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RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - mb134 - 15 Mar 2016
(13 Mar 2016, 8:20 pm)NK53 TKT Yes, 1799, 1800 and 1775 and 1776
1776 isn't a bus, so I'm unsure how that could have a broken rear display...
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - NK53 TKT - 15 Mar 2016
(15 Mar 2016, 4:34 pm)mb134 1776 isn't a bus, so I'm unsure how that could have a broken rear display...
My bad
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Davie - 15 Mar 2016
(15 Mar 2016, 5:11 pm)NK53 TKT My badDid you not mean 1774?
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - NK53 TKT - 15 Mar 2016
(15 Mar 2016, 5:12 pm)Davie Did you not mean 1774?
Yes
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - NK53 TKT - 18 Mar 2016
2601 has no working side and rear destination displays
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Dan - 24 Mar 2016
Stagecoach 27510 front/rear displays intermittently flashing on/off.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Jimmi - 24 Mar 2016
(24 Mar 2016, 11:03 am)Dan Stagecoach 27510 front/rear displays intermittently flashing on/off.I noticed that yesterday, seemed to spend most of its time off, first two times I saw it the screens were blank (the first time I saw it was for a good 30 seconds), but the few seconds I saw it for the third time it was showing the display as normal.
It certainly confused me, especially as it decided to come up Newgate Street to reach the 100 stop on Blackett Street.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - James101 - 25 Mar 2016
One for the destination experts:
What do we think of trentbarton? Their destinations are usually very clear, but they rarely comply to PSVAR guidance.
There's barely any route numbers to speak of. The display will often switch between the destination and the route brand; sometimes including descriptions such as on the red arrow 'Derby FAST'.
Then there's the issue of colour. On the Spondon Flyer, the two variations of the route are denoted by a green or blue circle where a number would usually be. On occasion where a route has a number, such as 'the two' the number is spelled rather than displayed as a digit.
All in all, it would be difficult to argue they are not being clear with their equipment. AlthoThe unconventional, I would argue they really make the most of their equipment. Do their efforts, however, make it (very) technically illegal?
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - citaro5284 - 25 Mar 2016
Under DDA regs, the route number and terminal point should always by shown on the front. If the service is registered with the TC and it has a route number, then under the rules, it must be shown at all times. If they just register the service as Rainbow (even thou their buses are not painted in rainbow colours
) for example, then this needs to be shown at all times instead of the route number.There is nothing in the regs about colour, so whilst some colours do not look good to see, they are fine with that.
As you say, its difficult to argue a case, however if the things I have mentioned above are not constantly shown, they are breaking the PSVAR rules.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Andreos1 - 25 Mar 2016
(25 Mar 2016, 1:49 am)James101 One for the destination experts:
What do we think of trentbarton? Their destinations are usually very clear, but they rarely comply to PSVAR guidance.
There's barely any route numbers to speak of. The display will often switch between the destination and the route brand; sometimes including descriptions such as on the red arrow 'Derby FAST'.
Then there's the issue of colour. On the Spondon Flyer, the two variations of the route are denoted by a green or blue circle where a number would usually be. On occasion where a route has a number, such as 'the two' the number is spelled rather than displayed as a digit.
All in all, it would be difficult to argue they are not being clear with their equipment. AlthoThe unconventional, I would argue they really make the most of their equipment. Do their efforts, however, make it (very) technically illegal?
(25 Mar 2016, 7:44 am)citaro5284 Under DDA regs, the route number and terminal point should always by shown on the front. If the service is registered with the TC and it has a route number, then under the rules, it must be shown at all times. If they just register the service as Rainbow (even thou their buses are not painted in rainbow colours
There is nothing in the regs about colour, so whilst some colours do not look good to see, they are fine with that.
As you say, its difficult to argue a case, however if the things I have mentioned above are not constantly shown, they are breaking the PSVAR rules.
Megabus are another example.
Many a time I see their vehicles on the motorway, only displaying the destination.
No service number at all.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Dan - 25 Mar 2016
(25 Mar 2016, 8:27 am)Andreos1 Megabus are another example.
Many a time I see their vehicles on the motorway, only displaying the destination.
No service number at all.
Would PSVAR apply to Megabus, given that these aren't registered bus services?
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Kuyoyo - 25 Mar 2016
(25 Mar 2016, 8:27 am)Andreos1 Megabus are another example.
Many a time I see their vehicles on the motorway, only displaying the destination.
No service number at all.
Megabus services in England and Wales are not registered with the Traffic Commissioners so therefore do not need to comply with these regulations.
Add to the fact they don't apply to Coaches for another 4 years anyway...
PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Jimmi - 25 Mar 2016
Not really looked at Trent Barton's screens, but one I do disagree with is the new Transdev Yorkshire Coastliner displays which flick between the service number and destination and then changes to just "Coastliner" how are you supposed to tell where the service is heading if "Coastliner" is on the screen? Almost everytime one went past me when I was taking photographs in York last Saturday it would be showing "Coastliner."
Here is the screen showing Coastliner: https://flic.kr/p/FtJgfs
The same applies to the "Tadfaster" service which I saw showing "York fast" and then "Tadfaster."
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Andreos1 - 25 Mar 2016
(25 Mar 2016, 8:58 am)Kuyoyo Megabus services in England and Wales are not registered with the Traffic Commissioners so therefore do not need to comply with these regulations.
Add to the fact they don't apply to Coaches for another 4 years anyway...
I know they aren't and I know they don't.
The point was made, drawing comparison with the examples given in the quoted posts.
PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - MrPottski - 25 Mar 2016
In my opinion, it is good that companies are trying something different, however it's a shame they fall foul of the new regs. I personally think there should be an industry standard to prevent this from happening, so all operators have to have them exactly the same. I think Transdevs Mobitec screens with upward scrolling via points are excellent, and obviously TfL's are second to none.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Davie - 07 Apr 2016
5363's front blind needs fixed.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Dan - 07 Apr 2016
(07 Apr 2016, 1:48 pm)Davie 5363's front blind needs fixed.
Could you supply a bit more information and/or photographs?
It was fine on 28th Feb, so I just need something to go to the depot with.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Davie - 07 Apr 2016
(07 Apr 2016, 2:40 pm)Dan Could you supply a bit more information and/or photographs?
It was fine on 28th Feb, so I just need something to go to the depot with.
I have a photograph of it, I'll upload it at the earliest opportunity.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Dan - 08 Apr 2016
(07 Apr 2016, 2:40 pm)Dan Could you supply a bit more information and/or photographs?
It was fine on 28th Feb, so I just need something to go to the depot with.
5363 checked five mins ago - no fault found.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Andreos1 - 11 Apr 2016
There is a dodgy rear blind on whatever was on the 237 last night.
It seemed to switch on/off every so often.