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Dan

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21 May 2014, 4:36 pm #1
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Metrodecker: the new London bus
Manufactured by Leeds-based Optare, the new fuel-efficient double decker could be in service by the end of the year


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...n-bus.html
Dan
21 May 2014, 4:36 pm #1

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Metrodecker: the new London bus
Manufactured by Leeds-based Optare, the new fuel-efficient double decker could be in service by the end of the year


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...n-bus.html

Michael



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21 May 2014, 4:41 pm #2
(21 May 2014, 4:36 pm)Dan [Image: Three-Quarter-View_2918148b.jpg]
Metrodecker: the new London bus
Manufactured by Leeds-based Optare, the new fuel-efficient double decker could be in service by the end of the year


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...n-bus.html

Oh that looks nice

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
21 May 2014, 4:41 pm #2

(21 May 2014, 4:36 pm)Dan [Image: Three-Quarter-View_2918148b.jpg]
Metrodecker: the new London bus
Manufactured by Leeds-based Optare, the new fuel-efficient double decker could be in service by the end of the year


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...n-bus.html

Oh that looks nice


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Malarkey



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21 May 2014, 4:50 pm #3
I think it is Hideous to be brutally honest.
Malarkey
21 May 2014, 4:50 pm #3

I think it is Hideous to be brutally honest.

citaro5284



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21 May 2014, 4:51 pm #4
(21 May 2014, 4:50 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I think it is Hideous to be brutally honest.

What makes it hideous Adam?
citaro5284
21 May 2014, 4:51 pm #4

(21 May 2014, 4:50 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I think it is Hideous to be brutally honest.

What makes it hideous Adam?

Malarkey



6,063
21 May 2014, 5:01 pm #5
(21 May 2014, 4:51 pm)citaro5284 What makes it hideous Adam?

The front end of the Vehicle and those Upper Deck Windows and the fact it has been built for London is what makes it Hideous citaro5284.

Launch of new Optare MetroDecker double deck bus in the Piazza. London Covent Garden, Jubilee Market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5iST_9eTY
Malarkey
21 May 2014, 5:01 pm #5

(21 May 2014, 4:51 pm)citaro5284 What makes it hideous Adam?

The front end of the Vehicle and those Upper Deck Windows and the fact it has been built for London is what makes it Hideous citaro5284.

Launch of new Optare MetroDecker double deck bus in the Piazza. London Covent Garden, Jubilee Market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5iST_9eTY

Andreos1



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21 May 2014, 5:09 pm #6
(21 May 2014, 4:50 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I think it is Hideous to be brutally honest.

I heard the demo Versa and an ANE Gemini copped off a few months back at Belmont.

Looks the rumour was true!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
21 May 2014, 5:09 pm #6

(21 May 2014, 4:50 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I think it is Hideous to be brutally honest.

I heard the demo Versa and an ANE Gemini copped off a few months back at Belmont.

Looks the rumour was true!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Malarkey



6,063
21 May 2014, 5:24 pm #7
(21 May 2014, 5:09 pm)Andreos Constantopolous I heard the demo Versa and an ANE Gemini copped off a few months back at Belmont.

Looks the rumour was true!

That's odd as I thought Buses were referred to as Women, which would mean either the Versa or the Gemini is a Hermaphrodite then.
Malarkey
21 May 2014, 5:24 pm #7

(21 May 2014, 5:09 pm)Andreos Constantopolous I heard the demo Versa and an ANE Gemini copped off a few months back at Belmont.

Looks the rumour was true!

That's odd as I thought Buses were referred to as Women, which would mean either the Versa or the Gemini is a Hermaphrodite then.

Andreos1



14,202
21 May 2014, 5:46 pm #8
(21 May 2014, 5:24 pm)NEBCD Malarkey That's odd as I thought Buses were referred to as Women, which would mean either the Versa or the Gemini is a Hermaphrodite then.

No idea...

But this is their lovechild!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
21 May 2014, 5:46 pm #8

(21 May 2014, 5:24 pm)NEBCD Malarkey That's odd as I thought Buses were referred to as Women, which would mean either the Versa or the Gemini is a Hermaphrodite then.

No idea...

But this is their lovechild!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

RM2186



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21 May 2014, 5:49 pm #9
I quite like it!
RM2186
21 May 2014, 5:49 pm #9

I quite like it!

22 May 2014, 8:19 am #10
Looks stunning. For some reason I think it looks nicer in that blue, but no doubt will end up in London Red.
R852 PRG
22 May 2014, 8:19 am #10

Looks stunning. For some reason I think it looks nicer in that blue, but no doubt will end up in London Red.

22 May 2014, 8:21 am #11
(21 May 2014, 5:01 pm)NEBCD Malarkey The front end of the Vehicle and those Upper Deck Windows and the fact it has been built for London is what makes it Hideous citaro5284.

Launch of new Optare MetroDecker double deck bus in the Piazza. London Covent Garden, Jubilee Market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5iST_9eTY

Is that a double door Versa I can see in the background?
R852 PRG
22 May 2014, 8:21 am #11

(21 May 2014, 5:01 pm)NEBCD Malarkey The front end of the Vehicle and those Upper Deck Windows and the fact it has been built for London is what makes it Hideous citaro5284.

Launch of new Optare MetroDecker double deck bus in the Piazza. London Covent Garden, Jubilee Market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5iST_9eTY

Is that a double door Versa I can see in the background?

Dan

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22 May 2014, 8:28 am #12
(22 May 2014, 8:21 am)Marcus Is that a double door Versa I can see in the background?

The front overhang doesn't appear to be quite as big as the Versa - perhaps a MetroCity to go with the MetroDecker?
Dan
22 May 2014, 8:28 am #12

(22 May 2014, 8:21 am)Marcus Is that a double door Versa I can see in the background?

The front overhang doesn't appear to be quite as big as the Versa - perhaps a MetroCity to go with the MetroDecker?

22 May 2014, 10:58 am #13
(22 May 2014, 8:28 am)Dan The front overhang doesn't appear to be quite as big as the Versa - perhaps a MetroCity to go with the MetroDecker?

Yeah, now that I think twice it probably is. It's the way the windows look when compared to a Versa.
R852 PRG
22 May 2014, 10:58 am #13

(22 May 2014, 8:28 am)Dan The front overhang doesn't appear to be quite as big as the Versa - perhaps a MetroCity to go with the MetroDecker?

Yeah, now that I think twice it probably is. It's the way the windows look when compared to a Versa.

Kuyoyo



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23 Jun 2014, 6:28 pm #14
Further details as revealed in the latest Buses magazine
  • Avaliable in 2 lengths - 10.5m and 11.1m
  • Built to just one height (14ft 1 1/2in) and to a narrower width (2.5m) to the rest of the decker (2.55m)
  • Engine is the 228bhp 5.1 litre Mercedes-Benz OM934LA (also used in the Solos and Versas, and will also power the StreetDeck) installed in a transverse layout (compared to the longitudinally layout in the StreetDeck) with a six-speed ZF Ecolife gearbox
  • Hybrid, Electric and flywheel mirco hybrid version to be available from next year
Kuyoyo
23 Jun 2014, 6:28 pm #14

Further details as revealed in the latest Buses magazine

  • Avaliable in 2 lengths - 10.5m and 11.1m
  • Built to just one height (14ft 1 1/2in) and to a narrower width (2.5m) to the rest of the decker (2.55m)
  • Engine is the 228bhp 5.1 litre Mercedes-Benz OM934LA (also used in the Solos and Versas, and will also power the StreetDeck) installed in a transverse layout (compared to the longitudinally layout in the StreetDeck) with a six-speed ZF Ecolife gearbox
  • Hybrid, Electric and flywheel mirco hybrid version to be available from next year

BJ10VUS



850
23 Jun 2014, 6:38 pm #15
(22 May 2014, 8:28 am)Dan The front overhang doesn't appear to be quite as big as the Versa - perhaps a MetroCity to go with the MetroDecker?

Metro City or Metrocity as in "atrocity"? Tongue
BJ10VUS
23 Jun 2014, 6:38 pm #15

(22 May 2014, 8:28 am)Dan The front overhang doesn't appear to be quite as big as the Versa - perhaps a MetroCity to go with the MetroDecker?

Metro City or Metrocity as in "atrocity"? Tongue

Dan

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23 Jun 2014, 6:40 pm #16
(23 Jun 2014, 6:38 pm)BJ10VUS Metro City or Metrocity as in "atrocity"? Tongue

Hopefully the former - could lead to operators calling them a 'monstrosity'.
Dan
23 Jun 2014, 6:40 pm #16

(23 Jun 2014, 6:38 pm)BJ10VUS Metro City or Metrocity as in "atrocity"? Tongue

Hopefully the former - could lead to operators calling them a 'monstrosity'.

BJ10VUS



850
23 Jun 2014, 6:44 pm #17
(23 Jun 2014, 6:40 pm)Dan Hopefully the former - could lead to operators calling them a 'monstrosity'.

I quite like the look of the MetroCity and MetroDecker, but I imagine if they're going the same way as most of the current GNE Versas (especially QuayLink), they'll have rattled themselves silly within 6 months!
BJ10VUS
23 Jun 2014, 6:44 pm #17

(23 Jun 2014, 6:40 pm)Dan Hopefully the former - could lead to operators calling them a 'monstrosity'.

I quite like the look of the MetroCity and MetroDecker, but I imagine if they're going the same way as most of the current GNE Versas (especially QuayLink), they'll have rattled themselves silly within 6 months!

L469 YVK



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24 Jun 2014, 4:52 pm #18
Looks nice but the E400 MMC is the only suitable double deck offering as far as I'm concerned for anything outside London and with the R&D that ADL put into it and with the exception of the likes of Coast Castles, X93 and TTX, a well fitted and set up Cummins 6.7 unit combined with new bodywork and electrics will deliver good reliability if well looked after. Sorry but a 5 litre engine is absolutely no good. ADL could even introduce a B8TL chassis at somepoint when Mr Souter is looking to replace his N230UD versions for long and demanding routes. It looks good and could give the B5TL / Gemini 3 a good run for it's money but for normal suburban and mid range interurban work double deck work, the MMC wins hands down. Sorry but unless Optare either insert and to a high standard fit at least a Cummins 6.7 unit, they've got no chance of any orders.
L469 YVK
24 Jun 2014, 4:52 pm #18

Looks nice but the E400 MMC is the only suitable double deck offering as far as I'm concerned for anything outside London and with the R&D that ADL put into it and with the exception of the likes of Coast Castles, X93 and TTX, a well fitted and set up Cummins 6.7 unit combined with new bodywork and electrics will deliver good reliability if well looked after. Sorry but a 5 litre engine is absolutely no good. ADL could even introduce a B8TL chassis at somepoint when Mr Souter is looking to replace his N230UD versions for long and demanding routes. It looks good and could give the B5TL / Gemini 3 a good run for it's money but for normal suburban and mid range interurban work double deck work, the MMC wins hands down. Sorry but unless Optare either insert and to a high standard fit at least a Cummins 6.7 unit, they've got no chance of any orders.

Kuyoyo



6,853
24 Jun 2014, 5:37 pm #19
(24 Jun 2014, 4:52 pm)DaveyBowyer Looks nice but the E400 MMC is the only suitable double deck offering as far as I'm concerned for anything outside London and with the R&D that ADL put into it and with the exception of the likes of Coast Castles, X93 and TTX, a well fitted and set up Cummins 6.7 unit combined with new bodywork and electrics will deliver good reliability if well looked after. Sorry but a 5 litre engine is absolutely no good. ADL could even introduce a B8TL chassis at somepoint when Mr Souter is looking to replace his N230UD versions for long and demanding routes. It looks good and could give the B5TL / Gemini 3 a good run for it's money but for normal suburban and mid range interurban work double deck work, the MMC wins hands down. Sorry but unless Optare either insert and to a high standard fit at least a Cummins 6.7 unit, they've got no chance of any orders.

BIB: prey tell how are ADL going to introduce a B8TL chassis when Volvo do the B-TL!? Face facts Davey, there will be no B8TL in the style of the B5TL - because it would mean taking more weight out of the chassis to fit the 8 litre engine and retain the weight saving, plus the cost to do so will likely outweight the orders for it (and before you bang on - First and Stagecoach are now set on E400s, Arriva are likewise going so, Go Ahead are taking the first E400MMC for Oxford and notice that the only real independent taking Volvos has been Delaine)
Kuyoyo
24 Jun 2014, 5:37 pm #19

(24 Jun 2014, 4:52 pm)DaveyBowyer Looks nice but the E400 MMC is the only suitable double deck offering as far as I'm concerned for anything outside London and with the R&D that ADL put into it and with the exception of the likes of Coast Castles, X93 and TTX, a well fitted and set up Cummins 6.7 unit combined with new bodywork and electrics will deliver good reliability if well looked after. Sorry but a 5 litre engine is absolutely no good. ADL could even introduce a B8TL chassis at somepoint when Mr Souter is looking to replace his N230UD versions for long and demanding routes. It looks good and could give the B5TL / Gemini 3 a good run for it's money but for normal suburban and mid range interurban work double deck work, the MMC wins hands down. Sorry but unless Optare either insert and to a high standard fit at least a Cummins 6.7 unit, they've got no chance of any orders.

BIB: prey tell how are ADL going to introduce a B8TL chassis when Volvo do the B-TL!? Face facts Davey, there will be no B8TL in the style of the B5TL - because it would mean taking more weight out of the chassis to fit the 8 litre engine and retain the weight saving, plus the cost to do so will likely outweight the orders for it (and before you bang on - First and Stagecoach are now set on E400s, Arriva are likewise going so, Go Ahead are taking the first E400MMC for Oxford and notice that the only real independent taking Volvos has been Delaine)

Malarkey



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24 Jun 2014, 5:58 pm #20
(24 Jun 2014, 5:37 pm)Kuyoyo BIB: prey tell how are ADL going to introduce a B8TL chassis when Volvo do the B-TL!? Face facts Davey, there will be no B8TL in the style of the B5TL - because it would mean taking more weight out of the chassis to fit the 8 litre engine and retain the weight saving, plus the cost to do so will likely outweight the orders for it (and before you bang on - First and Stagecoach are now set on E400s, Arriva are likewise going so, Go Ahead are taking the first E400MMC for Oxford and notice that the only real independent taking Volvos has been Delaine)

Yeah but Stagecoach have ordered Volvo B5LH's with the New E400 Bodywork in a Partnership between Volvo and Alexander Dennis, So surely that Partnership between Alexander and Volvo would allow for the B8TL to happen, and I would think Wrightbus would also have some input on this Partnership also.
Malarkey
24 Jun 2014, 5:58 pm #20

(24 Jun 2014, 5:37 pm)Kuyoyo BIB: prey tell how are ADL going to introduce a B8TL chassis when Volvo do the B-TL!? Face facts Davey, there will be no B8TL in the style of the B5TL - because it would mean taking more weight out of the chassis to fit the 8 litre engine and retain the weight saving, plus the cost to do so will likely outweight the orders for it (and before you bang on - First and Stagecoach are now set on E400s, Arriva are likewise going so, Go Ahead are taking the first E400MMC for Oxford and notice that the only real independent taking Volvos has been Delaine)

Yeah but Stagecoach have ordered Volvo B5LH's with the New E400 Bodywork in a Partnership between Volvo and Alexander Dennis, So surely that Partnership between Alexander and Volvo would allow for the B8TL to happen, and I would think Wrightbus would also have some input on this Partnership also.

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