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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - L469 YVK - 10 Jun 2023 (10 Jun 2023, 12:11 am)Andreos1 Do the majority of residents in those areas travel to and from Newcastle? RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Rob44 - 10 Jun 2023 Have to say " new housing estae" used to justify more buses to an area leave me scratching my head. In hazlerigg there are new developments to the east on the west of the village. Most houses have a double if not treble drive so you would expect them to have a car. I've seen absolutely zero increase in passengers at the bus stops closest to the developments..... and if you say worked at silverlink you hardley going to get the 44 to town then wait for a 309 to work when you can use the car you already have to drive up sandy lane then down the a19. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Storx - 10 Jun 2023 (10 Jun 2023, 12:04 am)L469 YVK Or.....an option to fully merge the 51 into the Coast Road network and shake off the 'Micky Mouse' route image See personally if I was going to do this I'd just scrap everything and start again, the routes now aren't ideal and are from yesteryear and change it to something like. 55 - Every 30 Minutes, Current Route 56 - Every 30 Minutes, Newcastle - South Gosforth - Four Lane Ends - Benton - Benton Rise - ASDA - Holystone - Shiremoor - Briardene - Whitley Bay --- 55/56 - Every 15 Minutes, Newcastle to Benton 57/57A - Whitley Bay to North Shields restored Cobalt Connect 80 - Every 30 Minutes, Newcastle - Selby Gardens - Wallsend Dene - Silverlink (The Silverlink) - Cobalt - New York - NT Hospital - Whitley Bay - Blyth via Links Road 80A - Every 30 Minutes, Newcastle - Selby Gardens - Wallsend Dene - Silverlink (The Silverlink) - Cobalt - New York - NT Hospital - Whitley Bay - Blyth via South Beach --- 80/80A - Every 15 Minutes, Express Newcastle to Silverlink / Cobalt / Whitley Bay / Blyth Coastal Loop 81 - Every 30 Minutes, Newcastle - Selby Gardens - Battle Hill - Silverlink (A1058) - Billy Mill - Lynn Road - NT Hospital - Morrisons - Marden - Cullercoats - Tynemouth 82 - Every 30 Minutes, Newcastle - Selby Gardens - Battle Hill - Silverlink (A1058) - Verne Road - Central Avenue - Landestown Terrace - Hawkeys Lane - North Shields - Tynemouth --- 81/82 - Every 15 Minutes, Express Newcastle to Battle Hill, Then serve all the coast - connect with each other in Tynemouth 'The Slow Ones' Loop 83 - Every 30 Minutes, Newcastle - Wiltshire Drive - High Farm - Battle Hill - Middle Engine Lane - Norham Road - Billy Mill - Queen Alexander Road - North Shields 84 - Every 30 Minutes, Newcastle - Battle Hill - High Farm - Hadrian Park - Middle Engine Lane - Norham Road - Meadowell - North Shields --- 83/84 - Every 15 Minutes, Newcastle - Middle Engine Lane - Cobalt South - Norham Road, connect with each other in North Shields Other Combined Corridors 57/57A/83, Every 15 Minutes Billy Mill to North Shields 80/80A/81/82 - Every 7.5 Minutes, Newcastle to Selby Gardens 81/82/83/84 - 8x buses, Newcastle to Battle Hill It connects communities together much better than what's there now and makes more sense with the 306 extension and also reduces the overkill of buses at the Northern side. I'd imagine it's actually a PVR reduction from it but haven't worked it. Tynemouth etc still has the same buses but they just go in opposite directions for example and most people arguably should be using the Metro anyway. I know there's a few areas with reductions ie. Lynn Road and the 306 from Billy Mill to Tynemouth but somewhere had to take the hit and sadly it was them but most of it has gained the 57/57A to compensate for it for people doing local journeys. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - ASX_Terranova - 12 Jun 2023 New Service 90: Newcastle, Team Valley, Portobello, Vigo Estate, Ayton, Lambton, The Galleries, Biddick, Fatfield, Barnwell, Penshaw, Shiney Row. Couple of Questions:
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 12 Jun 2023 (12 Jun 2023, 1:00 pm)ASX_Terranova New Service 90: It would be very tight. If you're going to have something on Success Road, I'd suggest some sort of one way loop myself. Shiney Row Shops (where the 4 and 78 stop) - Chester Road - Golf Course Road - Success Road - Herrington Burn - Shiney Row (where the X1 stops). RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 12 Jun 2023 Could it be extended as far as Easington Lane? RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - ASX_Terranova - 12 Jun 2023 (12 Jun 2023, 1:22 pm)Andreos1 It would be very tight. Ii've only got 2 minutes turnaround at Shiney Row and 8 minutes at Eldon Square, so timing is tight. Its a half-hourly service with a PVR of 5. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - ASX_Terranova - 18 Jun 2023 With stagecoach withdrawing the 12, would it be worth extending the 33 to Doxford Park. Maybe drop the houghton and washington sections of the 39A/B and extend the 33 instead. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Acky81 - 19 Jun 2023 (18 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm)ASX_Terranova With stagecoach withdrawing the 12, would it be worth extending the 33 to Doxford Park. Maybe drop the houghton and washington sections of the 39A/B and extend the 33 instead. 33 has been done a few times to Doxford and never worked Can’t drop the Washington and Houghton as I think nexus pays for them since these replaced the 37 and 55 routes Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Dan - 20 Jun 2023 (19 Jun 2023, 11:13 pm)Acky81 33 has been done a few times to Doxford and never worked The Houghton-le-Spring extension is commercially operated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - ASX_Terranova - 05 Jul 2023 Has there ever been a service that exists in which A to B gets busy and C-D get busy but the route needs to run A-B-C-D for operational convenience even though nobody would travel between B & C. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 05 Jul 2023 Pretty sure that was the whole idea of the X81 RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - L469 YVK - 05 Jul 2023 (05 Jul 2023, 5:30 pm)ASX_Terranova Has there ever been a service that exists in which A to B gets busy and C-D get busy but the route needs to run A-B-C-D for operational convenience even though nobody would travel between B & C. Well you could say the current Coaster 1 to an extent. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Rob44 - 06 Jul 2023 (05 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm)L469 YVK Well you could say the current Coaster 1 to an extent. a-b whitley to newcastle? c-d gateshead to metrocentre? B-C newcasatle to gateshead? RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - ian foster - 06 Jul 2023 (10 Jun 2023, 6:20 pm)Storx See personally if I was going to do this I'd just scrap everything and start again, the routes now aren't ideal and are from yesteryear and change it to something like.Why does everyone think there should be a link between Marden and Battle hill. Why not have X38 Whitley Bay to Newcastle via old 44 route non stop along the Coast Rd. from Norham Rd. and keep the 308 as it is. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Storx - 06 Jul 2023 (06 Jul 2023, 10:06 am)ian foster Why does everyone think there should be a link between Marden and Battle hill. Why not have X38 Whitley Bay to Newcastle via old 44 route non stop along the Coast Rd. from Norham Rd. and keep the 308 as it is. There's way too much transport between Blyth / Whitley Bay and Newcastle via Seaton Sluice. There's absolutely no need for 6 buses and 12 metro trains an hour between Whitley Bay and Newcastle. It doesn't need more along there, the 308 just isn't needed imo - it's just a legacy route from yesteryear before Cobalt was built. That was more about making the 306 actually useful (same again way too much transport between Tynemouth and Whitley Bay, 6 buses and 6 Metro's doing the same area give or take). That was about linking more areas and creating better links to the local area but creating a loop, ie. Marden to NT Hospital for example. The diagram below probably shows it better (Red: 80/80A, Blue: 81/82, Green: 83/84, Pink: 57/57A), (Thick Line: Every 15 Minutes, Thin Line: Every 30 Minutes). RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 06 Jul 2023 I cannot be the only one who wishes the 51/52/93/94 would be proper loops similar to the 53/54. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Storx - 06 Jul 2023 (05 Jul 2023, 5:30 pm)ASX_Terranova Has there ever been a service that exists in which A to B gets busy and C-D get busy but the route needs to run A-B-C-D for operational convenience even though nobody would travel between B & C. Can't imagine there's any bus service like that as it just doesn't make sense. There's plenty of services where people would do A - B, B - C, and C - D but no-one unless they're mentally insane would do A - D. The 10, 27, 56 (all GNE), 43 (Morpeth) and X18 (both Arriva) to pick some. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Iamtheone8483748 - 06 Jul 2023 (06 Jul 2023, 11:19 am)Unber43 I cannot be the only one who wishes the 51/52/93/94 would be proper loops similar to the 53/54. Are they not? RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Drifter60 - 06 Jul 2023 (06 Jul 2023, 11:27 am)Storx Can't imagine there's any bus service like that as it just doesn't make sense. There’s a few examples like the 1, whereby really the cross city link is often just the best way to operate it. Things like the 20 and 2/2A are two separate services just merged together, that’s not say cross city links aren’t used though. But I’m the 2/2A case if you wanted to go Silksworth to Royal Hospital you’d probably save time using the 33 or Stagecoach. And clearly the 20 is operational reasons as otherwise Durham and Langley Park is miles from the nearest GNE depot. The X21 is a bit like that also, despite what is sometimes spoke about on this forum is there many people really going from Bishop Auckland to Newcastle?! It exists a through route for two reasons, 1) there’s not depot in Durham so makes operational sense to tack it on the end of something else 2) Bonus, of the cross Durham links to the Arnison Centre & Hospital. The 50 is another route which sorts of two stretches Washington to South Shields and then Washington to Durham. But if someone did want to go Durham to South Shields the 50 would probably the best way, but I don’t think it’s a common travel link? And The 4 is the closest to what you say, there wouldn’t be much reason of anyone using it from Houghton to Washington point to point as the X1 does it quicker. If you were going Houghton to Heworth, you’d be best going X1 to Galleries then the 4, that what I used to do. |