Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
I would like to put forward a couple of suggestions for Stagecoach in South Shields.
To compliment the successful X34 Horsley Hill - Newcastle also introduce an additional Newcastle service of the X33, operating Low Simonside, Simonside, Biddick Hall, Boldon Asda, Gateshead, Newcastle.
Service X33 would provide a combined 15 minute service between Biddick Hall, Chuter Ede School, Boldon and Newcastle with service X34.
This would then provide competition to GNE services X3/X36
Also a reintroduction of the old Metrocentre service M42 between South Shields and the Metrocentre
(27 Jul 2013, 8:40 pm)Wellsey18 I think stagecoach should look at new routes inside of north Tyneside like beyond Wallsend into battle hill and the other areas they don't currently serve
(27 Jul 2013, 8:40 pm)Wellsey18 I think stagecoach should look at new routes inside of north Tyneside like beyond Wallsend into battle hill and the other areas they don't currently serve
I think that stagecoach is losing opportunity to create increased patronage - here are my ideas
extend the 10 and or the 11 to Kingston Park via Fawdon providing North Kenton with new links
extend alternate x47 to Red House Farm and Wansbeck road fawdon loop
withdraw route 6 and 8 and improve route 7 to every 20 mins all day
withdraw 35 reroute service 30 via coxlodge to salters road
extend 33 from hollywood Ave to Wallsend and Walker via Freeman and on the irregular route 3 20-30 min frequency and eves alternatively extend the 38 on an Gosforth loop every 20 mins in both directions to replace service 33
(07 Aug 2013, 3:59 pm)RJL66 I think that stagecoach is losing opportunity to create increased patronage - here are my ideas
extend the 10 and or the 11 to Kingston Park via Fawdon providing North Kenton with new links
extend alternate x47 to Red House Farm and Wansbeck road fawdon loop
withdraw route 6 and 8 and improve route 7 to every 20 mins all day
withdraw 35 reroute service 30 via coxlodge to salters road
extend 33 from hollywood Ave to Wallsend and Walker via Freeman and on the irregular route 3 20-30 min frequency and eves alternatively extend the 38 on an Gosforth loop every 20 mins in both directions to replace service 33
(07 Aug 2013, 3:59 pm)RJL66 I think that stagecoach is losing opportunity to create increased patronage - here are my ideas
extend the 10 and or the 11 to Kingston Park via Fawdon providing North Kenton with new links
extend alternate x47 to Red House Farm and Wansbeck road fawdon loop
withdraw route 6 and 8 and improve route 7 to every 20 mins all day
withdraw 35 reroute service 30 via coxlodge to salters road
extend 33 from hollywood Ave to Wallsend and Walker via Freeman and on the irregular route 3 20-30 min frequency and eves alternatively extend the 38 on an Gosforth loop every 20 mins in both directions to replace service 33
Just out of interest, why do Stagecoach in Sunderland stay within the City boundary I.e The Board Inn to the West and Seaburn and Grangetown to the North and South respectively.
Would it be worth it to try branch out a bit and say extend there patch to Ryhope, Seaham and beyond.
I do remember years ago before Stagecoach bought busways that busways had a couple of services in Murton, the 155 Murton Circular and the 149 Murton-Seaham service on a Sunday
(08 Aug 2013, 5:15 pm)fozzovmurton Just out of interest, why do Stagecoach in Sunderland stay within the City boundary I.e The Board Inn to the West and Seaburn and Grangetown to the North and South respectively.
Would it be worth it to try branch out a bit and say extend there patch to Ryhope, Seaham and beyond.
I do remember years ago before Stagecoach bought busways that busways had a couple of services in Murton, the 155 Murton Circular and the 149 Murton-Seaham service on a Sunday
(08 Aug 2013, 5:15 pm)fozzovmurton Just out of interest, why do Stagecoach in Sunderland stay within the City boundary I.e The Board Inn to the West and Seaburn and Grangetown to the North and South respectively.
Would it be worth it to try branch out a bit and say extend there patch to Ryhope, Seaham and beyond.
I do remember years ago before Stagecoach bought busways that busways had a couple of services in Murton, the 155 Murton Circular and the 149 Murton-Seaham service on a Sunday
I would like to see stagecoach expand out of the Sunderland area but Murton/seaham/Boldon ASDA are all GNE now so don't think they would risk it.
Plus with Stagecoach merging most of their services together it seems to of worked for them...
Out of all the services in Sunderland -
3,4,12,13,16,20,23 all run every 10 mins during the week
10/11 is every 15 mins - 7/8 mins on some parts of the route
18/19 - every 30 mins
5/5A - 30 mins
39 (Contract) - 30 mins
X1 peak times every 20 mins.
E1/E2/E6 - every 20 mins each - 7/8 min service on some parts of the routes.
3,4,16,20 - all run every 20 mins on a Sunday now.
I wish they would expand but don't think they will they have cemented them self's right in to Sunderland
(08 Aug 2013, 5:15 pm)fozzovmurton Just out of interest, why do Stagecoach in Sunderland stay within the City boundary I.e The Board Inn to the West and Seaburn and Grangetown to the North and South respectively.
Would it be worth it to try branch out a bit and say extend there patch to Ryhope, Seaham and beyond.
I do remember years ago before Stagecoach bought busways that busways had a couple of services in Murton, the 155 Murton Circular and the 149 Murton-Seaham service on a Sunday
(08 Aug 2013, 5:15 pm)fozzovmurton Just out of interest, why do Stagecoach in Sunderland stay within the City boundary I.e The Board Inn to the West and Seaburn and Grangetown to the North and South respectively.
Would it be worth it to try branch out a bit and say extend there patch to Ryhope, Seaham and beyond.
I do remember years ago before Stagecoach bought busways that busways had a couple of services in Murton, the 155 Murton Circular and the 149 Murton-Seaham service on a Sunday
Yeah, Favourite, what I remember about it, was its livery, Orange, Cream and Brown iirc..
I didn't realise they were stabled at Hetton.
Sunderland-Hartlepool is an interesting though as the Arriva 23 is turd and Pygalls look like a waste of Space with there medieval single Decker, there former gne yellow Decker and the flying banana I saw today
(08 Aug 2013, 5:34 pm)fozzovmurton Yeah, Favourite, what I remember about it, was its livery, Orange, Cream and Brown iirc..
I didn't realise they were stabled at Hetton.
Sunderland-Hartlepool is an interesting though as the Arriva 23 is turd and Pygalls look like a waste of Space with there medieval single Decker, there former gne yellow Decker and the flying banana I saw today
(08 Aug 2013, 5:34 pm)fozzovmurton Yeah, Favourite, what I remember about it, was its livery, Orange, Cream and Brown iirc..
I didn't realise they were stabled at Hetton.
Sunderland-Hartlepool is an interesting though as the Arriva 23 is turd and Pygalls look like a waste of Space with there medieval single Decker, there former gne yellow Decker and the flying banana I saw today
I wonder how much of it is politics.
We all know about the investigations into route fixing etc., could this be part of it?
It's not as if Stagecoach as an organisation only know how to run city centre services. There will be money to be made, very strange they have never gone about doing it.
I know it may sound utterly absurd, but I have heard a couple of drivers pretty much come up with quite a funny rumour
That bosses do deals with each other in the 19th after 18 holes of Golf or on the turn of a card.
I have wondered if politics comes into it, if they have gentlemens agreements and handshakes that sees them divide areas among themselves while competing at the same time
Who knows what happens and whether it happens in the 19th hole, we do know that Arriva drivers are fed raw meat though!
Tyresmoke will be able to confirm whether its sirloin, rump or roadkill
www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/arriva-go-north-east-secret-4419286
(08 Aug 2013, 6:31 pm)Andreos1 I wonder how much of it is politics.
We all know about the investigations into route fixing etc., could this be part of it?
It's not as if Stagecoach as an organisation only know how to run city centre services. There will be money to be made, very strange they have never gone about doing it.
(08 Aug 2013, 6:31 pm)Andreos1 I wonder how much of it is politics.
We all know about the investigations into route fixing etc., could this be part of it?
It's not as if Stagecoach as an organisation only know how to run city centre services. There will be money to be made, very strange they have never gone about doing it.
(07 Aug 2013, 5:16 pm)stagecoachbusdepot(07 Aug 2013, 3:59 pm)RJL66 I think that stagecoach is losing opportunity to create increased patronage - here are my ideas
extend the 10 and or the 11 to Kingston Park via Fawdon providing North Kenton with new links
extend alternate x47 to Red House Farm and Wansbeck road fawdon loop
withdraw route 6 and 8 and improve route 7 to every 20 mins all day
withdraw 35 reroute service 30 via coxlodge to salters road
extend 33 from hollywood Ave to Wallsend and Walker via Freeman and on the irregular route 3 20-30 min frequency and eves alternatively extend the 38 on an Gosforth loop every 20 mins in both directions to replace service 33
Withdrawing the 6 & 8 and "improving" the 7 to every 20 mins would lead to a reduced frequency for the common parts of the routes compared to now, with the 6 & 7 each running every 30 mins!
Not sure about the suggestions for the 10/11/X47 either - though I have for a long time thought that the 10 and 11 should be reworked to extend from North Kenton via Kenton Lane to Ponteland Road and City Centre as that end of Kenton Lane has a really poor service into town (the small bit that is served just has the 15/15A which are infrequent and meander through Blakelaw & Fenham, while the 32/32A do a tedious tour of the whole of Newcastle).
(07 Aug 2013, 5:16 pm)stagecoachbusdepot(07 Aug 2013, 3:59 pm)RJL66 I think that stagecoach is losing opportunity to create increased patronage - here are my ideas
extend the 10 and or the 11 to Kingston Park via Fawdon providing North Kenton with new links
extend alternate x47 to Red House Farm and Wansbeck road fawdon loop
withdraw route 6 and 8 and improve route 7 to every 20 mins all day
withdraw 35 reroute service 30 via coxlodge to salters road
extend 33 from hollywood Ave to Wallsend and Walker via Freeman and on the irregular route 3 20-30 min frequency and eves alternatively extend the 38 on an Gosforth loop every 20 mins in both directions to replace service 33
Withdrawing the 6 & 8 and "improving" the 7 to every 20 mins would lead to a reduced frequency for the common parts of the routes compared to now, with the 6 & 7 each running every 30 mins!
Not sure about the suggestions for the 10/11/X47 either - though I have for a long time thought that the 10 and 11 should be reworked to extend from North Kenton via Kenton Lane to Ponteland Road and City Centre as that end of Kenton Lane has a really poor service into town (the small bit that is served just has the 15/15A which are infrequent and meander through Blakelaw & Fenham, while the 32/32A do a tedious tour of the whole of Newcastle).
(11 Aug 2013, 10:57 am)RJL66(07 Aug 2013, 5:16 pm)stagecoachbusdepot(07 Aug 2013, 3:59 pm)RJL66 I think that stagecoach is losing opportunity to create increased patronage - here are my ideas
extend the 10 and or the 11 to Kingston Park via Fawdon providing North Kenton with new links
extend alternate x47 to Red House Farm and Wansbeck road fawdon loop
withdraw route 6 and 8 and improve route 7 to every 20 mins all day
withdraw 35 reroute service 30 via coxlodge to salters road
extend 33 from hollywood Ave to Wallsend and Walker via Freeman and on the irregular route 3 20-30 min frequency and eves alternatively extend the 38 on an Gosforth loop every 20 mins in both directions to replace service 33
Withdrawing the 6 & 8 and "improving" the 7 to every 20 mins would lead to a reduced frequency for the common parts of the routes compared to now, with the 6 & 7 each running every 30 mins!
Not sure about the suggestions for the 10/11/X47 either - though I have for a long time thought that the 10 and 11 should be reworked to extend from North Kenton via Kenton Lane to Ponteland Road and City Centre as that end of Kenton Lane has a really poor service into town (the small bit that is served just has the 15/15A which are infrequent and meander through Blakelaw & Fenham, while the 32/32A do a tedious tour of the whole of Newcastle).
Well I was not getting into semantics! But I do believe I would divert the 7 around blakelaw road and that really would reduce the loss of service drastically and the section of the 6 aropund kingston park could be covered by creative option of the X47 !
(11 Aug 2013, 10:57 am)RJL66(07 Aug 2013, 5:16 pm)stagecoachbusdepot(07 Aug 2013, 3:59 pm)RJL66 I think that stagecoach is losing opportunity to create increased patronage - here are my ideas
extend the 10 and or the 11 to Kingston Park via Fawdon providing North Kenton with new links
extend alternate x47 to Red House Farm and Wansbeck road fawdon loop
withdraw route 6 and 8 and improve route 7 to every 20 mins all day
withdraw 35 reroute service 30 via coxlodge to salters road
extend 33 from hollywood Ave to Wallsend and Walker via Freeman and on the irregular route 3 20-30 min frequency and eves alternatively extend the 38 on an Gosforth loop every 20 mins in both directions to replace service 33
Withdrawing the 6 & 8 and "improving" the 7 to every 20 mins would lead to a reduced frequency for the common parts of the routes compared to now, with the 6 & 7 each running every 30 mins!
Not sure about the suggestions for the 10/11/X47 either - though I have for a long time thought that the 10 and 11 should be reworked to extend from North Kenton via Kenton Lane to Ponteland Road and City Centre as that end of Kenton Lane has a really poor service into town (the small bit that is served just has the 15/15A which are infrequent and meander through Blakelaw & Fenham, while the 32/32A do a tedious tour of the whole of Newcastle).
Well I was not getting into semantics! But I do believe I would divert the 7 around blakelaw road and that really would reduce the loss of service drastically and the section of the 6 aropund kingston park could be covered by creative option of the X47 !
Stagecoach in Sunderland should introduce the service 21 again but make a few change's - make it a loop service and introduce it like the 18/19...
21 >>>> - Theme road - Tilbury road - Tay road - Greenwood Road - Chester road - Pennywell road - Portchester road - Palgrove road - Hylton road - Fort Field road - Ford road - Fordenbridge lane - Hylton road - St Mary's - Holmeside - Hospital - Barnes Park road - Durham road - Townsend road - Theme road.... 22 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Half hourly routes -
21 - Anti Clockwise
22 - Clockwise
Would take 50 mins - would require 4 buses
Not sure i had a right fight on with Google maps, i gave up.. haha