Chatham Coaches should invest in some more Routes, for an Idea A service from Low Grange Owington Farm-Billingham Town Centre-Norton-Stockton-Teesside Park?
Like the old X7/8 That stagecarruge used to run they were packed and were making a ton of money before they went into administration Billingham and Norton are currently left without a service to Teesside Park?
Maybe buy a batch of citaros or something.

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None of these are on Bustimes.org

Yeah they're going to magic 1 million for 4 buses or 200K for some older ones.

Well obviously they gonna have to save up but as a start they should make a new route because they are a few uncoverd places in Teesside that could use a bus route like Billingham-teessjde Park like I said for the first few times they can run their E200MMC on it until they build up the money. With the Mellor strata on the 18.

There does seem to be an obsession on here with sending buses to Teesside Park. I've never understood the appeal of the place myself. Only ever been there twice and niether of those visits were by choice.
Portrack has plenty to offer but difficult to get around on foot. So maybe a shuttle from Stockton High Street linking the various outlets on Portrack in a similar fasion to the MetroCentre shuttle?

There does seem to be an obsession on here with sending buses to Teesside Park. I've never understood the appeal of the place myself. Only ever been there twice and niether of those visits were by choice.
Portrack has plenty to offer but difficult to get around on foot. So maybe a shuttle from Stockton High Street linking the various outlets on Portrack in a similar fasion to the MetroCentre shuttle?

Or Portrack - High Street - Teesside Park and return.

Ticks all three boxes then and allows it to feed in to the existing network in and around Stockton.

The biggest issue is finding out if the people visiting Portrack or Teesside Park are actually coming from Stockton or if they're coming from further afield, would it still be quicker and easier to avoid public transport?

I guess a Middlesbrough base could be an option. Stockton seems to be the poorer of the two for retail options so I'd regard it as potentially more attractive to start from.
I live in Ludworth, so it's a bus from here to either Durham or Peterlee, then a 2nd change in Stockton (or wherever). Even with a free ride from my Stagecoach staff pass, I've never considered anything other than the car to get to Portrack and probably never would.

I guess a Middlesbrough base could be an option. Stockton seems to be the poorer of the two for retail options so I'd regard it as potentially more attractive to start from.
I live in Ludworth, so it's a bus from here to either Durham or Peterlee, then a 2nd change in Stockton (or wherever). Even with a free ride from my Stagecoach staff pass, I've never considered anything other than the car to get to Portrack and probably never would.

There's not many people in that neck of the woods would either I imagine.

I was thinking more for people in Thornaby, Billingham or Acklam.
Granted they would probably need just as many buses as you if using public transport - but they're obviously a lot closer.

So I think we've reached the conclusion that no additional route to either Portrack or Teesside Park are neccessary. It'd be a fair old trek from base for Coatham anyways.

So I think we've reached the conclusion that no additional route to either Portrack or Teesside Park are neccessary. It'd be a fair old trek from base for Coatham anyways.

Or if it is needed, it is an attractive, alternative option to the car - offering similar journey times and costs.
Particularly for those who are nearby.

If people wanted another bus service to Teesside Park, then GNE would probably "experiment" with diverting the X10 that way.

Let’s not forget that Teesside Park subsidise the service in there and have done for years.
There is lots I would love to do but it’s not going to happen any time soon.


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Would be class tho

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Maybe from Norton at least, tbh teessides transportation needs some improving the network isn’t very good

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Since the collapse of stagecarrige

The 80/89 would be one to target in when it next comes up for tender would fit in quite well with the 18 as there 2nd route

There does seem to be an obsession on here with sending buses to Teesside Park. I've never understood the appeal of the place myself. Only ever been there twice and niether of those visits were by choice.
Portrack has plenty to offer but difficult to get around on foot. So maybe a shuttle from Stockton High Street linking the various outlets on Portrack in a similar fasion to the MetroCentre shuttle?

Ideally Teesside Park does need a service but not to many. Have always wondered why Stagecoach have not tried sending the 36 there as it could easily be done. At the minute there only the X12 goes there ( have always thought was the wrong choice to send there especially with how busy it already is.  The X22 makes more sense ).  I wonder if it possible to do Portrack Stockton - Teesside park.

Ideally Teesside Park does need a service but not to many. Have always wondered why Stagecoach have not tried sending the 36 there as it could easily be done. At the minute there only the X12 goes there ( have always thought was the wrong choice to send there especially with how busy it already is.  The X22 makes more sense ).  I wonder if it possible to do Portrack Stockton - Teesside park.

Stagecoach always seem to have gone for the relatively direct and uniform 36, 37, 38 Stockton - Old Thornaby - Newport - Middlesbrough every 7/8 minutes and probably wouldn't benefit them sending one on a diversion to an out of town shopping complex. Arriva have always sent their Stockton to Middlesbrough buses all over the place via Thornaby centre, Teesdale or Teeside Park. So it could also be a case of not stepping on each others toes. I get the logic of sending the X22 there instead of the X12, although it gives the Teesside option to further flung places, potentially competing with Arniston Centre or MetroCentre, but I'm probably clutching at straws now. As I say, I've never had a reason to go there and looking at the shop guide of what's there, a bus every 30 minutes in each direction is probably more than sufficient.

The 80/89 would be one to target in when it next comes up for tender would fit in quite well with the 18 as there 2nd route

What is the 80/89

What is the 80/89

Stokesley-Northallerton run by Abbott’s currently


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The two big 'Hubs' have a connection to Teesside Park, 2 services direct and 8 via the viaduct (15 minute walk) plus several areas of Stockton does via Tees Flex.

So if a new service was to be made, It would likely have to serve a lot of areas or/and improve a service it's competing against.

I'd personally look at extending the 18 to something like Saltburn - Guisborough - Stokesley - Coulby Newham Parkway - Hemlington - Acklam - Teesside Park - Thornaby Station - Stockton.

Opening up a lot of Teesside to Teesside Park, and Stockton to a direct route to Stokesley, Guisborough and Saltburn could prove popular, and saves people swapping over 2/3 buses.

What haven’t I updated on? Quite a lot by the looks of the above!

Added at the start of the year were two Mercedes Tourismo triaxles BD18TKZ/TLF and they form the backbone of the Park & Ride fleet, recently another BV22WRG has been added and it too operates mostly on the P&R contract.

Other recent additions are 22 seat EVM Sprinter RX22SKE, electric EQV Vito NX22NWA and yesterday new 70 seat Irizar i4 YT72GNY arrived too!

Solo YJ10MFN departed a few months ago to SD Travel.


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The two big 'Hubs' have a connection to Teesside Park, 2 services direct and 8 via the viaduct (15 minute walk) plus several areas of Stockton does via Tees Flex.

So if a new service was to be made, It would likely have to serve a lot of areas or/and improve a service it's competing against.

I'd personally look at extending the 18 to something like Saltburn - Guisborough - Stokesley - Coulby Newham Parkway - Hemlington - Acklam - Teesside Park - Thornaby Station - Stockton.

Opening up a lot of Teesside to Teesside Park, and Stockton to a direct route to Stokesley, Guisborough and Saltburn could prove popular, and saves people swapping over 2/3 buses.

Yeah that's good they should do that

Looks like the 18 service is being cancelled.

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/605552/

Looks like the 18 service is being cancelled.

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/605552/

It will be replaced with a new registration shortly as NYCC have agreed to fund it for us.


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It will be replaced with a new registration shortly as NYCC have agreed to fund it for us.


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Increased operating hours? 

Still haven't used it. Not because I don't want to. But because it doesn't run when I need it to. 
It's taxi or Teesflex everytime, whether that be a week day evening or during the day on a Saturday.
Don't think I'm the only one in that position either.

It will be replaced with a new registration shortly as NYCC have agreed to fund it for us.

New timetable has been posted on their Facebook today, reduction in the number of journeys with the Guisborough to Saltburn stretch being withdrawn.

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No offence but the 18 is kinda shit it hardly runs during hte day thye run a minibus on there instead of the mmc, and it should go to middlesbrough ir something it doesnt really go to any good transport locations for passengers. Really wish they would expand to stockton or norton or something.

No offence but the 18 is kinda shit it hardly runs during hte day thye run a minibus on there instead of the mmc, and it should go to middlesbrough ir something it doesnt really go to any good transport locations for passengers. Really wish they would expand to stockton or norton or something.

It’s funded by NYCC now and they only want to fund Stokesley to Guisborough journeys so that’s what it runs. Good news though it will continue to run beyond April, but more on that when we can!

Recent addition to the fleet is mini Sprinter YC67NJK, watch this space for more soon.


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Coatham Coaches are to take over operation of services 80/89 from Abbotts of Leeming in mid April with a revised timetable: https://twitter.com/CoathamConnect/statu...uBt0uraW0g&s=19

Are they going to buy more buses then?

It’s funded by NYCC now and they only want to fund Stokesley to Guisborough journeys so that’s what it runs. Good news though it will continue to run beyond April, but more on that when we can!

Recent addition to the fleet is mini Sprinter YC67NJK, watch this space for more soon.


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Are there any plans to update the timetable on the Coatham website, which is currently advertising the wrong times and a stretch of the route that was seemingly withdrawn in January. Not really the best way to encourage use of the service, or a great look for the company?

Arriving for the start of services 80/89 Stokesley to Northallerton was EVM Sprinter RX23TKC which has seen use on there every day since.
Arriving yesterday to boost capacity was ADL Enviro 200 YX18KNR which should enter service next week.

Also recently into the fleet was Merc Sprinter LN22RMU which has effectively replaced Ford Transit YP64DXH which will be leaving shortly. Also recently departed was Mercedes 613 YX57JXY.

Three more new coaches are on order to renew the fleet over the next few months.


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Do you reckon it will become a bigger operatir and take more routes on? Maybe into middlesbrough/stockton

Haven't seen Coathams MMC's or there loaned E 200 out for a while. They just been using the Mercs for their services now or are the E200's broke does anyone know?