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Andreos1

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03 Feb 2020, 12:56 pm #34

(02 Feb 2020, 10:19 am)Rob44 Coming down hard on the car driver is never going to work. The carrot and stick approach is the way forward.
I've mention this loads of times before but I'd rather run a car then pay 68 quid a month on the "appt" for unlimited travel. It seems like a good deal at just over £2.50 per day but its no good if the bus your hoping to travel on doesn't turn up. Make buses more reliable, and ALOT cheaper than my car and this will cancel out the negatives i've got about getting bus to work ( noisy passengers, dirty buses, waiting around for a connection etc etc)

And what incentive is there for you to change, if using the car is more convenient (forgetting the actual environment comparison between bus and car)?

No matter how many fewer cars are on the road; until public transport is quicker, reliable and attractive with pricing - without the inconvenience of having to get a connection, then it's not going to appeal to the majority.

At the weekend, I made a trip to a retail park, to visit B&M and Asda. I had a boot full of stuff. Managed to get there and back within the hour and wasn't in any particular rush.
The cost in getting up there and back, was pennies.

If I used the bus, there was one an hour.
Regardless of costs, there was no way I would have been able to transport the same stuff on the bus.
The overall trip from door to door would have taken 2hours plus. Including waiting time.

If I had taken the bus to the nearest town centre, there would have been the issue of cost and also loading the stuff on to the bus.
If there was a tax on taking the car in, the decision to visit the out of town retail park - would have been even easier.
It wouldn't have made me use the bus.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

03 Feb 2020, 12:56 pm #34

(02 Feb 2020, 10:19 am)Rob44 Coming down hard on the car driver is never going to work. The carrot and stick approach is the way forward.
I've mention this loads of times before but I'd rather run a car then pay 68 quid a month on the "appt" for unlimited travel. It seems like a good deal at just over £2.50 per day but its no good if the bus your hoping to travel on doesn't turn up. Make buses more reliable, and ALOT cheaper than my car and this will cancel out the negatives i've got about getting bus to work ( noisy passengers, dirty buses, waiting around for a connection etc etc)

And what incentive is there for you to change, if using the car is more convenient (forgetting the actual environment comparison between bus and car)?

No matter how many fewer cars are on the road; until public transport is quicker, reliable and attractive with pricing - without the inconvenience of having to get a connection, then it's not going to appeal to the majority.

At the weekend, I made a trip to a retail park, to visit B&M and Asda. I had a boot full of stuff. Managed to get there and back within the hour and wasn't in any particular rush.
The cost in getting up there and back, was pennies.

If I used the bus, there was one an hour.
Regardless of costs, there was no way I would have been able to transport the same stuff on the bus.
The overall trip from door to door would have taken 2hours plus. Including waiting time.

If I had taken the bus to the nearest town centre, there would have been the issue of cost and also loading the stuff on to the bus.
If there was a tax on taking the car in, the decision to visit the out of town retail park - would have been even easier.
It wouldn't have made me use the bus.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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