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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 07 Jan 2022
Service 28/28A from Middlesbrough to Lingdale is having a revised route and timetable from 30th January according to the North Yorkshire County Council website. Quick check of VOSA and can't see any other changes from the 30th on there atm.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 08 Jan 2022
(07 Jan 2022, 12:00 am)peter Service 28/28A from Middlesbrough to Lingdale is having a revised route and timetable from 30th January according to the North Yorkshire County Council website. Quick check of VOSA and can't see any other changes from the 30th on there atm.
Closure of Guisborough Road at Swans Corner means no buses to Nunthorpe Station.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 09 Jan 2022
Are there any plans for the 553 to change operators? Makes sense at the Regent Centre end to be Arriva, but for Battle Hill/Wallsend GNE would be the best. GCT or Phoenix would probably get it next if Arriva don't keep it. When is the contract up for renewal for the 47 and 553?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 09 Jan 2022
(09 Jan 2022, 12:58 pm)OrangeArrow49 Are there any plans for the 553 to change operators? Makes sense at the Regent Centre end to be Arriva, but for Battle Hill/Wallsend GNE would be the best. GCT or Phoenix would probably get it next if Arriva don't keep it. When is the contract up for renewal for the 47 and 553?
According to VOSA they're not supported by subsidy. I don't know if the services are contracted by the NHS or Arriva receive some support for them, if that's the case they won't be changing hands. The fact Arriva have operated the 553 since 2014 doesn't suggest it's going to change any time soon. But they're not a Nexus contract, otherwise someone else other than Arriva would probably be operating them by now.
There are some Nexus supported journeys on the 553 but these are now operated by GCT (and are earmarked for withdrawal according to recent consultation).
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - minibus1474 - 10 Jan 2022
553 was (possibly still is) 2 separate contracts.
Monday to Friday every 30 minutes (Regent Centre - Freeman Hospital) contracted by NHS
Monday to Saturday every 60 minutes (Freeman Hospital - Battle Hill) contracted by Nexus
Arriva worked with both contractors to Run the service across Freeman Hospital.
I believe Arriva decided to run the Battle Hill - Freeman Hospital section commercially last year, so not to split service up, as i'm led to believe that they had lost Nexus contract to GCT.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - V514DFT - 11 Jan 2022
Wasnt the 553 merged with the 3?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 21 Jan 2022
The 56 will be returning to a half hourly service across the full route from the 30th January.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - busmanT - 22 Jan 2022
(21 Jan 2022, 4:52 pm)peter The 56 will be returning to a half hourly service across the full route from the 30th January.I can't see any mention of this on the Go North East website - all alterations are shown as until further notice.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 22 Jan 2022
(22 Jan 2022, 9:13 am)busmanT I can't see any mention of this on the Go North East website - all alterations are shown as until further notice.
I'd hope not it's an Arriva service
- https://api.arrivabus.co.uk/routes/services/DC_DM_56-DC_DM_56A/220130-220420/56-56A-Durham-to-Bishop-Auckland-from-30-Jan-2022.pdfIronically though the GNE 56 is going back to normal service on the same day https://www.nexus.org.uk/bus/timetables?tid=All&title=56
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - busmanT - 22 Jan 2022
(22 Jan 2022, 9:34 am)Storx I'd hope not it's an Arriva serviceI still can't see any mention on the Go North East website of this going back to normal, I would have expected GNE to tell its passengers rather than Nexus
Ironically though the GNE 56 is going back to normal service on the same day https://www.nexus.org.uk/bus/timetables?tid=All&title=56
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Dan - 22 Jan 2022
(22 Jan 2022, 10:12 am)busmanT I still can't see any mention on the Go North East website of this going back to normal, I would have expected GNE to tell its passengers rather than Nexus
Go North East hasn't told its passengers because they aren't reverting back to normal timetables from this date.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 22 Jan 2022
(22 Jan 2022, 9:13 am)busmanT I can't see any mention of this on the Go North East website - all alterations are shown as until further notice.
Just for clarification - this is the Arriva thread and the service in question is the 56 from Durham to Bishop Auckland. The 56, alongside the 6, 7 and 64 were temporarily reduced from 31st October 2021 due to driver shortages. The 56 is now returning to it's normal timetable where one journey per hour was running between Bishop Auckland and Coundon only which is now re-extended through to Durham. No word yet on when the 6, 7 and 64 will revert, but on VOSA the 'End Date' for these changes is 31st March 2022, so perhaps that's the ideal.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Omega54 - 22 Jan 2022
(22 Jan 2022, 10:16 am)Dan Go North East hasn't told its passengers because they aren't reverting back to normal timetables from this date.Well, I wonder if it will be before March.
Also, I hope from the past few weeks that GNE can get some extra capacity on some routes, e.g 39/20/X1/60 (granted not much more can be done)/X45/46.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - omnicity4659 - 07 Feb 2022
Route 308 will be diverted southbound between Blyth and South Beach from the 14th, presumably via the 309 route.
Northbound journeys are unaffected with passengers for Newcastle able to travel to Blyth and back out on a diverted service.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 11 Feb 2022
PB0002032/266
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 57 (57, 57A) Ashington North Shields
PB0002032/340
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 53 (53) Cramlington North Shields
PB0002032/341
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD X9 (X9) Blyth Newcastle
PB0002032/337
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD X10 (X10, X11) Blyth Newcastle
PB0002032/458
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 51 (51A, 51) Newcastle Whitley Bay
PB0002032/459
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 52 (52) Ashington Newcastle
PB0002032/450
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 308 (308, 306) Blyth Newcastle
PB0002032/340
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 53 (53) Cramlington North Shields
PB0002032/457
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 54 (54) Whitley Bay Newcastle
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Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD X7 (X7) Blyth Newcastle
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Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD X8 (X8) Blyth Newcastle
PB0002032/266
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 57 (57, 57A) Ashington North Shields
PB0002032/153
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 55 (55) Newcastle Forest Hall
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Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 46 (46, 46A) Newcastle Featherstone Grove
Effective date is 27 Mar 2022
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 11 Feb 2022
(11 Feb 2022, 4:09 pm)Michael PB0002032/152
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 46 (46, 46A) Newcastle Featherstone Grove
Effective date is 27 Mar 2022
Wonder if the 46A might be the replacement for the 33 down Hollywood Avenue since there's heavy rumours that the Q3 is going via Osbourne Road now. Whatever it is, it doesn't exist now. Be a good improvement for them if so with a faster service.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - L469 YVK - 12 Feb 2022
I wonder what the above changes will present? Would the 43/44/45 not be better going to Single Decks and going to a 6/6/7 frequency running every 20 mins each (like the 309/310/311 do)? Would give a more even service between the 43/45 from Lockey Park .
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 12 Feb 2022
(12 Feb 2022, 5:08 pm)L469 YVK I wonder what the above changes will present? Would the 43/44/45 not be better going to Single Decks and going to a 6/6/7 frequency running every 20 mins each (like the 309/310/311 do)? Would give a more even service between the 43/45 from Lockey Park .
I'm not sure they need more services along there. 20 mins seems a bit overkill for both Dinnington bits and I don't believe it would reduce the PVR, potentially increase it though because of the interworking patterns.
44/45 PVR 5 with 30 min run time each all with a 7 minute layover.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - L469 YVK - 12 Feb 2022
(12 Feb 2022, 7:12 pm)Storx I'm not sure they need more services along there. 20 mins seems a bit overkill for both Dinnington bits and I don't believe it would reduce the PVR, potentially increase it though because of the interworking patterns.It would increase PVR but would give more even headway between the 43 & 45 in Wideopen, 13/7 as opposed to an oddball 30 minute service running amongst a 15 minute frequency provided by the 43.
44/45 PVR 5 with 30 min run time each all with a 7 minute layover.
So frequency would be
Dinnington 44/45 - Every 7-13 mins
Wideopen Travellers Rest 43/45 - Every 7-13 mins
North Gosforth & Gosforth Park 43/44/45 - Every 6-7 mins
Although I suppose my argument is invalid to some extent given that GNE went the opposite way on the Rowlands Gill corridor by making the 47/47A an oddball amongst the X45/X46.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 13 Feb 2022
(12 Feb 2022, 9:40 pm)L469 YVK It would increase PVR but would give more even headway between the 43 & 45 in Wideopen, 13/7 as opposed to an oddball 30 minute service running amongst a 15 minute frequency provided by the 43.
So frequency would be
Dinnington 44/45 - Every 7-13 mins
Wideopen Travellers Rest 43/45 - Every 7-13 mins
North Gosforth & Gosforth Park 43/44/45 - Every 6-7 mins
Although I suppose my argument is invalid to some extent given that GNE went the opposite way on the Rowlands Gill corridor by making the 47/47A an oddball amongst the X45/X46.
Aye I see what you mean but if I'm right the timings should be every 7.5, 7.5, 15, 7.5, 7.5, 15... anyway through Wideopen so it's not really much different to a 7 / 13 it's easier to understand as it is imo.