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RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - S813 FVK - 02 Jan 2016

We should make Jimmi the NEB Non-DDA bus reporter Tongue

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Jimmi - 02 Jan 2016

(02 Jan 2016, 3:44 pm)S813 FVK We should make Jimmi the NEB Non-DDA bus reporter
I'm already the 'most annoying' poster. Besides, making me the NEB Non-DDA bus reporter would possibly cause repercussions for your job of 'destination inspector'

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - S813 FVK - 02 Jan 2016

(02 Jan 2016, 3:56 pm)Jimmi I'm already the 'most annoying' poster. Besides, making me the NEB Non-DDA bus reporter would possibly cause repercussions for your job of 'destination inspector'

That job has been stolen by the cling on corner crew Tongue

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Dan - 02 Jan 2016

(02 Jan 2016, 4:50 pm)S813 FVK That job has been stolen by the cling on corner crew Tongue

Aye, that's reet enough.. Me head's battered! Haha!

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Davie - 02 Jan 2016

(02 Jan 2016, 4:50 pm)S813 FVK That job has been stolen by the cling on corner crew 
Sorry, we couldn't help stealing it.
(02 Jan 2016, 4:51 pm)Dan Aye, that's reet enough.. Me head's battered! Haha!
Just trying to keep you and Citaro busy.

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Dan - 02 Jan 2016

(02 Jan 2016, 4:53 pm)Davie Just trying to keep you and Citaro busy.

Keep the depot busy - not us! Only takes us a matter of seconds to fire the e-mail off..!  Wink

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - tyresmoke - 02 Jan 2016

This might be a good time to plug the photos I've just uploaded...

Un-modified interior of a Wright Cadet - as modelled by 1915 which I took to Thorntons
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Arriva North East - DAF SB120 Wright Cadet Interior by Scott Cooper, on Flickr

Modified interior of a Wright Cadet - as modelled by 1920 that I returned from Thorntons
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Arriva North East - DAF SB120 Wright Cadet Interior by Scott Cooper, on Flickr

The modifications you can see comparing the two pictures are:
- Tip-down seat removed on the nearside
- Wheelchair backrest moved forward using a frame
- Extra hand-rails across the windows on nearside, with upright rail removed

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - omnicity4659 - 03 Jan 2016

No doubt we'll start to see the arguments from spotters about the PSVAR/DDA regulations.

In my opinion, these regulations are the way forward to making all buses accessible for pushchairs, wheelchairs and the elderly. If the entrance to the bus is too tight, it's a struggle to get on and there will be more reasons.

I'd hate to have seen what buses would be like without these regulations to be honest.

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - S813 FVK - 03 Jan 2016

(03 Jan 2016, 11:15 am)GX03 SVC No doubt we'll start to see the arguments from spotters about the PSVAR/DDA regulations.

In my opinion, these regulations are the way forward to making all buses accessible for pushchairs, wheelchairs and the elderly. If the entrance to the bus is too tight, it's a struggle to get on and there will be more reasons.

I'd hate to have seen what buses would be like without these regulations to be honest.

You have done prior to the regulations coming into force?

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - omnicity4659 - 03 Jan 2016

(03 Jan 2016, 11:18 am)S813 FVK You have done prior to the regulations coming into force?

Bitey as usual, Robert?

Never tried putting a pram or wheelchair onto a step-entrance vehicle.......?

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - S813 FVK - 03 Jan 2016

(03 Jan 2016, 11:25 am)GX03 SVC Bitey as usual, Robert?

Never tried putting a pram or wheelchair onto a step-entrance vehicle.......?

Jumping to conclusions, Tommy? I wasn't being 'bitey' at all!

I was simply questioning the last part of your post. The DDA regulations have wiped out what you would have hated to see (which you would have seen for all years prior) so I didn't understand what you meant by it...

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - BusLoverMum - 03 Jan 2016

(03 Jan 2016, 11:15 am)GX03 SVC No doubt we'll start to see the arguments from spotters about the PSVAR/DDA regulations.

In my opinion, these regulations are the way forward to making all buses accessible for pushchairs, wheelchairs and the elderly. If the entrance to the bus is too tight, it's a struggle to get on and there will be more reasons.

I'd hate to have seen what buses would be like without these regulations to be honest.

I did spot a blog post ranting on about how all the garishly coloured poles spoil the view for the 97% of people who aren't disabled and the seating arrangement is so inconvenient for the majority, all because of that 3%. It was an old post, so I made do with rolling my eyes all the way out of the car at the stupidity, rather than biting. Dodgy I might not be in a wheelchair, but I quite like having something to hold onto so I don't fall over.

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Blobby40 - 03 Jan 2016

i have emailed north yorkshire ipt compliance team on dda compliant buses in northallerton, as there was a lot of buses non dda new years eve , where do i stand if a non dda compliant bus turns up do i bill them for taking a taxi instead ? i said i would take photos if they need evidence !! i love annoying ipt at county hall as they removed my son off his school bus when i told them the school signs were incorrect which i had photos of , they say they have no money but my son goes by taxi now as the law says with having special needs they have to transport him

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Andreos1 - 03 Jan 2016

(01 Jan 2016, 9:17 pm)Adrian DVSA should be policing it through spot checks. Not sure whether this will also be covered as part of an MOT going forward though?

It's always going to be a case that people will report it too, so I can't see any operators running the risk.
I imagine there will be a lot of tale telling - whether it is with foundation or not.

Whether it be from disgruntled employees, rival drivers or rival operators.

I haven't seen any promotional or industry literature, issued by the relevant bodies, so I can't confirm if there has been a number set up to report breaches.

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Greg in Weardale - 04 Jan 2016

If a single deck bus, not coach, with more than 22 seats runs on a registered public bus service (ie not restricted to kids or factory workers) it now has to be DDA compliant. Whether VOSA roadside checks will enforce correct interpretation of rules regarding destinations etc I don't know, although they do seem to look for any excuse to issue spot fines. I assume vehicles will have to have all that is required by DDA when going for annual PCV tests. For school runs different local authorities have differing requirements. I run 30 year old Bedfords on school runs (not in Northeast) and on a once a week market day council subsidised service, and can use the coaches on that til 2020.

PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - MrPottski - 05 Jan 2016

I'm just wondering if Scarlet Band and Hodgsons have their buses registered as coaches to get round the loophole?

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Andreos1 - 11 Jan 2016

5309 appears to have a blackout on its blinds. Nothing on show, despite being in service.

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Davie - 13 Jan 2016

Is this https://flic.kr/p/C8gBsr DDA Compliant?

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - omnicity4659 - 13 Jan 2016

(13 Jan 2016, 12:45 am)Davie Is this https://flic.kr/p/C8gBsr DDA Compliant?

Up until the 20th. Should really be replaced now if it isn't PSVAR compliant.

RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Dan - 13 Jan 2016

(13 Jan 2016, 12:52 am)GX03 SVC Up until the 20th. Should really be replaced now if it isn't PSVAR compliant.

I'm not sure where Scott got the 20 day thing from? I've read over the legislation a number of times and have seen no mention of it.

If it doesn't comply with PSVAR / DDA regulations, I'd expect it would have been withdrawn now. Excluding the few examples with Arriva North East, I've seen no other photos of non-DDA compliant single decks operating in service after 1 January 2016 (excluding any vehicles with destination issues).