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RE: Tender Discussion Thread - R852 PRG - 04 Jun 2014 (04 Jun 2014, 7:15 pm)GuyParkRoyal From a strategic point of view GNE would be wise to remain in school contracts based on the situation when they let school contracts slip in the early 1990's. Along came Classic picking up school contracts then when they had a reasonable number of buses they used them to compete with GNE outside of school contract hours on the Chester le Street to Newcastle routes. I would be devastated if my scholars bus was run by an independant. GNE would indeed be very cautious to remain in the scholars game as they do make a lot of money on them. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - DanPicken - 05 Jun 2014 (04 Jun 2014, 8:31 pm)Marcus I would be devastated if my scholars bus was run by an independant. GNE would indeed be very cautious to remain in the scholars game as they do make a lot of money on them. mine when i joined this year had been Stanley travel for the first week RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 05 Jun 2014 tyresmoke Wrote: Up for tender from July with Nexus are 37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3 38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1 88 Lukes Lane - South Shields Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4 96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1 135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2 515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2 643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1 size restriction due to small estate roads R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3 Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand) The ones in bold is the ones which hasn't being registered on VOSA yet. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - gtom - 05 Jun 2014 (04 Jun 2014, 8:31 pm)Marcus I would be devastated if my scholars bus was run by an independant. GNE would indeed be very cautious to remain in the scholars game as they do make a lot of money on them. Devastated seems a bit of a strong word! RE: Tender Discussion Thread - MurdnunoC - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 2:06 pm)gtom Devastated seems a bit of a strong word! I thought so too. I've stated this many time before but, personally, I could care less who operates my bus as long as it gets me to where I want to be within the allotted time given. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - VolvoMarkII - 05 Jun 2014 (04 Jun 2014, 8:31 pm)Marcus I would be devastated if my scholars bus was run by an independant. GNE would indeed be very cautious to remain in the scholars game as they do make a lot of money on them. Thats absolute tosh. Most school buses work around normal service work for one reason only. They never stack up by themselves. Scholars daily rates are not good enough and they only help pay for the bus with the commercial work in the daytime making the profit. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 5:35 pm)VolvoMarkII Thats absolute tosh. Go North East have a lot of standalone scholar service workings - although primarily found in County Durham. They wouldn't go for these if they weren't making a profit from them, surely? RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Andreos1 - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 5:37 pm)Dan Go North East have a lot of standalone scholar service workings - although primarily found in County Durham. I wonder if the Co Durham peak fares help profits? RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 5:39 pm)Andreos Constantopolous I wonder if the Co Durham peak fares help profits? I'd imagine. There's no (or little) subsidy in Co. Durham, so it's up to commercial operators to create their own schemes if they choose to do so. I think the peak/off peak is GNE only in Co. Durham though? Arriva is half the full fare, capped at £1. Re: RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 7:00 pm)aureolin I'd imagine. There's no (or little) subsidy in Co. Durham, so it's up to commercial operators to create their own schemes if they choose to do so. I think the peak/off peak is GNE only in Co. Durham though? Arriva is half the full fare, capped at £1. What's the fares like for kids down in Lincoln? I'm sure I heard something about child fares being non-existent at peak times when they're travelling to/from school and they're forced to buy Adult Dayriders as it is the cheapest method. Was something crazy along those lines anyway. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 05 Jun 2014 Indeed. When travelling on Schooldays before 0900 adult single fare will be charged. A peak child return fare is available priced at 2/3 of the adult return. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Andreos1 - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 7:21 pm)Dan What's the fares like for kids down in Lincoln? I'm sure I heard something about child fares being non-existent at peak times when they're travelling to/from school and they're forced to buy Adult Dayriders as it is the cheapest method. I can ask the question, but being out in the sticks - fares may be different. Other cities and counties offer great deals. It is worth noting, DCC often assist with fares to/from schools. Re: RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 7:24 pm)Tom Indeed. That's the one. Knew it was ridiculously awkward to travel as a kid on a schoolday, and I was fairly positive in telling the person I discussed it with at the time that it is a lot cheaper to travel up here, providing you have the appropriate bus pass, regardless of which county you're travelling in. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 7:30 pm)Dan That's the one. Knew it was ridiculously awkward to travel as a kid on a schoolday, and I was fairly positive in telling the person I discussed it with at the time that it is a lot cheaper to travel up here, providing you have the appropriate bus pass, regardless of which county you're travelling in. I think that's the only place I've seen fares like that, as almost every county of the UK I have been to have always charged half fares regardless of the time. It's shocking really, and is just going to put people off using public transport to travel to school. Re: RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 7:32 pm)Tom I think that's the only place I've seen fares like that, as almost every county of the UK I have been to have always charged half fares regardless of the time. It's shocking really, and is just going to put people off using public transport to travel to school. Does mean that Stagecoach rake in the cash from those who cannot find an alternative means of travel though! Go North East do that in County Durham, just a lot less extreme (in my opinion). RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 7:34 pm)Dan Does mean that Stagecoach rake in the cash from those who cannot find an alternative means of travel though! Guess so! I reckon Tyne & Wear has the best concessionary child fares in the country - £1.10 for a day ticket is brilliant value. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - tyresmoke - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 7:36 pm)Tom Guess so! I reckon Tyne & Wear has the best concessionary child fares in the country - £1.10 for a day ticket is brilliant value. You're spoilt! Had kids on this morning paying £1.50 for a single to school in Guisborough... RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Drifter60 - 05 Jun 2014 (05 Jun 2014, 7:00 pm)aureolin I'd imagine. There's no (or little) subsidy in Co. Durham, so it's up to commercial operators to create their own schemes if they choose to do so. I think the peak/off peak is GNE only in Co. Durham though? Arriva is half the full fare, capped at £1. Can't the teen card not be used til after 6 though? Meaning scholars are charged half fares? So £4.00 fare would be £2.00 but 14+ pay full fare as half fares no longer apply. So GNE could still be better value. RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 09 Jun 2014 VOSA reveals more information about the upcoming tenders, as seen in Michael's post from the Go North East - Latest section below: (09 Jun 2014, 3:48 pm)Michael PB0002400/444 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA Still somewhat irritated that Go North East hasn't retained services 96/96A, as this means it's a different operator at night to what it is during the day! On the right path though, with the opposite happening for service 38C (though I'd assume this is more down to the fact Go North East had the cheapest bid rather than Nexus giving the tender to Go North East for the right reasons). RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 09 Jun 2014 (09 Jun 2014, 3:50 pm)Dan VOSA reveals more information about the upcoming tenders, as seen in Michael's post from the Go North East - Latest section below: Opps thanks Dan i forgot to put them in here! |