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RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - LVK 404L - 11 Jun 2018

(11 Jun 2018, 6:54 pm)S830OFT X34: South Shields - Pier Head - Marsden - Horsley Hill - Harton Nook - Whitleas - Boldon - Gateshead - Newcastle.
Service extended to South Shields via Pier Head, the service will no longer serve Prince Edward Road and will operate in both directions between Harton Nook and Marsden. The service will operate along the 516 route between Marsden and Pier Head. The service will be reduced to hourly and will operate later into the evenings and Sundays.

Shields Circular 30 and 30A:
South Shields - Chichester - Tyne Dock - Primrose - Fellgate Estate - Boldon Asda - East Boldon Metro - Cleadon Pond - Harton Nook - South Shields.
Services 30 and X20 combined to provide a hourly circular service in both directions.

*New* X4: Sunderland - Fulwell The Grange - Witherwack - Red House - North Hylton Road - Hylton Castle - Town End Farm - Downhill - Boldon Asda - Gateshead High Street - Newcastle.
This service will provide the North of Sunderland with direct links to Gateshead and Newcastle. It will also reinstate the link from the North to the Monkwearmouth Hospital. The service will operate hourly and will combine with service X34 to provide a every 30 minute service between Boldon and Newcastle.

X34 reduced to hourly,,, are you having a laugh

30/30a/x20. already been done not so long ago and failed.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - S830OFT - 14 Jun 2018

Newcastle:
X82: Heddon On The Wall - Throckley - Lemington Road Ends - General Hospital - Central Station - Pilgrim Street - Barris Bridge - Cowgate - Callerton - Airport - Ponteland.
Services X78 and X82 merged to create Cross City Links. They will retain there Every 30 minutes frequencys. However will no longer serve Eldon Square, instead they will serve Central Station and Pilgrim Street. The service is also extended to Heddon On The Wall aswell.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - stagecoachbusdepot - 15 Jun 2018

NEW Services X1 & X2 replacing existing Services X1 & X24

NEW Service X1 will operate from Sunderland Interchange Stand G – Belvedere Road – Tunstall Road – Queen Alexandra Road – Durham Road – City Way – Doxford International – City Way – direct via A19 then via existing X24 route to Gateshead and Newcastle.
To speed up journey times, new Service X1 will operate on a ‘boarding only’ basis between Sunderland Interchange and the Durham Road, with no stops for alighting until Doxford International.  It will then operate non-stop to Gateshead High Street and Newcastle Pilgrim Street.  Journeys from Newcastle will operate as ‘alighting only’ between Durham Road and Sunderland Interchange.

NEW Service X2 will operate via the existing X24 route between Newcastle and Sunderland University, then instead of serving Vine Place and Fawcett Street will operate via St Michaels Way and Grange Terrace to Sunderland Interchange Stand G.
To speed up journey times, new Service X2 will operate on a ‘boarding only’ basis between Sunderland Interchange and Gateshead High Street, with no stops for alighting until Gateshead High Street and Newcastle Pilgrim Street. Journeys from Newcastle will operate as ‘alighting only’ between Gateshead and Sunderland Interchange.

Both services will operate half hourly Monday – Saturday and will interwork requiring a PVR of 5 (achieved through faster journey times and the changes to terminal point in Sunderland).  The increased frequency will allow the use of lower capacity vehicles, improving fuel efficiency.  These changes will also enable the frequency of Service 4 to be restored to 10 minutes throughout the evening peak as the vehicles will no longer be required for Service X1.

Short hop local journeys won’t be possible on Services X1 and X2 but continue to be available on Stagecoach services 3, 4, 8, 12, 16 & 23.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - S830OFT - 15 Jun 2018

(15 Jun 2018, 8:36 pm)stagecoachbusdepot NEW Services X1 & X2 replacing existing Services X1 & X24

NEW Service X1 will operate from Sunderland Interchange Stand G – Belvedere Road – Tunstall Road – Queen Alexandra Road – Durham Road – City Way – Doxford International – City Way – direct via A19 then via existing X24 route to Gateshead and Newcastle.
To speed up journey times, new Service X1 will operate on a ‘boarding only’ basis between Sunderland Interchange and the Durham Road, with no stops for alighting until Doxford International.  It will then operate non-stop to Gateshead High Street and Newcastle Pilgrim Street.  Journeys from Newcastle will operate as ‘alighting only’ between Durham Road and Sunderland Interchange.

NEW Service X2 will operate via the existing X24 route between Newcastle and Sunderland University, then instead of serving Vine Place and Fawcett Street will operate via St Michaels Way and Grange Terrace to Sunderland Interchange Stand G.
To speed up journey times, new Service X2 will operate on a ‘boarding only’ basis between Sunderland Interchange and Gateshead High Street, with no stops for alighting until Gateshead High Street and Newcastle Pilgrim Street. Journeys from Newcastle will operate as ‘alighting only’ between Gateshead and Sunderland Interchange.

Both services will operate half hourly Monday – Saturday and will interwork requiring a PVR of 5 (achieved through faster journey times and the changes to terminal point in Sunderland).  The increased frequency will allow the use of lower capacity vehicles, improving fuel efficiency.  These changes will also enable the frequency of Service 4 to be restored to 10 minutes throughout the evening peak as the vehicles will no longer be required for Service X1.

Short hop local journeys won’t be possible on Services X1 and X2 but continue to be available on Stagecoach services 3, 4, 8, 12, 16 & 23.

One problem, I don't think Stagecoach would want to pay to use the bus station that much, that is one of the reasons why Stagecoach don't serve Gateshead Interchange, Heworth. That is a reason why the E buses were pulled from Park Lane aswell.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - stagecoachbusdepot - 15 Jun 2018

(15 Jun 2018, 9:04 pm)S830OFT One problem, I don't think Stagecoach would want to pay to use the bus station that much, that is one of the reasons why Stagecoach don't serve Gateshead Interchange, Heworth. That is a reason why the E buses were pulled from Park Lane aswell.

Yes you are probably right, thought the services could still run those routes using the stops the 8 & 20 do instead.   The number of unused stands at Park Lane nowadays is pretty telling.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - S830OFT - 15 Jun 2018

(15 Jun 2018, 9:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Yes you are probably right, thought the services could still run those routes using the stops the 8 & 20 do instead.   The number of unused stands at Park Lane nowadays is pretty telling.

Not only Park Lane stands missing services they seem to be missing the famous security who confront you for taking photos of the buses.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Michael - 15 Jun 2018

(15 Jun 2018, 9:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Yes you are probably right, thought the services could still run those routes using the stops the 8 & 20 do instead.   The number of unused stands at Park Lane nowadays is pretty telling.

Ye, wouldn't be surprised if more services are pulled in the near future, would be better if they didn't pay or even if it was a smaller fee, then at least it would fill the empty stands, congestion played a massive part for the Sunderland Stagecoach services pulling out too.


Although not Stagecoach but i'm not sure why the 73 stops at stand S, should be stand R, then stand S,T and V can be used as drop off/parking (if the parking bays full).


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - S830OFT - 15 Jun 2018

(15 Jun 2018, 9:48 pm)Michael Ye, wouldn't be surprised if more services are pulled in the near future, would be better if they didn't pay or even if it was a smaller fee, then at least it would fill the empty stands, congestion played a massive part for the Sunderland Stagecoach services pulling out too.


Although not Stagecoach but i'm not sure why the 73 stops at stand S, should be stand R, then stand S,T and V can be used as drop off/parking (if the parking bays full).

Think it's because it's a Nexus Bus and to avoid confusion with GNE buses they separated it.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 16 Jun 2018

(15 Jun 2018, 9:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Yes you are probably right, thought the services could still run those routes using the stops the 8 & 20 do instead.   The number of unused stands at Park Lane nowadays is pretty telling.

Going old school with those boarding rules mind Wink

As for the Park Lane comments. Couldn't they just operate via Holmeside on an in/out basis? Inbound X1 runs on to an outbound X2 and vice versa?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - stagecoachbusdepot - 16 Jun 2018

(16 Jun 2018, 7:38 am)Andreos1 Going old school with those boarding rules mind Wink

As for the Park Lane comments. Couldn't they just operate via Holmeside on an in/out basis? Inbound X1 runs on to an outbound X2 and vice versa?

Could do but would probably need to add 5-10 mins per jourey to get round/through town - so would likely add another bus to the PVR.  That was the thinking behind of terminating on the edge of city centre, kind of like the X24 & X34 do in Newcastle at the minute


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - big mac - 17 Jun 2018

(15 Jun 2018, 9:04 pm)S830OFT One problem, I don't think Stagecoach would want to pay to use the bus station that much, that is one of the reasons why Stagecoach don't serve Gateshead Interchange, Heworth. That is a reason why the E buses were pulled from Park Lane aswell.

How much do operators have to pay for their services to go into Gateshead Interchange, Heworth etc?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - S830OFT - 03 Jul 2018

15: Hastings Hill - Grindon - The Broadway - Pennywell Shops - Hylton Road - Royal Hospital - Millfield - Sunderland City Centre - Monkwearmouth - Fulwell The Grange - Carley Hill Road - Witherwack - Red House - Downhill.

16: Revised to operate Every 15 minutes combining with the 15 to provide a Every 7/8 minute service across the route. Service 16 route will remain unchanged.

20: Reduced to Every 20 minutes and will be revised to serve Chester Road opposed to Hylton. It will operate to South Hylton opposed to Pennywell Shops, passengers for Pennywell can use service 15 which operates up to Every 15 minutes Mon to Sat. Service 20 will not operate on Sunday or Evenings.

Service 3/4: Sunday and Evening services reduced to hourly.

Service 8: Withdrawn, replaced by a revised service 20.

23: Extended to Seaburn Morrison's.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - V514DFT - 04 Jul 2018

Bring back the 14 and 14A is what i say
Newcastle: extend the 18 to Killingworth via Forest Hall and to the Cobalt and re-number it 64


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - JM03 - 04 Jul 2018

(04 Jul 2018, 8:13 pm)V514DFT Bring back the 14 and 14A is what i say
Newcastle: extend the 18 to Killingworth via Forest Hall and to the Cobalt and re-number it 64
May as well withdraw K3 and what routes were the 14/A


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - V514DFT - 06 Jul 2018

(04 Jul 2018, 9:18 pm)JM03 May as well withdraw K3 and what routes were the 14/A

14/A was a service in Sunderland,used to serve the docks,and tbh whenever i see the K3 its always empty


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - JM03 - 06 Jul 2018

(06 Jul 2018, 9:48 pm)V514DFT 14/A was a service in Sunderland,used to serve the docks,and tbh whenever i see the K3 its always empty
Is it a nexus secured contract on K3?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - V514DFT - 07 Jul 2018

(06 Jul 2018, 10:34 pm)JM03 Is it a nexus secured contract on K3?

Not sure on that one mate,i know GNE operate it


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - S813 FVK - 07 Jul 2018

(06 Jul 2018, 10:34 pm)JM03 Is it a nexus secured contract on K3?

Yes - K3 is operated under contract to Nexus


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - S830OFT - 18 Nov 2018

X36: Sunderland - Grangetown - NonStop - Dalton Park - Peterlee - Blackhall - Hartlepool - Seaton Carew - Middlesbrough.
New Express service between Sunderland and Middlesbrough, this service will replace service 1 between Seaton Carew and Middlesbrough whilst providing new express links from Middlesbrough, Seaton Carew, Hartlepool, Dalton Park to Sunderland. Journeys on service 1 will be revised to operate between Seaton Carew and High Tunstall only.

This service will operate every 30 minutes Monday to Saturday and hourly Sunday.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - tcts24 - 18 Nov 2018

(18 Nov 2018, 1:11 am)S830OFT X36: Sunderland - Grangetown - NonStop - Dalton Park - Peterlee - Blackhall - Hartlepool - Seaton Carew - Middlesbrough.
New Express service between Sunderland and Middlesbrough, this service will replace service 1 between Seaton Carew and Middlesbrough whilst providing new express links from Middlesbrough, Seaton Carew, Hartlepool, Dalton Park to Sunderland. Journeys on service 1 will be revised to operate between Seaton Carew and High Tunstall only.

This service will operate every 30 minutes Monday to Saturday and hourly Sunday.

I'm guessing that would be Sunderland and Stockton depots? Giving Hartlepool depot yet another kick in the teeth!