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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 20 Jun 2018 (19 Jun 2018, 9:46 pm)callum2015 Extending the current 128 service might be an option - extending from its current terminus of Helmsley along the A170 Into Thirsk,then either run direct via A19/Via Northallerton or Via Stokesley into Middlesbrough. Run from Scarborough depot with maybe 1 or 2 buses outstationed at Peterlee to allow earlier journeys from Middlesbrough I'm not sure if buses are allowed on Sutton Bank. If they are, it would be a heck of a ride! There is a diversionary route for caravans, but if the bus followed that, it would be half-way back to York. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Jimmi - 20 Jun 2018 (20 Jun 2018, 7:09 am)Andreos1 I'm not sure if buses are allowed on Sutton Bank. If they are, it would be a heck of a ride! Think Arriva currently have a Moorsbus working that goes down Sutton Bank but not up it. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 20 Jun 2018 (20 Jun 2018, 7:50 am)Jimmi Think Arriva currently have a Moorsbus working that goes down Sutton Bank but not up it. https://bustimes.org/services/m4-helmsley-thirsk Yeah, it doesnt appear to have a return journey up the bank. Tried to work out what it did on arriving in Thirsk, but nothing obvious jumps out. That's probably a discussion for another thread RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Jimmi - 20 Jun 2018 (20 Jun 2018, 8:44 am)Andreos1 https://bustimes.org/services/m4-helmsley-thirsk Heads back to Helmsley (and onto Rievaulx Abbey) as Moorsbus service M5 via Coxwold, Byland Abbey and Ampleforth: https://bustimes.org/services/m5-thirsk-helmsley-2 RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 20 Jun 2018 (20 Jun 2018, 11:17 am)Jimmi Heads back to Helmsley (and onto Rievaulx Abbey) as Moorsbus service M5 via Coxwold, Byland Abbey and Ampleforth: https://bustimes.org/services/m5-thirsk-helmsley-2 So back up, but without a load? Might try and catch a look to see how it does next time I'm over that way. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Jimmi - 20 Jun 2018 (20 Jun 2018, 11:28 am)Andreos1 So back up, but without a load?Only goes down Sutton Bank on that one afternoon M4 trip that extends beyond Sutton Bank Visitors Centre to Thirsk. The return journey is a M5 which doesn't go near Sutton Bank. Would be interesting to see how a Streetlite would fare getting up there but we'll just have to use our imaginations on that one. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - BusLoverMum - 20 Jun 2018 (20 Jun 2018, 11:49 am)Jimmi Only goes down Sutton Bank on that one afternoon M4 trip that extends beyond Sutton Bank Visitors Centre to Thirsk. The return journey is a M5 which doesn't go near Sutton Bank.No worse than any other bus, if Silent bank is anything to go by. Only the better E400s and pulsars could do that any faster. I'd imagine a pristine solo SR would be fine but the solos in the Belmont fleet are surprisingly bad. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 20 Jun 2018 (20 Jun 2018, 11:49 am)Jimmi Only goes down Sutton Bank on that one afternoon M4 trip that extends beyond Sutton Bank Visitors Centre to Thirsk. The return journey is a M5 which doesn't go near Sutton Bank. Misread your initial reply. I think the fact it goes back the long way says it all. The turning as you go up would surely be too tight, regardless of the incline. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - S830OFT - 20 Jun 2018 X84: This service is extended from Hexham to Newbrough. X85: This service is extended to Haltwhistle via A69, it will no longer serve Newbrough. This service will allow connections to services 185, 681. X83: Newcastle - Newcastle Business Park - Lemington - Throckley - Heddon On The Wall - Corbridge - Hexham - Acomb - Wall - Bellingham. New service that will combine the 680 to a express service direct to Newcastle. This service will allow new direct links without change. The service will operate hourly between Newcastle and Hexham and every 2 hours to Bellingham. 74A: Hexham - Acomb - Colwell - A68 - West Woodburn - Otterburn - Elsdon - Ponteland - Cowgate - Newcastle. New service which will serve Rural communities and keep them connected with Hexham and Newcastle. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - RobinHood - 20 Jun 2018 (19 Jun 2018, 6:33 pm)Andreos1 I think the Whitby/Scarborough - Teesside corridor is pretty much boxed off now the X4 and X93 appear sorted. I have to admit, when the EYMS announcement was made, I thought competition on the X93 would be first choice, however on reflection I think GNE bosses may have a good think about it before committing (if it was on the agenda to begin with). My thoughts behind this are presumably the kind of points that would be discussed;
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 21 Jun 2018 (20 Jun 2018, 9:37 pm)RobinHood I have to admit, when the EYMS announcement was made, I thought competition on the X93 would be first choice, however on reflection I think GNE bosses may have a good think about it before committing (if it was on the agenda to begin with). My thoughts behind this are presumably the kind of points that would be discussed; Tend to agree with what you have said in this post. Of course we know what the nature of both the X4 and X93 routes and I can't see much scope at all for it to grow any further. I can't see demand for public transport increasing beyond what is seen now on those routes. They must have plateaued out by now - even with that increase between Whitby and Scarborough. There's been many a time I have used the X4 to/from Whitby. Once you get beyond Staithes on a southbound run, it can get through to the outskirts of Whitby stopping only a handful of times. Ditto the return from Whitby, where once locals are dropped off at the top of the hill, it tends to be the same few stops served. The moors-road the X93 uses isn't exactly the highway through a bustling metropolis either. The corridoor up to Guisbrough is boxed off and would leave little scope for any additional stopping service or limited stop. Go back those few years you mention and I think the opportunity was there to nip in and offer up some competition. Pretty sure that time has been and gone. For now anyway. Too much to invest with no guarantee of a return. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Jimmi - 21 Jun 2018 (21 Jun 2018, 10:37 am)Andreos1 Tend to agree with what you have said in this post. Middlesbrough - Whitby section of the X93 seems to be busiest on a morning towards Scarborough and back to Middlesbrough in the evening from my observations at least, the busiest section of the X93 seems to be the Whitby - Scarborough stretch and I imagine the fact that EYMS have recently almost completely pulled out of Cloughton and Burniston will only further put Arriva in a better position. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Andreos1 - 21 Jun 2018 (21 Jun 2018, 12:26 pm)Jimmi Middlesbrough - Whitby section of the X93 seems to be busiest on a morning towards Scarborough and back to Middlesbrough in the evening from my observations at least, the busiest section of the X93 seems to be the Whitby - Scarborough stretch and I imagine the fact that EYMS have recently almost completely pulled out of Cloughton and Burniston will only further put Arriva in a better position. That 20min frequency being introduced won't make it easy for anyone to muscle in either. Never mind the other section of the route, I think they have that northern tip of Scarborough sewn up. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - JM03 - 30 Jun 2018 V7 Kibblesworth - Beamish - Stanley - Anfield Plain - Consett V8 Chopwell - Blackhall Mill - Hamsterly Hill - Burnopfield - Tanfield - Tantobie - Tanfield Lea - Stanley Both once hourly each direction RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - L469 YVK - 27 Jul 2018 Evening service suggestion for 57/309/310 to streamline frequency on Coast Road and increase frequency up to every 15 mins between Newcastle Haymarket and Battle Hill as well as improving competition with Arriva. The total combined PVR of the 57/58/309/310 would remain at 12 vehicles. 57: Wardley to Newcastle only and interworking with 58 using Citylink Versas. 57A: Newcastle Haymarket to Hadrian Park via High Farm using CC B9s departing Newcastle @ xx:05 and xx:35. 309: Retimed to operate 5 minutes later. 310: Retimed to operate 5 minutes later. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - JM03 - 27 Jul 2018 (27 Jul 2018, 11:54 am)L469 YVK Evening service suggestion for 57/309/310 to streamline frequency on Coast Road and increase frequency up to every 15 mins between Newcastle Haymarket and Battle Hill as well as improving competition with Arriva. The total combined PVR of the 57/58/309/310 would remain at 12 vehicles.I'd also like to add half hourly services on 309. Could operate coaster hybrids but don't know whats more feasible for GNE. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - L469 YVK - 01 Aug 2018 Given the success of the Q3, here's one for the 58 to compete the the 43/44/45 whilst adding additional GNE buses on the Great North Road corridor - Extended beyond Newcastle every 12 minutes to Cramlington via Regent Centre, Wideopen, Dudley and Southfield Green. Evening buses would run every 30 minutes and Sunday daytime buses would run every 15 minutes. - Buses towards Cramlington would operate via John Dobson St and Haymarket. Buses towards Heworth would operate via Eldon Square and Pilgrim Street before continuining via normal route. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - WestDurhamSwift - 04 Aug 2018 Q4 Wallsend to Metrocentre Following Q3 Route to St Peters Basin then operating via Bolam Way towards Byker Metro & Morrisons Shields Road, Continuing Down Byker Bank and refollowing current Q3 route until Haymarket/Eldon Square, Serving Central Station none stop to Metrocentre. Hopefully pick up people from the East End of Newcastle who want to go to the Metrocentre, rather than using other Stagecoach services and having to change. You could argue the 11 already does that, however from what I've seen in other comments it takes a while to get there. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Jamie M - 04 Aug 2018 (04 Aug 2018, 9:03 pm)Arcticrossy92 Q4Dunno. To get a Q3 then hop straight onto a 10 or 6 seems easy enough. Not sure it needs to be made anymore direct than that. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - WestDurhamSwift - 05 Aug 2018 (04 Aug 2018, 10:28 pm)Jamie M Dunno. To get a Q3 then hop straight onto a 10 or 6 seems easy enough. Not sure it needs to be made anymore direct than that. Yeah a do see your point, I always think a direct link is better and there isn't any from the East end of Newcastle. I'm sure years ago Stagecoach ran a service from Walker direct to Ikea, with a brander Mercedes Minibus. |