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05 Jan 2023, 1:48 pm #61
I can see why people are thinking that. For Going from Rothbury - Creswell, you have to go to Morpeth (X14) then Ashington (35), then to Creswell (1). It would Cost £6 for one way or £12 return. It would just be cheaper to get a £8.60 Day Ticket. I just think that the Scheme has been poorly thought out and they haven't done enough to advertise the other options.
Also for a Morpeth + Ashington Weekly Ticket, it costs £27 or £3.86 a day. Much better value then £1.90 Stobhill - Morpeth then £2 Morpeth - Ashington. £3.90 One way or £7.80 Return. Like I said previous, They are just promoting Singles, not the other ticket options.
NEbushopper
05 Jan 2023, 1:48 pm #61

I can see why people are thinking that. For Going from Rothbury - Creswell, you have to go to Morpeth (X14) then Ashington (35), then to Creswell (1). It would Cost £6 for one way or £12 return. It would just be cheaper to get a £8.60 Day Ticket. I just think that the Scheme has been poorly thought out and they haven't done enough to advertise the other options.
Also for a Morpeth + Ashington Weekly Ticket, it costs £27 or £3.86 a day. Much better value then £1.90 Stobhill - Morpeth then £2 Morpeth - Ashington. £3.90 One way or £7.80 Return. Like I said previous, They are just promoting Singles, not the other ticket options.

05 Jan 2023, 2:28 pm #62
Stagecoach have no mention at all of it any of their vehicles (not Slaty) ones anyway given how shockingly high their single fares are in NCL it will only benefit those who are making a single journey.

If you’re someone like me who travels occasionally but regularly then the multi 10 journey riders offers better value than this £2 single at £31.50 for 10 that’s £3.15 a day ticket which, is better value than this £2 single fare.
Coastliner700
05 Jan 2023, 2:28 pm #62

Stagecoach have no mention at all of it any of their vehicles (not Slaty) ones anyway given how shockingly high their single fares are in NCL it will only benefit those who are making a single journey.

If you’re someone like me who travels occasionally but regularly then the multi 10 journey riders offers better value than this £2 single at £31.50 for 10 that’s £3.15 a day ticket which, is better value than this £2 single fare.

05 Jan 2023, 3:27 pm #63
(05 Jan 2023, 2:28 pm)Coastliner700 Stagecoach have no mention at all of it any of their vehicles (not Slaty) ones anyway given how shockingly high their single fares are in NCL it will only benefit those who are making a single journey.

If you’re someone like me who travels occasionally but regularly then the multi 10 journey riders offers better value than this £2 single at £31.50 for 10 that’s £3.15 a day ticket which, is better value than this £2 single fare.

Regarding SNE I travelled back from West Denton to Pallion the other day coming home. It only cost me £4 as opposed to £5 day ticket (DayRider+)
logidoodah
05 Jan 2023, 3:27 pm #63

(05 Jan 2023, 2:28 pm)Coastliner700 Stagecoach have no mention at all of it any of their vehicles (not Slaty) ones anyway given how shockingly high their single fares are in NCL it will only benefit those who are making a single journey.

If you’re someone like me who travels occasionally but regularly then the multi 10 journey riders offers better value than this £2 single at £31.50 for 10 that’s £3.15 a day ticket which, is better value than this £2 single fare.

Regarding SNE I travelled back from West Denton to Pallion the other day coming home. It only cost me £4 as opposed to £5 day ticket (DayRider+)

DeltaMan



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05 Jan 2023, 5:12 pm #64
(05 Jan 2023, 2:28 pm)Coastliner700 Stagecoach have no mention at all of it any of their vehicles (not Slaty) ones anyway given how shockingly high their single fares are in NCL it will only benefit those who are making a single journey.

If you’re someone like me who travels occasionally but regularly then the multi 10 journey riders offers better value than this £2 single at £31.50 for 10 that’s £3.15 a day ticket which, is better value than this £2 single fare.
They are still advertising the Santa Bus. They might get around to advertising the £2 thing by 1st April....
DeltaMan
05 Jan 2023, 5:12 pm #64

(05 Jan 2023, 2:28 pm)Coastliner700 Stagecoach have no mention at all of it any of their vehicles (not Slaty) ones anyway given how shockingly high their single fares are in NCL it will only benefit those who are making a single journey.

If you’re someone like me who travels occasionally but regularly then the multi 10 journey riders offers better value than this £2 single at £31.50 for 10 that’s £3.15 a day ticket which, is better value than this £2 single fare.
They are still advertising the Santa Bus. They might get around to advertising the £2 thing by 1st April....

06 Jan 2023, 1:32 pm #65
(05 Jan 2023, 12:54 pm)streetdeckfan I'm currently sat in Spoons and listening to a conversation about the £2 bus fare.
They were both saying how it will still be considerably cheaper for them to get a day/weekly ticket than to buy singles.

More importantly, they said the way it's been marketed is misleading people into buying singles over a day ticket, which actually costs them more money. To be honest, I can see how that could be the case if you're not too familiar with the tickets available.

True, went on a day trip with a couple of mates who were visiting from Ireland. Was still worth it for them two to get a Day Rover each with us using 3 buses, the ferry and a metro. No worrying about prices of travel either, so we could get the bus up from the Quayside to the City Centre when we didn't fancy Dean Street after a day of walking.
deanmachine
06 Jan 2023, 1:32 pm #65

(05 Jan 2023, 12:54 pm)streetdeckfan I'm currently sat in Spoons and listening to a conversation about the £2 bus fare.
They were both saying how it will still be considerably cheaper for them to get a day/weekly ticket than to buy singles.

More importantly, they said the way it's been marketed is misleading people into buying singles over a day ticket, which actually costs them more money. To be honest, I can see how that could be the case if you're not too familiar with the tickets available.

True, went on a day trip with a couple of mates who were visiting from Ireland. Was still worth it for them two to get a Day Rover each with us using 3 buses, the ferry and a metro. No worrying about prices of travel either, so we could get the bus up from the Quayside to the City Centre when we didn't fancy Dean Street after a day of walking.

10 Jan 2023, 7:07 pm #66
Took advantage of the £2 bus fare today... by using the car for part of the journey!

Did Bishop to Gateshead on the bus, then just got a lift from Gateshead.

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streetdeckfan
10 Jan 2023, 7:07 pm #66

Took advantage of the £2 bus fare today... by using the car for part of the journey!

Did Bishop to Gateshead on the bus, then just got a lift from Gateshead.

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23 Jan 2023, 5:26 pm #67
Does anyone know if there’s a list of fare zones available for Gne outside the cap?

I’m trying to pull some data together for colleague budgeting and I can’t find it anywhere,

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
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23 Jan 2023, 5:26 pm #67

Does anyone know if there’s a list of fare zones available for Gne outside the cap?

I’m trying to pull some data together for colleague budgeting and I can’t find it anywhere,


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Adrian



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25 Jan 2023, 9:06 am #68
(23 Jan 2023, 5:26 pm)Ambassador Does anyone know if there’s a list of fare zones available for Gne outside the cap?

I’m trying to pull some data together for colleague budgeting and I can’t find it anywhere,

I don't think there's any fare zones as such, other than the day/week/month tickets listed on their website, but you may find this useful for single/return fares: https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/1556

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25 Jan 2023, 9:06 am #68

(23 Jan 2023, 5:26 pm)Ambassador Does anyone know if there’s a list of fare zones available for Gne outside the cap?

I’m trying to pull some data together for colleague budgeting and I can’t find it anywhere,

I don't think there's any fare zones as such, other than the day/week/month tickets listed on their website, but you may find this useful for single/return fares: https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/1556


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25 Jan 2023, 5:17 pm #69
(25 Jan 2023, 9:06 am)Adrian I don't think there's any fare zones as such, other than the day/week/month tickets listed on their website, but you may find this useful for single/return fares: https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/1556

That's hugely useful! Trying to balance buying overflow car parking spaces vs public transport vs taxi for the next engagement budget!

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
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25 Jan 2023, 5:17 pm #69

(25 Jan 2023, 9:06 am)Adrian I don't think there's any fare zones as such, other than the day/week/month tickets listed on their website, but you may find this useful for single/return fares: https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/1556

That's hugely useful! Trying to balance buying overflow car parking spaces vs public transport vs taxi for the next engagement budget!


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Andreos1



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25 Jan 2023, 8:01 pm #70

(25 Jan 2023, 5:17 pm)Ambassador That's hugely useful! Trying to balance buying overflow car parking spaces vs public transport vs taxi for the next engagement budget!

Saw something the other day about Quorum and the travel needs of employees there (including questions about other things). It's an interesting one.

https://forms.office.com/e/Bcuvs34ScW
Edited 25 Jan 2023, 8:02 pm by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
25 Jan 2023, 8:01 pm #70


(25 Jan 2023, 5:17 pm)Ambassador That's hugely useful! Trying to balance buying overflow car parking spaces vs public transport vs taxi for the next engagement budget!

Saw something the other day about Quorum and the travel needs of employees there (including questions about other things). It's an interesting one.

https://forms.office.com/e/Bcuvs34ScW


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Drifter60



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26 Jan 2023, 2:07 am #71
(25 Jan 2023, 9:06 am)Adrian I don't think there's any fare zones as such, other than the day/week/month tickets listed on their website, but you may find this useful for single/return fares: https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/1556

it’s the ‘short hop’ fares I can’t believe. Parkside to Seaham, £2.10 single for an 8 minute journey but Parkside to Sunderland City Centre, £2.30 for a 40 minute journey. 2 miles vs 8 miles the difference 20p! I appreciate that actually quite a few fares were decreased in various schemes and fare caps, which is good news but I still think it seems like you’re ripped off just travelling locally. A similar short hop fare should be introduced.
Drifter60
26 Jan 2023, 2:07 am #71

(25 Jan 2023, 9:06 am)Adrian I don't think there's any fare zones as such, other than the day/week/month tickets listed on their website, but you may find this useful for single/return fares: https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/1556

it’s the ‘short hop’ fares I can’t believe. Parkside to Seaham, £2.10 single for an 8 minute journey but Parkside to Sunderland City Centre, £2.30 for a 40 minute journey. 2 miles vs 8 miles the difference 20p! I appreciate that actually quite a few fares were decreased in various schemes and fare caps, which is good news but I still think it seems like you’re ripped off just travelling locally. A similar short hop fare should be introduced.

26 Jan 2023, 6:14 am #72
(26 Jan 2023, 2:07 am)Drifter60 it’s the ‘short hop’ fares I can’t believe. Parkside to Seaham, £2.10 single for an 8 minute journey but Parkside to Sunderland City Centre, £2.30 for a 40 minute journey. 2 miles vs 8 miles the difference 20p! I appreciate that actually quite a few fares were decreased in various schemes and fare caps, which is good news but I still think it seems like you’re ripped off just travelling locally. A similar short hop fare should be introduced.

It's £1.90 to from Morpeth - Stobhill which is only a mile and £3.10 to go from Morpeth - Pegswood which is 2 mile. I am suprised tey did not introduce a £1 short hop fare. Probs didn't think about it.
NEbushopper
26 Jan 2023, 6:14 am #72

(26 Jan 2023, 2:07 am)Drifter60 it’s the ‘short hop’ fares I can’t believe. Parkside to Seaham, £2.10 single for an 8 minute journey but Parkside to Sunderland City Centre, £2.30 for a 40 minute journey. 2 miles vs 8 miles the difference 20p! I appreciate that actually quite a few fares were decreased in various schemes and fare caps, which is good news but I still think it seems like you’re ripped off just travelling locally. A similar short hop fare should be introduced.

It's £1.90 to from Morpeth - Stobhill which is only a mile and £3.10 to go from Morpeth - Pegswood which is 2 mile. I am suprised tey did not introduce a £1 short hop fare. Probs didn't think about it.

16 Feb 2023, 7:49 am #73
Have GNE put the price of short singles up to make them £2?

X21 used to be a fixed price (£1.80 most recent I think) anywhere from West Auckland to Bishop, now it's £2 from Tindale to Bishop with GNE, but still only £1.50 on Arriva

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streetdeckfan
16 Feb 2023, 7:49 am #73

Have GNE put the price of short singles up to make them £2?

X21 used to be a fixed price (£1.80 most recent I think) anywhere from West Auckland to Bishop, now it's £2 from Tindale to Bishop with GNE, but still only £1.50 on Arriva

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16 Feb 2023, 8:30 am #74
(16 Feb 2023, 7:49 am)streetdeckfan Have GNE put the price of short singles up to make them £2?

X21 used to be a fixed price (£1.80 most recent I think) anywhere from West Auckland to Bishop, now it's £2 from Tindale to Bishop with GNE, but still only £1.50 on Arriva

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No, any fares below £2 remain as such under the fare cap.


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16 Feb 2023, 8:30 am #74

(16 Feb 2023, 7:49 am)streetdeckfan Have GNE put the price of short singles up to make them £2?

X21 used to be a fixed price (£1.80 most recent I think) anywhere from West Auckland to Bishop, now it's £2 from Tindale to Bishop with GNE, but still only £1.50 on Arriva

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No, any fares below £2 remain as such under the fare cap.


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16 Feb 2023, 9:21 am #75
(16 Feb 2023, 7:49 am)streetdeckfan Have GNE put the price of short singles up to make them £2?

X21 used to be a fixed price (£1.80 most recent I think) anywhere from West Auckland to Bishop, now it's £2 from Tindale to Bishop with GNE, but still only £1.50 on Arriva

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There was of course a price increase before this £2 cap came in, so the £1.80 fare may have disappeared during that?

Have a look at the dataset here, as you can still see the fare tables that aren't currently being used (due to the cap): https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/711

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16 Feb 2023, 9:21 am #75

(16 Feb 2023, 7:49 am)streetdeckfan Have GNE put the price of short singles up to make them £2?

X21 used to be a fixed price (£1.80 most recent I think) anywhere from West Auckland to Bishop, now it's £2 from Tindale to Bishop with GNE, but still only £1.50 on Arriva

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There was of course a price increase before this £2 cap came in, so the £1.80 fare may have disappeared during that?

Have a look at the dataset here, as you can still see the fare tables that aren't currently being used (due to the cap): https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/711


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17 Feb 2023, 4:29 pm #76
The £2 bus fare cap on single journeys in England is to be extended until the end of June.

And we’ve also committed £80 million to protect vital bus services

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2-bus...ew-funding


https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/statu...6896713729

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
17 Feb 2023, 4:29 pm #76

The £2 bus fare cap on single journeys in England is to be extended until the end of June.

And we’ve also committed £80 million to protect vital bus services

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2-bus...ew-funding


https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/statu...6896713729


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

17 Feb 2023, 5:09 pm #77
(17 Feb 2023, 4:29 pm)Michael The £2 bus fare cap on single journeys in England is to be extended until the end of June.

And we’ve also committed £80 million to protect vital bus services

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2-bus...ew-funding


https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/statu...6896713729

"bus fare cap to be extended for 3 months, backed by up to £75 million to help passengers save money and Get Around For £2
government also confirms up to £80 million to continue support for critical bus services around England
lifeline funding takes total to more than £2 billion since March 2020" 

You'd think someone woukdve realised that the current way of laziness, cut, bail and tax for bus services doesn't work. Actually no Im not surprised haha
logidoodah
17 Feb 2023, 5:09 pm #77

(17 Feb 2023, 4:29 pm)Michael The £2 bus fare cap on single journeys in England is to be extended until the end of June.

And we’ve also committed £80 million to protect vital bus services

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2-bus...ew-funding


https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/statu...6896713729

"bus fare cap to be extended for 3 months, backed by up to £75 million to help passengers save money and Get Around For £2
government also confirms up to £80 million to continue support for critical bus services around England
lifeline funding takes total to more than £2 billion since March 2020" 

You'd think someone woukdve realised that the current way of laziness, cut, bail and tax for bus services doesn't work. Actually no Im not surprised haha

idiot



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17 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm #78
Been charged £2 from stadium to John Street. Sure it was £1.80?
idiot
17 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm #78

Been charged £2 from stadium to John Street. Sure it was £1.80?

17 Feb 2023, 6:38 pm #79
(17 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm)idiot Been charged £2 from stadium to John Street. Sure it was £1.80?

£2.10 pre cap on GNE, hasn't been £1.80 for about a year.
deanmachine
17 Feb 2023, 6:38 pm #79

(17 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm)idiot Been charged £2 from stadium to John Street. Sure it was £1.80?

£2.10 pre cap on GNE, hasn't been £1.80 for about a year.

17 Feb 2023, 11:14 pm #80
(17 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm)idiot Been charged £2 from stadium to John Street. Sure it was £1.80?

Would be £1.80 on any Stagecoach bus
Madmackem22
17 Feb 2023, 11:14 pm #80

(17 Feb 2023, 5:27 pm)idiot Been charged £2 from stadium to John Street. Sure it was £1.80?

Would be £1.80 on any Stagecoach bus

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