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Nexus secured service consultations - May 2023 - Aaron21 - 15 Feb 2023
Another 3 consultation have appeared on the nexus website. These are the following
520/521
594
All Taxi buses
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Dans_bus_photos - 15 Feb 2023
(15 Feb 2023, 7:01 pm)Aaron21 Another 3 consultation have appeared on the nexus website. These are the following
520/521
594
All Taxi buses
Looks like they are planning to withdraw the 82A and 135/136 from May too
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Acky81 - 15 Feb 2023
(15 Feb 2023, 7:24 pm)Dans_bus_photos Looks like they are planning to withdraw the 82A and 135/136 from May tooWhereabouts
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Aaron21 - 15 Feb 2023
Odd why they wanna cut the 82 between Gateshead & QE. Gne getting scared there losing passengers along Wrekenton to Gateshead like. However they wanna extend it to Waterview Park
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Dans_bus_photos - 15 Feb 2023
(15 Feb 2023, 7:42 pm)Acky81 Whereabouts
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/item/planned-cancellation-services-135-and-136
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/item/planned-cancellation-service-82a
Also cancelling the 79A:
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/item/planned-changes-service-79-and-cancellation-service-79a
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Unber43 - 15 Feb 2023
(15 Feb 2023, 7:57 pm)Aaron21 Odd why they wanna cut the 82 between Gateshead & QE. Gne getting scared there losing passengers along Wrekenton to Gateshead like. However they wanna extend it to Waterview ParkI've only been on it a couple of times but a lot of people get on Gateshead. Its probs the second most busiest stop at Washington
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - V514DFT - 15 Feb 2023
Ahhhhh so 14th May wasnt a load of bollocks then
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Thomas12 - 15 Feb 2023
All of the changes make sense to me, apart from the 82 - that is a bizarre move.
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Storx - 15 Feb 2023
I don't see the point in these, they've blatantly already decided what's happening as the tenders have been out for a week...
Also the 82 is to keep the PVR at 2.
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Thomas12 - 15 Feb 2023
(15 Feb 2023, 10:18 pm)Storx I don't see the point in these, they've blatantly already decided what's happening as the tenders have been out for a week...
Also the 82 is to keep the PVR at 2.
I don’t understand that - the PVR would be 2 if they kept as is?
May 2023 timetable changes - Jimmi - 15 Feb 2023
The changes summarised:
8: route revised to operate an anticlockwise loop round the Docks instead of clockwise to align with the daytime 38 route.
79/79A: withdraw the 0822 and 1822 trips on service 79 and cancel service 79A.
81/83/84/85: retime the trips on services 81, 83, 84, 85 by 15 minutes and cancel last trips on services 83 and 84 (last 81 trips between Washington Galleries and Sunderland cancelled on Sundays, partially replaced with a journey on service 83)
82: terminate at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital no longer serving Gateshead and instead extending between Barmston Court to additionally serve Teal Farm and terminate at Waterview Park.
82A: cancelled
135/136: cancelled
168: withdraw the 0705, 0727, 0805, 0827, 1705, 1727, 1805 and 1827 trips
516: revise the route of service 516 when departing South Shields Interchange towards South Tyneside Hospital. This would see the service no longer serving Coronation Street (ASDA), Station Road and Crossgate, instead the routing would be revised to serve Fowler Street and Winchester Street. Frequency increased to run every 60 mins, 90-minute gap would be introduced between 1230 -1400 to maintain punctuality and reliability of the service. Monday – Friday 0746 and 0856 trips from South Tyneside Hospital towards South Shields will be cancelled.
520/521: cancellation
594: morning journey revised to depart 9 minutes earlier from Roker (now 0730 instead of 0739)
Taxi Bus - TB1, TB14, TB22, TB23, TB29, TB90, TB92 and TB933: cancel all secured TaxiBus services after 13th May 2023.
Link to all the surveys: https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation?page=0
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Storx - 15 Feb 2023
(15 Feb 2023, 10:34 pm)Thomas12 I don’t understand that - the PVR would be 2 if they kept as is?
Seems like they want to serve Teal Farm and Waterview Park all day like the 83. Not sure why mind - maybe the 8 is getting pulled from heading down possibly?
I don't get why it goes beyond Birtley personally, there's the 28 doing most of it and it's not like everywhere else in the North East has direct buses to the QE. Waste of tax payer funds imo.
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Drifter60 - 16 Feb 2023
79A changes will leave an already under served South Hetton during the evening, even more so. The 79A only does two trips at the moment but will mean a big gap in buses unless DCC will fund something? Currently the last GNE X1 to Peterlee is at 20:11 and then there’s one more trip over three hours later, at 23:31. In the other direction, the last GNE bus is the 19:51 X1 to Newcastle.
Is it DCC that have contract changes in March?
I’m surprised it’s even worth boring with a consultation on changing times of a secured service, as they are with the 83/84! Also I’m surprised the 8/38 route inconsistency has lasted as long as it has, the opposite side of the road on an evening!
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Rob44 - 16 Feb 2023
Getting rid of the taxi buses - that's a good thing.... biggest fiddle going!
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - morritt89 - 16 Feb 2023
I'm genuinely surprised the 135/136 have lasted so long. I have vague memories of 51 plate MPDs having route branding for those routes. We're they supported at that time too or commercial? Does anyone know or remember?
The 79A, whilst providing local links was always quiet except the last trip on a Saturday and even then it was all free passes.
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Adrian - 16 Feb 2023
(16 Feb 2023, 9:01 am)morritt89 I'm genuinely surprised the 135/136 have lasted so long. I have vague memories of 51 plate MPDs having route branding for those routes. We're they supported at that time too or commercial? Does anyone know or remember?
The 79A, whilst providing local links was always quiet except the last trip on a Saturday and even then it was all free passes.
Me too, but I'm also surprised about the passenger numbers:
"During September 2022 an average of 6 customers travelled on each of the Monday – Saturday evening trips. An average of 7 customers travelled on each of the Sunday trips."
An average of 6 or 7 per trip could be considered quite good for secured services!
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Adrian - 16 Feb 2023
(16 Feb 2023, 9:01 am)morritt89 I'm genuinely surprised the 135/136 have lasted so long. I have vague memories of 51 plate MPDs having route branding for those routes. We're they supported at that time too or commercial? Does anyone know or remember?
The 79A, whilst providing local links was always quiet except the last trip on a Saturday and even then it was all free passes.
Me too, but I'm also surprised about the passenger numbers:
"During September 2022 an average of 6 customers travelled on each of the Monday – Saturday evening trips. An average of 7 customers travelled on each of the Sunday trips."
An average of 6 or 7 per trip could be considered quite good for secured services, and in this example, that's with competition across most of the route!
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - Andreos1 - 16 Feb 2023
(16 Feb 2023, 9:15 am)Adrian Me too, but I'm also surprised about the passenger numbers:
"During September 2022 an average of 6 customers travelled on each of the Monday – Saturday evening trips. An average of 7 customers travelled on each of the Sunday trips."
An average of 6 or 7 per trip could be considered quite good for secured services!
I keep looking at the information they share about numbers and can't help thinking it's like the Dr Beeching method of analysis.
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - ASX_Terranova - 16 Feb 2023
(16 Feb 2023, 9:43 am)Andreos1 I keep looking at the information they share about numbers and can't help thinking it's like the Dr Beeching method of analysis.
I don't think it will do any good, but I've responsed to the consulation, saying I think they should keep the 82A.
RE: May 2023 timetable changes - deanmachine - 16 Feb 2023
(15 Feb 2023, 7:58 pm)Dans_bus_photos https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/item/planned-cancellation-services-135-and-136
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/item/planned-cancellation-service-82a
Also cancelling the 79A:
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/item/planned-changes-service-79-and-cancellation-service-79a
They're recommending people in South Hetton get the X1, unless it's being extended all day that's quite a lack of awareness that the reason the 79A goes to South Hetton at all is to replace the X1 on an evening.