+- North East Buses (https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forums)
+-- Forum: Local Bus Scene (https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Stagecoach North East (https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=57)
+--- Thread: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions (/showthread.php?tid=501)
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - V514DFT - 09 Oct 2020
Personally i think the 62/63 need looking at
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Acky81 - 29 Nov 2020
Was just thinking as Sunderland now operate the E1 E2 and E6 would it now be the time drop the E and just run these as 1 2 and 6. Stagecoach ditched economic colours years ago so it kind of makes sense
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - deanmachine - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 12:54 am)Acky81 Was just thinking as Sunderland now operate the E1 E2 and E6 would it now be the time drop the E and just run these as 1 2 and 6. Stagecoach ditched economic colours years ago so it kind of makes sense
Stagecoach still operate a 1 and a 2 in South Shields. Even though it only runs on a weekend morning, it could get confusing.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Acky81 - 29 Nov 2020
Fair point
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - cbma06 - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 12:54 am)Acky81 Was just thinking as Sunderland now operate the E1 E2 and E6 would it now be the time drop the E and just run these as 1 2 and 6. Stagecoach ditched economic colours years ago so it kind of makes sense
In the past few months I’ve been thinking about dropping the prefix E , but came up with a few in the air suggestions , there might be some small juggling to do in shields:
Withdraw E1/E2 and replaced by existing service 7/8 , with service 7/8 no longer a circular service and extended from Marsden to Sunderland via the old E1/E2 route
E6 replaced by service 9
Either service 17 or 18 extended from there terminal point to Bolton Asda then extended to Downhill to Sunderland Central replacing service 4
Service 8 in Sunderland renumbered to service 21, so you have service 20/21 on Hylton Road.
Service 4 will continue to run from Doxford Park to Sunderland but extended to Seaburn via the old 18/19 route between Sunderland and Seaburn, as passengers at Roker area have to be crammed onto service E1 which is already full.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Economic505 - 29 Nov 2020
The Economic service is historic. Granted , it’s previous numbering was 505/506 , before that 538/539, but I would keep it as it is.
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - cbma06 - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 9:18 am)Economic505 The Economic service is historic. Granted , it’s previous numbering was 505/506 , before that 538/539, but I would keep it as it is.
I don’t think stagecoach are bothered about old companies which were bought or runned off the road which there inherited of Busways, only thing that is left of the economic name is the prefix E, the routes have also changed since the economic days, let’s just say stagecoach are not GNE
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Storx - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 12:54 am)Acky81 Was just thinking as Sunderland now operate the E1 E2 and E6 would it now be the time drop the E and just run these as 1 2 and 6. Stagecoach ditched economic colours years ago so it kind of makes sense
Why though. Everyone knows what the numbers are and there's no benefit of taking the E off even known it means nothing. Never see the point in renumbering things for the sake of it personally and Stagecoach don't tend to do it. Half of the Newcastle network have had the same numbers for decades. It's a shame other operators don't do the same.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Economic505 - 29 Nov 2020
I agree, Why renumber for the sake of it. In truth , I struggle to remember GnE routes nowadays, what with their constant tinkering. The route planners of GNE must be on speed! Many people in Sunderland know exactly what the ‘E’ services are, even if the route isn’t quite the same as the historical route.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - V514DFT - 29 Nov 2020
The only thing i would do is renumber the E6 to E3, never understood why it jumps from E2 to E6
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - BFK - 29 Nov 2020
There used to be a service E3 which ran between South Shields and Sunderland via Westoe, Horsley Hill, Marsden, Whitburn, Seaburn and Roker. It was withdrawn about 18 years ago. The reason for E6 is because it ran in competition with Catch A Bus service 6. Both CAB 6 and E6 ran the exact same routes.
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - cbma06 - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 10:42 am)BFK There used to be a service E3 which ran between South Shields and Sunderland via Westoe, Horsley Hill, Marsden, Whitburn, Seaburn and Roker. It was withdrawn about 18 years ago. The reason for E6 is because it ran in competition with Catch A Bus service 6. Both CAB 6 and E6 ran the exact same routes.
The E3 was originally introduced in competition for Tyne and Wear omnibus company X2 between South Shields and Sunderland
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Storx - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 9:59 am)Economic505 I agree, Why renumber for the sake of it. In truth , I struggle to remember GnE routes nowadays, what with their constant tinkering. The route planners of GNE must be on speed! Many people in Sunderland know exactly what the ‘E’ services are, even if the route isn’t quite the same as the historical route.
Yeah agreed with GNE, there's absolute no logic to where things are either especially in Sunderland, the 2 and 39 being pretty much identical routes for most of it but two numbers with little history and they're miles apart for no reason. 35 and 55 between Sunderland and Houghton where the 55 comes from god knows as they're Sheriff Hill services. Then you have the odd numbers which make no sense being there, 6 to Stanley; 11 in N. Shields for example.
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Dan - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 10:54 am)Storx Yeah agreed with GNE, there's absolute no logic to where things are either especially in Sunderland, the 2 and 39 being pretty much identical routes for most of it but two numbers with little history and they're miles apart for no reason. 35 and 55 between Sunderland and Houghton where the 55 comes from god knows as they're Sheriff Hill services. Then you have the odd numbers which make no sense being there, 6 to Stanley; 11 in N. Shields for example.
I often think as enthusiasts we put way too much thought into route numbers of services and our judgement is blinded somewhat. Does it really matter which number a service has?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Michael - 29 Nov 2020
Why does bus route numbers need logic? - and link in to History? - its a bus number, I really don't think people care, as long as it turns up.... I literally couldn't give a toss, that my route is the 23 (Stagecoach) - as long as it turns up and I can get from A to B.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Storx - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 11:26 am)Dan I often think as enthusiasts we put way too much thought into route numbers of services and our judgement is blinded somewhat. Does it really matter which number a service has?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Surely though from a passenger point of view some of the routes could be numbered better though.
2 and 39 for example, surely the 39 being the 3 would be better to show off the common section between both of them, it's not unrealistic for someone who doesn't know buses to be confused by those not going the same place.
Same with the 35 and 55 surely the 36 would be a better number for the 55 for it's common sections to say look both these buses go to Sunderland from Hetton or both these buses go to Hetton from Durham Road etc.
There's a few others with similar problems; 5 and 26 South Shields to Hospital and the Jarrow end, 13 and 16 Durham to Sacriston, 21 and 25 Low Fell etc.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Michael - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 11:58 am)Storx Surely though from a passenger point of view some of the routes could be numbered better though.
2 and 39 for example, surely the 39 being the 3 would be better to show off the common section between both of them, it's not unrealistic for someone who doesn't know buses to be confused by those not going the same place.
Same with the 35 and 55 surely the 36 would be a better number for the 55 for it's common sections to say look both these buses go to Sunderland from Hetton or both these buses go to Hetton from Durham Road etc.
There's a few others with similar problems; 5 and 26 South Shields to Hospital and the Jarrow end, 13 and 16 Durham to Sacriston, 21 and 25 Low Fell etc.
Well no then you would people moaning that they'll get mixed up with the Stagecoach service 3..........
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Storx - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 12:03 pm)Michael Well no then you would people moaning that they'll get mixed up with the Stagecoach service 3..........
Well maybe not the 3 but that wasn't really the point. Name them the 2B and 2C even, the variation is so little between them, the 39 is just a short 2 pretty much extended to Doxford Park.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Dan - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 12:26 pm)Storx Well maybe not the 3 but that wasn't really the point. Name them the 2B and 2C even, the variation is so little between them, the 39 is just a short 2 pretty much extended to Doxford Park.
streetdeckfan to reception...
RE: Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions - Michael - 29 Nov 2020
(29 Nov 2020, 12:30 pm)Dan streetdeckfan to reception...
Remember how confusing the 35/35A/35B/35C were
