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Storx



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19 Sep 2019, 8:13 pm #81

(24 Feb 2019, 12:52 pm)Andreos1 When they're on, I am sure they could work on improving the W services in Whitley Bay and 333.

I would argue there's a bit of duplication within the W services and could look to improve revenues/margins (footfall) at the same time. 

W2 and W3 to merge (along with western elements of W1), with some slight variations to routes. 

W1 and 333 to merge (using the northern section of Broadway as the link) and 333 to serve Front Street in Tynemouth, before going back to its normal route, passing Linskill. 
On the Fish Quay, it will serve the ferry in both directions and omit Brewhouse Bank.


I know it would be difficult as it's two different operators and two different councils subsiding the services however the W2 would be better to merge with the 58. Then have a long extended bus route.


Cramlington -> New Hospital -> Seghill (Change From East Cramlington) -> Seaton Delaval -> New Hartley -> Seaton Sluice -> Whitley Bay Metro


This would create lots of new links such as:

  • Restore the half hourly service between Seghill and Cramlington.
  • New link from Seghill direct to hospital.
  • New links between New Hartley / Seaton Delaval Hall and Whitley Bay
  • New links between New Hartley / Seaton Delaval Hall / Seaton Sluice direct to the Metro for connections.

https://goo.gl/maps/km8fG7iHDyhSbcF56 - Something like that which would take an hour throughout with a PVR 2.


Then extend the 43 every hour to East Hartford like so to keep the Cramlington local links - https://goo.gl/maps/3Q9AyYXSoFqTxeAr7 and extend the 43 from Morpeth to Northgate Hospital doing the T1A route. (Maybe omit Beacon Hill as I'm not sure deckers can get around there) with an extra PVR 1 giving those a direct link to Newcastle without changing.

Makes better use of public funds and it's only an extra PVR of 1/2 bus. (Nothing doing T2 and T3) but creates more links and creates potentially some profit on the Seghill to Cramlington part which can be standing at times on the 57A and gives New Hartley their link back to Whitley, they've been moaning for awhile about losing the 12 - a few years ago.

Edit: Just noticed that post was February sorry but still true.


Storx
19 Sep 2019, 8:13 pm #81

(24 Feb 2019, 12:52 pm)Andreos1 When they're on, I am sure they could work on improving the W services in Whitley Bay and 333.

I would argue there's a bit of duplication within the W services and could look to improve revenues/margins (footfall) at the same time. 

W2 and W3 to merge (along with western elements of W1), with some slight variations to routes. 

W1 and 333 to merge (using the northern section of Broadway as the link) and 333 to serve Front Street in Tynemouth, before going back to its normal route, passing Linskill. 
On the Fish Quay, it will serve the ferry in both directions and omit Brewhouse Bank.


I know it would be difficult as it's two different operators and two different councils subsiding the services however the W2 would be better to merge with the 58. Then have a long extended bus route.


Cramlington -> New Hospital -> Seghill (Change From East Cramlington) -> Seaton Delaval -> New Hartley -> Seaton Sluice -> Whitley Bay Metro


This would create lots of new links such as:

  • Restore the half hourly service between Seghill and Cramlington.
  • New link from Seghill direct to hospital.
  • New links between New Hartley / Seaton Delaval Hall and Whitley Bay
  • New links between New Hartley / Seaton Delaval Hall / Seaton Sluice direct to the Metro for connections.

https://goo.gl/maps/km8fG7iHDyhSbcF56 - Something like that which would take an hour throughout with a PVR 2.


Then extend the 43 every hour to East Hartford like so to keep the Cramlington local links - https://goo.gl/maps/3Q9AyYXSoFqTxeAr7 and extend the 43 from Morpeth to Northgate Hospital doing the T1A route. (Maybe omit Beacon Hill as I'm not sure deckers can get around there) with an extra PVR 1 giving those a direct link to Newcastle without changing.

Makes better use of public funds and it's only an extra PVR of 1/2 bus. (Nothing doing T2 and T3) but creates more links and creates potentially some profit on the Seghill to Cramlington part which can be standing at times on the 57A and gives New Hartley their link back to Whitley, they've been moaning for awhile about losing the 12 - a few years ago.

Edit: Just noticed that post was February sorry but still true.


24 Dec 2019, 12:59 pm #82
Got a lot of good ideas, would like to get a operators license and run some of them, but would need to win the lottery ????
ASX_Terranova
24 Dec 2019, 12:59 pm #82

Got a lot of good ideas, would like to get a operators license and run some of them, but would need to win the lottery ????

Bob



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22 Jul 2021, 5:35 pm #83
Nexus consultation on planned changes to 333 and 335 in North Tyneside

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-333

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-335
Bob
22 Jul 2021, 5:35 pm #83

Nexus consultation on planned changes to 333 and 335 in North Tyneside

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-333

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-335

Andreos1



14,197
22 Jul 2021, 6:21 pm #84
(22 Jul 2021, 5:35 pm)Bob Nexus consultation on planned changes to 333 and 335 in North Tyneside

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-333

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-335

Trying to understand the 335 changes and struggling, but hugely in favour of the 333 changes.
I definitely think it would be better going via Tynemouth centre, than missing it as it does currently. A shame that it misses out a huge chunk of the Fish Quay though. There must be a way of including it all.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
22 Jul 2021, 6:21 pm #84

(22 Jul 2021, 5:35 pm)Bob Nexus consultation on planned changes to 333 and 335 in North Tyneside

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-333

https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-335

Trying to understand the 335 changes and struggling, but hugely in favour of the 333 changes.
I definitely think it would be better going via Tynemouth centre, than missing it as it does currently. A shame that it misses out a huge chunk of the Fish Quay though. There must be a way of including it all.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

RMF1254



162
23 Jul 2021, 8:14 am #85
I’ve a feeling there were proposals to close the Fish Quay to traffic so this would solve the problem for the 333. Of course there are plans to move the ferry landing to the Fish Quay so problem then would be how to serve that with a connecting bus.
The 335 seems a good idea, the traffic lights at ASDA are dreadful so it would eliminate standing there twice on the current double run. It seems to provide more shopping links which would help increase loadings. Hopefully different operators for both!
RMF1254
23 Jul 2021, 8:14 am #85

I’ve a feeling there were proposals to close the Fish Quay to traffic so this would solve the problem for the 333. Of course there are plans to move the ferry landing to the Fish Quay so problem then would be how to serve that with a connecting bus.
The 335 seems a good idea, the traffic lights at ASDA are dreadful so it would eliminate standing there twice on the current double run. It seems to provide more shopping links which would help increase loadings. Hopefully different operators for both!

Ambassador



1,844
23 Jul 2021, 8:35 am #86
(23 Jul 2021, 8:14 am)RMF1254 I’ve a feeling there were proposals to close the Fish Quay to traffic so this would solve the problem for the 333. Of course there are plans to move the ferry landing to the Fish Quay so problem then would be how to serve that with a connecting bus.
The 335 seems a good idea, the traffic lights at ASDA are dreadful so it would eliminate standing there twice on the current double run. It seems to provide more shopping links which would help increase loadings. Hopefully different operators for both!

The actual state of public transport in North Tyneside when it takes 20 minutes on a bus to get from Forest Hall to Quorum is seen as an improvement! It's not much slower walking!

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
23 Jul 2021, 8:35 am #86

(23 Jul 2021, 8:14 am)RMF1254 I’ve a feeling there were proposals to close the Fish Quay to traffic so this would solve the problem for the 333. Of course there are plans to move the ferry landing to the Fish Quay so problem then would be how to serve that with a connecting bus.
The 335 seems a good idea, the traffic lights at ASDA are dreadful so it would eliminate standing there twice on the current double run. It seems to provide more shopping links which would help increase loadings. Hopefully different operators for both!

The actual state of public transport in North Tyneside when it takes 20 minutes on a bus to get from Forest Hall to Quorum is seen as an improvement! It's not much slower walking!


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

V514DFT



2,237
23 Jul 2021, 10:54 pm #87
Im all for the 335 changes,finally Forest Hall getting recognised at last,ive always thought though,that 335 and 333 could be merged especially if both changes go ahead

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
23 Jul 2021, 10:54 pm #87

Im all for the 335 changes,finally Forest Hall getting recognised at last,ive always thought though,that 335 and 333 could be merged especially if both changes go ahead


Kind Regards
Tez

Train8261



1,016
27 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm #88
Putting the 335 through Forest Hall and down into Palmersvill then to Benton Asda would give people the link that Arriva lost when the roundabout was took out and the 53 didn't serve Benton Asda
Train8261
27 Jul 2021, 12:35 pm #88

Putting the 335 through Forest Hall and down into Palmersvill then to Benton Asda would give people the link that Arriva lost when the roundabout was took out and the 53 didn't serve Benton Asda

Andreos1



14,197
27 Jul 2021, 2:06 pm #89
https://twitter.com/My_Metro/status/1418...17092?s=19

Kids go free on the Metro and Shields Ferry this summer.
When accompanied by a fare paying adult.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
27 Jul 2021, 2:06 pm #89

https://twitter.com/My_Metro/status/1418...17092?s=19

Kids go free on the Metro and Shields Ferry this summer.
When accompanied by a fare paying adult.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Train8261



1,016
31 Aug 2021, 6:51 pm #90
The planned changes would be introduced in September/October 2021 (subject to feedback/comments received)

This was at the bottom of the planned change for the 333/335

Surprised we haven't heard anything if it was successful
Train8261
31 Aug 2021, 6:51 pm #90

The planned changes would be introduced in September/October 2021 (subject to feedback/comments received)

This was at the bottom of the planned change for the 333/335

Surprised we haven't heard anything if it was successful

Bob



10
07 Dec 2021, 7:16 pm #91
Some proposed changes from Nexus now listed at https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation
Bob
07 Dec 2021, 7:16 pm #91

Some proposed changes from Nexus now listed at https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation

cainebj



69
07 Dec 2021, 7:56 pm #92
To save people lots of clicking between the different pages, the proposals are:

11 (evening & Sunday) divert route to serve Ferry Landing/Fish Quay in place of service 19.
19 (evening & Sunday) to withdraw.
32A (evening & Sunday) to withdraw evening services. Sunday service reduce to hourly and extend to/from Walker.
33/33A to amend route to serve Shieldfield and Northumbria University.
44 to remove the Saturday 06:03 Dinnington - Newcastle journey.
91 to be retimed. 09:00 from Newcastle and 17:38 from Team Valley to be withdrawn.
333 to withdraw.
335 to extend to Ferry Landing/Fish Quay in place of 333.
351 new service to replace 359, Mon to Sat hourly service from Backworth Shrewsbury Drive to Whitley Bay Metro via Heritage Green, Northumberland Park, Earsdon Village, Sainsbury’s West Monkseaton, Beaumont Park, Whitley Lodge and Whitley Bay Town Centre
359 to withdraw, replace with new 351.
552 curtail 06:43 from Brunswick Village to start at Regent Centre at 07:20 instead (10 mins later at Regent Centre to allow time for connecting services).
553 to withdraw the 06:53 Wallsend - Freeman Hospital and 16:46 Freeman Hospital - Battle Hill.
643 to allocate subsidy to allow the service to continue.
K1 to withdraw.
K2 to revise route to additionally serve Forest Hall Shops.
W3 revise to serve Murton village.
cainebj
07 Dec 2021, 7:56 pm #92

To save people lots of clicking between the different pages, the proposals are:

11 (evening & Sunday) divert route to serve Ferry Landing/Fish Quay in place of service 19.
19 (evening & Sunday) to withdraw.
32A (evening & Sunday) to withdraw evening services. Sunday service reduce to hourly and extend to/from Walker.
33/33A to amend route to serve Shieldfield and Northumbria University.
44 to remove the Saturday 06:03 Dinnington - Newcastle journey.
91 to be retimed. 09:00 from Newcastle and 17:38 from Team Valley to be withdrawn.
333 to withdraw.
335 to extend to Ferry Landing/Fish Quay in place of 333.
351 new service to replace 359, Mon to Sat hourly service from Backworth Shrewsbury Drive to Whitley Bay Metro via Heritage Green, Northumberland Park, Earsdon Village, Sainsbury’s West Monkseaton, Beaumont Park, Whitley Lodge and Whitley Bay Town Centre
359 to withdraw, replace with new 351.
552 curtail 06:43 from Brunswick Village to start at Regent Centre at 07:20 instead (10 mins later at Regent Centre to allow time for connecting services).
553 to withdraw the 06:53 Wallsend - Freeman Hospital and 16:46 Freeman Hospital - Battle Hill.
643 to allocate subsidy to allow the service to continue.
K1 to withdraw.
K2 to revise route to additionally serve Forest Hall Shops.
W3 revise to serve Murton village.

DeltaMan



559
07 Dec 2021, 8:03 pm #93
The proposed changes to the 33/33A seem far to sensible to have been devised at NEXUS House. But fair play to them as its good idea linking Jesmond with the University
DeltaMan
07 Dec 2021, 8:03 pm #93

The proposed changes to the 33/33A seem far to sensible to have been devised at NEXUS House. But fair play to them as its good idea linking Jesmond with the University

Train8261



1,016
07 Dec 2021, 8:11 pm #94
My opinion if there will be good enough

11 I think would do well plus it gives a full route along the Fish Quay that the 333 does not do on a Sunday

32A seems okay but is there really a demand for it to run any further than Newcastle (to Walker)

33/33A seems like a good option. No need for it to serve the route it currently does as there's to many services that run its route into town (next to Jesmond(if that makes sense)

44 & 91 can't say as don't know what passengers numbers are like

333 had some complain about its route change back in July there's that factor to consider

335 I saw quite a few people ask for it to be extended to the fish Quay as the 333 & 335 never linked up in time at North Shields

351 I think would do really well as it gives people a link to Whitley Bay (also plus) it serves Whitley Bay Metro

359 can't really say for passengers numbers round Marsden

552&553 can't really say for passengers numbers

643 not to sure. Seems a bit busy when I've been at the Metrocentre

K1 & K2 might have a problem with the K1 but seems okay to me

W3 I'd say it might do well
Train8261
07 Dec 2021, 8:11 pm #94

My opinion if there will be good enough

11 I think would do well plus it gives a full route along the Fish Quay that the 333 does not do on a Sunday

32A seems okay but is there really a demand for it to run any further than Newcastle (to Walker)

33/33A seems like a good option. No need for it to serve the route it currently does as there's to many services that run its route into town (next to Jesmond(if that makes sense)

44 & 91 can't say as don't know what passengers numbers are like

333 had some complain about its route change back in July there's that factor to consider

335 I saw quite a few people ask for it to be extended to the fish Quay as the 333 & 335 never linked up in time at North Shields

351 I think would do really well as it gives people a link to Whitley Bay (also plus) it serves Whitley Bay Metro

359 can't really say for passengers numbers round Marsden

552&553 can't really say for passengers numbers

643 not to sure. Seems a bit busy when I've been at the Metrocentre

K1 & K2 might have a problem with the K1 but seems okay to me

W3 I'd say it might do well

Andreos1



14,197
07 Dec 2021, 9:50 pm #95
(07 Dec 2021, 7:16 pm)Bob Some proposed changes from Nexus now listed at https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation

I can see some positives in the 333/335 changes. A shame that the link to Tynemouth would cease though.

Can only see positives with that 33 proposal.

Totally unsurprised about the 643. 
Was it Thatcher who invented the term 'managed decline'? Huh

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
07 Dec 2021, 9:50 pm #95

(07 Dec 2021, 7:16 pm)Bob Some proposed changes from Nexus now listed at https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation

I can see some positives in the 333/335 changes. A shame that the link to Tynemouth would cease though.

Can only see positives with that 33 proposal.

Totally unsurprised about the 643. 
Was it Thatcher who invented the term 'managed decline'? Huh


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Michael



19,157
07 Dec 2021, 10:22 pm #96
Wouldn't be surprised if proposals came forward for Sunderland soon.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
07 Dec 2021, 10:22 pm #96

Wouldn't be surprised if proposals came forward for Sunderland soon.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Keeiajs

563891

1,026
07 Dec 2021, 10:43 pm #97
(07 Dec 2021, 10:22 pm)Michael Wouldn't be surprised if proposals came forward for Sunderland soon.
But what would you change.
Keeiajs
07 Dec 2021, 10:43 pm #97

(07 Dec 2021, 10:22 pm)Michael Wouldn't be surprised if proposals came forward for Sunderland soon.
But what would you change.

Train8261



1,016
08 Dec 2021, 12:10 am #98
Question here is. These changes to services that nexus have put up. Is there any PVR change to any of them at all

Also would the 351 go to Go North East or go to Gateshead Central Taxis

Is the 33/33A staying with Go North East or going to Gateshead Central Taxis
Train8261
08 Dec 2021, 12:10 am #98

Question here is. These changes to services that nexus have put up. Is there any PVR change to any of them at all

Also would the 351 go to Go North East or go to Gateshead Central Taxis

Is the 33/33A staying with Go North East or going to Gateshead Central Taxis

Thomas12



465
08 Dec 2021, 1:02 am #99
(08 Dec 2021, 12:10 am)Train8261 Question here is. These changes to services that nexus have put up. Is there any PVR change to any of them at all

Also would the 351 go to Go North East or go to Gateshead Central Taxis

Is the 33/33A staying with Go North East or going to Gateshead Central Taxis
They’ll go out for tender so you’ll have to wait until the results of them to find out.
Thomas12
08 Dec 2021, 1:02 am #99

(08 Dec 2021, 12:10 am)Train8261 Question here is. These changes to services that nexus have put up. Is there any PVR change to any of them at all

Also would the 351 go to Go North East or go to Gateshead Central Taxis

Is the 33/33A staying with Go North East or going to Gateshead Central Taxis
They’ll go out for tender so you’ll have to wait until the results of them to find out.

Michael



19,157
08 Dec 2021, 2:25 pm #100
(07 Dec 2021, 10:43 pm)Keeiajs But what would you change.

Honestly not sure, I rarely use the services so I don't know if they're popular or not, but wouldn't be surprised if the 135/136 go.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
08 Dec 2021, 2:25 pm #100

(07 Dec 2021, 10:43 pm)Keeiajs But what would you change.

Honestly not sure, I rarely use the services so I don't know if they're popular or not, but wouldn't be surprised if the 135/136 go.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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