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#21
(14/01/2015, 21:39)Malarkey Wrote: I have when GNE had one on Demonstration on the Toonlink, did a Round Trip on the 31/32 and I thought it coped quite well with the route e.g. Climbing the Hills around Winlaton etc, but on the flip side I would have to agree with Davey in saying that a Vehicle with more Power and Bigger Fuel Tank would be better suited.
That wasn't the StreetDeck - that was a Volvo B5TL/Wright Gemini 3.
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#22
(14/01/2015, 21:40)Dan Wrote: That wasn't the StreetDeck - that was a Volvo B5TL/Wright Gemini 3.
Bugger, but in terms of Engine Size etc they are pretty much the same though.

Streetdeck - http://www.wrightsgroup.com/datasheets/A...Update.pdf
B5TL - http://www.wrightsgroup.com/datasheets/A...dateGR.pdf
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#23
(14/01/2015, 21:21)DaveyBowyer Wrote: To be honest, with the exception of the 308, I don't see either the Streetdeck or Volvo B5TL Gemini 3 fitting into any doubledeck route for Arriva North East whatsoever. I think Arriva should stick with ADL bodywork for all bus types and if they see the benefits of using a heavyweight type on the X93, the Scania Chassis on the E400 MMC would be ideal for the Ashington Express work and the X10 / X11 from Blyth but, as Arriva like it, they put fuel economy before reliability and punctuality. If they cared about them two, they would've ordered B9TLs or N230s when they were on the market rather than E400s and DB300s

(14/01/2015, 21:28)ArrivaNE_7522 Wrote: How do you know the StreetDeck wouldn't work up here? It's not all about powerful engines. Have you been on a StreetDeck to see what it's like?

(14/01/2015, 21:39)Malarkey Wrote: I have when GNE had one on Demonstration on the Toonlink, did a Round Trip on the 31/32 and I thought it coped quite well with the route e.g. Climbing the Hills around Winlaton etc, but on the flip side I would have to agree with Davey in saying that a Vehicle with more Power and Bigger Fuel Tank would be better suited.

To quote an industry insider from another forum

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Euro6 is best met with a smaller engine running at higher temperatures so smaller engines are the best way to arrive at it

Hence the move to 5 and 6 litre engine Double Deckers.
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#24
(14/01/2015, 21:51)Kuyoyo Wrote: To quote an industry insider from another forum


Hence the move to 5 and 6 litre engine Double Deckers.
Does this mean that the 5 and 6 litre engines at Euro 6 will be made to produce more power, or equivalent to Euro 5 counterparts? 

Or is that purely in terms of compliance? 
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#25
Well put it this way, I've been on both a B5LH and B9TL up the Cradlewell Bank past the Corner House onto the Coast Road and whereas the B5LH does OK once the engine engages, but the B9TL goes up like a stink even with 80 - 90 passengers as I experienced after the home match against Everton.
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#26
(24/11/2014, 16:10)tyresmoke Wrote: Hello everyone.... It's that time of year again, the 2014 order has been completed and we move onto the 2015 order.

More will hopefully become clear in the near future, but here is what I have found out so far...

ADL Enviro 200 (6)
6 Wales (Wrexham) - services 3/4

ADL Enviro 400 (112?)
11 North West (Green Lane) - Standard specification - Service 10B
Delivered December 2014 - 4584-4594 SL64JCX/JCY/JCZ/JDF/JDJ/JDK/JDO/JDU/JDX/JDZ/JEJ/JEO

26 North West (St Helens) - Standard specification - Services 10/10A
Delivered January 2015 - 4595-4620 SL64JEO/JEU/JFA/JFE/JFF/JFG/JFJ/JFK/JFN/JFO/JFU/JFV/JFX/JFZ/JGX/JGY/JGZ/JHA/JHE/JHH/JHJ/JHK/JHO/JHU/JHV

16 North West (Bootle) - Standard specification - Services 52/52A
Delivered January/February 2015 - 4621-36 SL64JHX

8 Wales (Chester) - Sapphire specification - Sapphire 10
Delivered February 2015 - 4637-4644

5 North East (Darlington.Durham) - Sapphire specification - Sapphire 7
2 North East (Durham) - Sapphire specification - Sapphire 6
12? Shires (Aylesbury) - Sapphire specification - Sapphire 280
16 Yorkshire (Belle Isle) - Sapphire specification - Sapphire 110
16 Yorkshire (Dewsbury) - MAX specification - Services 202/203

Wright Streetlite DF (55)
25 Midlands (Telford)
5 North East (Darlington) - MAX X1
6 North East (Durham) - SAPPHIRE 6
6 North West (Birkenhead) - service 487
13 Shires (Stevenage) - SAPPHIRE 100/101

Wright Streetlite WF (25)
6 S.Counties (Tunbridge Wells) - service 281
Delivered February 2015 - 1656-61 GN64DXT/DXU/DXV/DXW/DXX/DXY
13 Shires (Luton) - services 28/29
6 Wales (Rhyl) - services 35/36, 83/84 (rumoured)

Total order - 198(?)
Looks like the ones for the 202/203 are now in the process of being delivered, also looks like the E400 Orders wont be E400MMCs either.

SN15 LLG - https://www.flickr.com/photos/122507681@...331557560/
SN15 LLT - https://www.flickr.com/photos/122507681@...331299428/
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#27
(13/02/2015, 18:20)Malarkey Wrote: Looks like the ones for the 202/203 are now in the process of being delivered, also looks like the E400 Orders wont be E400MMCs either.

SN15 LLG - https://www.flickr.com/photos/122507681@...331557560/
SN15 LLT - https://www.flickr.com/photos/122507681@...331299428/
Further Update:

SN15 LLC, SN15 LLD, SN15 LLE and SN15 LLR have also been Delivered, to be given Fleet Numbers 1914 to 1930
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128789124@...334341617/
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#28
It has been confirmed on Arriva North West's Facebook page that Green Lane depot is due 35 ADL Enviro400s (Euro V specification) for the 12/13 (Liverpool - Stockbridge Village) and 15 (Liverpool - Huyton) routes. I believe Speke depot is also due a batch but no confirmation as yet.
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#29
I know Scott has already seen this pic but the first MAX streetlite has emerged from Wright. The picture shown below shows 1592:


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#30
(21/02/2015, 22:03)Robert Wrote: I know Scott has already seen this pic but the first MAX streetlite has emerged from Wright. The picture shown below shows 1582:

Is this example for the North East (Darlington), if so it can't be 1582 as 1582 is a Coastliner 306 branded example.
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