£2 Price Cap, Jan - March' 23
£2 Price Cap, Jan - March' 23
(22 Dec 2022, 11:51 pm)DeltaMan It's a shame north east operators are so far behind with tap on tap off/automated price capping. The £2 max fare is the ideal situation to push it. Another missed opportunity
(22 Dec 2022, 11:51 pm)DeltaMan It's a shame north east operators are so far behind with tap on tap off/automated price capping. The £2 max fare is the ideal situation to push it. Another missed opportunity
(22 Dec 2022, 11:51 pm)DeltaMan It's a shame north east operators are so far behind with tap on tap off/automated price capping. The £2 max fare is the ideal situation to push it. Another missed opportunity
(22 Dec 2022, 11:51 pm)DeltaMan It's a shame north east operators are so far behind with tap on tap off/automated price capping. The £2 max fare is the ideal situation to push it. Another missed opportunity
(23 Dec 2022, 12:23 pm)deanmachine GNE could easily implement it with this offer, they already have it on every bus after 7pm with the £2.30 evening cap.But I doubt that GNE can afford to do it!!
(23 Dec 2022, 12:23 pm)deanmachine GNE could easily implement it with this offer, they already have it on every bus after 7pm with the £2.30 evening cap.But I doubt that GNE can afford to do it!!
(23 Dec 2022, 1:21 pm)busmanT But I doubt that GNE can afford to do it!!
Don't forget, the nationwide £2 cap is subsidised by central Government (i.e. the tax payers - of which I'm one!)
(23 Dec 2022, 1:21 pm)busmanT But I doubt that GNE can afford to do it!!
Don't forget, the nationwide £2 cap is subsidised by central Government (i.e. the tax payers - of which I'm one!)
(23 Dec 2022, 12:23 pm)deanmachine GNE could easily implement it with this offer, they already have it on every bus after 7pm with the £2.30 evening cap.They'd need to scrap all fares below £2 though. And to be fair to Go Ahead (First and a lesser extent Arriva) they are all far further down the line with this soet of thing than Slothcoach, who think an app based solution is the way forward.
(23 Dec 2022, 12:23 pm)deanmachine GNE could easily implement it with this offer, they already have it on every bus after 7pm with the £2.30 evening cap.They'd need to scrap all fares below £2 though. And to be fair to Go Ahead (First and a lesser extent Arriva) they are all far further down the line with this soet of thing than Slothcoach, who think an app based solution is the way forward.
(23 Dec 2022, 3:26 pm)DeltaMan They'd need to scrap all fares below £2 though. And to be fair to Go Ahead (First and a lesser extent Arriva) they are all far further down the line with this soet of thing than Slothcoach, who think an app based solution is the way forward.
(23 Dec 2022, 3:26 pm)DeltaMan They'd need to scrap all fares below £2 though. And to be fair to Go Ahead (First and a lesser extent Arriva) they are all far further down the line with this soet of thing than Slothcoach, who think an app based solution is the way forward.
(22 Dec 2022, 11:52 am)Ianthegoon Wait for it to be split into two (or more!) routes, with services "connecting" at the common end point .....
(22 Dec 2022, 11:52 am)Ianthegoon Wait for it to be split into two (or more!) routes, with services "connecting" at the common end point .....
Department for Transport clip on the £2 single fare price cap, filmed in Newcastle Gateshead:
https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/status/1609476649464270851?s=46&t=0G4MuljfPbOzkd1sy1VnzQ
(01 Jan 2023, 9:18 am)ne14ne1 Department for Transport clip on the £2 single fare price cap, filmed in Newcastle Gateshead:
https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/status/1609476649464270851?s=46&t=0G4MuljfPbOzkd1sy1VnzQ
(01 Jan 2023, 9:18 am)ne14ne1 Department for Transport clip on the £2 single fare price cap, filmed in Newcastle Gateshead:
https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/status/1609476649464270851?s=46&t=0G4MuljfPbOzkd1sy1VnzQ
Meanwhile on the Tyne & Wear Metro they've capped Single Fares at £2 and Day Tickets at £4 providing you have an Adult/Child Pop Smart Card - https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...d-25879140 - It really begs the question why Bus Operators can't do the same and cap Day, Weekly and Monthly Fares unless of course you live in West Yorkshire where this is already in place.
The fare cap was introduced from today (January 2) and will run for the next three months. The £2 cap gives an adult with a Pop smartcard savings of up to 38% on a single journey, with an all-zone ticket currently costing £3.25.
The daily cap on all-zone travel will come down by 85p, from £4.85 currently. The £2 cap will also apply to young people with a Pop 19-21 card and to bus services that are contracted by Nexus.
Nexus said that its offer was only being made on Pop, which is already cheaper than paper tickets, in order to "encourage further take up" and cut down on printing tickets costs.
The discounts will not apply to those buying paper tickets from Metro ticket machines.
Nexus say they have introduced the fare cap to help Metro customers with the cost of living, and match an equivalent offer on the local bus network, since the Government confirmed that all bus journeys in England would be capped at that level between January and March 2023.
I’m currently sitting on a crush loaded green arrow pretending to be a 21 with Mrs ambassador trundling home to low fell bathed in this weird green bus light and one is already regretting not just paying the ncp £6.50 to park the car
I guess my point is who is this trying to attract?
Me and Mrs A. Low Fell into town and back. There’s £6, not horrendous….but makes you realise how shockingly overpriced GNE were in the first place.
The hassle of missing journeys remains, overcrowding on poorly allocated routes and general inconvenience remains. This isn’t tempting drivers out of their car, it’s not value driven enough to save weekly ticket holders any cash. It’ll drag in a few leisure loads and one off types but not long enough.
Not sure what the aim of this government is tbh aside tick a few boxes .
(04 Jan 2023, 12:09 am)Ambassador I guess my point is who is this trying to attract?
Me and Mrs A. Low Fell into town and back. There’s £6, not horrendous….but makes you realise how shockingly overpriced GNE were in the first place.
The hassle of missing journeys remains, overcrowding on poorly allocated routes and general inconvenience remains. This isn’t tempting drivers out of their car, it’s not value driven enough to save weekly ticket holders any cash. It’ll drag in a few leisure loads and one off types but not long enough.
Not sure what the aim of this government is tbh aside tick a few boxes .
(04 Jan 2023, 12:09 am)Ambassador I guess my point is who is this trying to attract?
Me and Mrs A. Low Fell into town and back. There’s £6, not horrendous….but makes you realise how shockingly overpriced GNE were in the first place.
The hassle of missing journeys remains, overcrowding on poorly allocated routes and general inconvenience remains. This isn’t tempting drivers out of their car, it’s not value driven enough to save weekly ticket holders any cash. It’ll drag in a few leisure loads and one off types but not long enough.
Not sure what the aim of this government is tbh aside tick a few boxes .
(04 Jan 2023, 12:09 am)Ambassador I guess my point is who is this trying to attract?
Me and Mrs A. Low Fell into town and back. There’s £6, not horrendous….but makes you realise how shockingly overpriced GNE were in the first place.
The hassle of missing journeys remains, overcrowding on poorly allocated routes and general inconvenience remains. This isn’t tempting drivers out of their car, it’s not value driven enough to save weekly ticket holders any cash. It’ll drag in a few leisure loads and one off types but not long enough.
Not sure what the aim of this government is tbh aside tick a few boxes .
(04 Jan 2023, 12:09 am)Ambassador I guess my point is who is this trying to attract?
Me and Mrs A. Low Fell into town and back. There’s £6, not horrendous….but makes you realise how shockingly overpriced GNE were in the first place.
The hassle of missing journeys remains, overcrowding on poorly allocated routes and general inconvenience remains. This isn’t tempting drivers out of their car, it’s not value driven enough to save weekly ticket holders any cash. It’ll drag in a few leisure loads and one off types but not long enough.
Not sure what the aim of this government is tbh aside tick a few boxes .
Anyone going on one bus from A to B could potentially save a good few quid over the three months, but how many of those would be travelling anyway? And once you have to change buses, a return trip becomes at least £8 and then you're in the situation of being better off with a day ticket.
In my view, the money the government is spending on this would've been better used on improvements to bus shelters and displays, installing area maps and live departure screens. Given some to local authorities to produce timetable booklets and leaflets, and marketing. That way, some benefits could last much longer than three months.
We're all bus enthusiasts and probably enjoy planning trips, going online to search timetables and so on, but most people don't want to go out of their way to search for all the information. Making it more accessible and actually having some paper copies of timetables is an area for improvement I think.
(04 Jan 2023, 5:49 pm)tvd Anyone going on one bus from A to B could potentially save a good few quid over the three months, but how many of those would be travelling anyway? And once you have to change buses, a return trip becomes at least £8 and then you're in the situation of being better off with a day ticket.
In my view, the money the government is spending on this would've been better used on improvements to bus shelters and displays, installing area maps and live departure screens. Given some to local authorities to produce timetable booklets and leaflets, and marketing. That way, some benefits could last much longer than three months.
We're all bus enthusiasts and probably enjoy planning trips, going online to search timetables and so on, but most people don't want to go out of their way to search for all the information. Making it more accessible and actually having some paper copies of timetables is an area for improvement I think.
(04 Jan 2023, 5:49 pm)tvd Anyone going on one bus from A to B could potentially save a good few quid over the three months, but how many of those would be travelling anyway? And once you have to change buses, a return trip becomes at least £8 and then you're in the situation of being better off with a day ticket.
In my view, the money the government is spending on this would've been better used on improvements to bus shelters and displays, installing area maps and live departure screens. Given some to local authorities to produce timetable booklets and leaflets, and marketing. That way, some benefits could last much longer than three months.
We're all bus enthusiasts and probably enjoy planning trips, going online to search timetables and so on, but most people don't want to go out of their way to search for all the information. Making it more accessible and actually having some paper copies of timetables is an area for improvement I think.
(05 Jan 2023, 1:12 am)Bazza I would suggest that the average passenger would prefer the cheaper fares to any of the things you have suggested the money be spent on
(05 Jan 2023, 1:12 am)Bazza I would suggest that the average passenger would prefer the cheaper fares to any of the things you have suggested the money be spent on
I'm currently sat in Spoons and listening to a conversation about the £2 bus fare.
They were both saying how it will still be considerably cheaper for them to get a day/weekly ticket than to buy singles.
More importantly, they said the way it's been marketed is misleading people into buying singles over a day ticket, which actually costs them more money. To be honest, I can see how that could be the case if you're not too familiar with the tickets available.