New technology in buses
New technology in buses
Im currently on a bus for the first time since March, on a route I’m not familiar with & of course it’s NSAs aren’t working (6116).
Is it not part of the morning vehicle checks to ensure the system is working before it’s taken out, or would there not necessarily be enough spares lying around to replace it with for a fault deemed as unimportant as NSAs?
(15 Aug 2020, 8:26 am)ne14ne1 Im currently on a bus for the first time since March, on a route I’m not familiar with & of course it’s NSAs aren’t working (6116).
Is it not part of the morning vehicle checks to ensure the system is working before it’s taken out, or would there not necessarily be enough spares lying around to replace it with for a fault deemed as unimportant as NSAs?
(15 Aug 2020, 8:26 am)ne14ne1 Im currently on a bus for the first time since March, on a route I’m not familiar with & of course it’s NSAs aren’t working (6116).
Is it not part of the morning vehicle checks to ensure the system is working before it’s taken out, or would there not necessarily be enough spares lying around to replace it with for a fault deemed as unimportant as NSAs?
(15 Aug 2020, 10:36 am)Dan Yes, it is part of the first use check but it's not safety critical therefore would not stop the vehicle from going on the road.A common issue that I've seen with the NSAs is the buses seem to think they're somewhere else, I've lost count of the amount of times I've been on the X21 and the NSA has been stuck at Newcastle or Durham. Or the display will be stuck and the sound is still fine.
Even if it did, the replacement vehicle would likely be an OmniDekka which doesn't have Next Stop Announcements fitted anyway, so you might as well still have 6116 out there (which at least provides Wi-Fi, more comfortable seats, tables, charging points, etc).
Hanover's service engineer repaired the Next Stop Announcement fault on 6116 on Wednesday, and the system was working fine when he left it.
(15 Aug 2020, 10:36 am)Dan Yes, it is part of the first use check but it's not safety critical therefore would not stop the vehicle from going on the road.A common issue that I've seen with the NSAs is the buses seem to think they're somewhere else, I've lost count of the amount of times I've been on the X21 and the NSA has been stuck at Newcastle or Durham. Or the display will be stuck and the sound is still fine.
Even if it did, the replacement vehicle would likely be an OmniDekka which doesn't have Next Stop Announcements fitted anyway, so you might as well still have 6116 out there (which at least provides Wi-Fi, more comfortable seats, tables, charging points, etc).
Hanover's service engineer repaired the Next Stop Announcement fault on 6116 on Wednesday, and the system was working fine when he left it.
(15 Aug 2020, 10:36 am)Dan Yes, it is part of the first use check but it's not safety critical therefore would not stop the vehicle from going on the road.
Even if it did, the replacement vehicle would likely be an OmniDekka which doesn't have Next Stop Announcements fitted anyway, so you might as well still have 6116 out there (which at least provides Wi-Fi, more comfortable seats, tables, charging points, etc).
Hanover's service engineer repaired the Next Stop Announcement fault on 6116 on Wednesday, and the system was working fine when he left it.
(15 Aug 2020, 10:36 am)Dan Yes, it is part of the first use check but it's not safety critical therefore would not stop the vehicle from going on the road.
Even if it did, the replacement vehicle would likely be an OmniDekka which doesn't have Next Stop Announcements fitted anyway, so you might as well still have 6116 out there (which at least provides Wi-Fi, more comfortable seats, tables, charging points, etc).
Hanover's service engineer repaired the Next Stop Announcement fault on 6116 on Wednesday, and the system was working fine when he left it.
(15 Aug 2020, 10:36 am)Dan Yes, it is part of the first use check but it's not safety critical therefore would not stop the vehicle from going on the road.How would the first driver check NSA’s in the depot?
Even if it did, the replacement vehicle would likely be an OmniDekka which doesn't have Next Stop Announcements fitted anyway, so you might as well still have 6116 out there (which at least provides Wi-Fi, more comfortable seats, tables, charging points, etc).
Hanover's service engineer repaired the Next Stop Announcement fault on 6116 on Wednesday, and the system was working fine when he left it.
(15 Aug 2020, 10:36 am)Dan Yes, it is part of the first use check but it's not safety critical therefore would not stop the vehicle from going on the road.How would the first driver check NSA’s in the depot?
Even if it did, the replacement vehicle would likely be an OmniDekka which doesn't have Next Stop Announcements fitted anyway, so you might as well still have 6116 out there (which at least provides Wi-Fi, more comfortable seats, tables, charging points, etc).
Hanover's service engineer repaired the Next Stop Announcement fault on 6116 on Wednesday, and the system was working fine when he left it.
(16 Aug 2020, 12:50 am)Bazza How would the first driver check NSA’s in the depot?
(16 Aug 2020, 12:50 am)Bazza How would the first driver check NSA’s in the depot?
I listened to a podcast this morning which guest starred Emma Hignett.
As it was transport related they talked about her voice over work with TFL and discussed next stop announcements on London Buses. Interestingly she said that for London they wanted to give out the essential information people needed, while not annoying people or giving out too much information, hence it was kept to the route number & destination as the buses depart a stop, and the name of the upcoming stop as it is approached, (plus the prerecorded messages the driver can play manually if needed).
They then discussed how other cities have since decided to prefix the stop announcements with "Next Stop", or "The next stop is" (or "This is the X service to Y", rather than simply "X, to, Y"), which they thought was unnecessary as the audience knows what it is you're announcing, and it becomes very repetitive sounding and more likely to either annoy people or make them less likely to tune into the vital bit i.e. the stop name, as they've made the announcements all start off sounding the same. They pointed out in any other context you would never start every paragraph or sentence with the same thing, would you.
I just thought it was interesting, and I agree. I would certainly drop off the "Next stop," bit as that does get annoying hearing it over and over in such close secession. If it was purely the stop name it wouldn't sound so repetitive.
(09 Nov 2020, 12:27 pm)ne14ne1 I listened to a podcast this morning which guest starred Emma Hignett.
As it was transport related they talked about her voice over work with TFL and discussed next stop announcements on London Buses. Interestingly she said that for London they wanted to give out the essential information people needed, while not annoying people or giving out too much information, hence it was kept to the route number & destination as the buses depart a stop, and the name of the upcoming stop as it is approached, (plus the prerecorded messages the driver can play manually if needed).
They then discussed how other cities have since decided to prefix the stop announcements with "Next Stop", or "The next stop is" (or "This is the X service to Y", rather than simply "X, to, Y"), which they thought was unnecessary as the audience knows what it is you're announcing, and it becomes very repetitive sounding and more likely to either annoy people or make them less likely to tune into the vital bit i.e. the stop name, as they've made the announcements all start off sounding the same. They pointed out in any other context you would never start every paragraph or sentence with the same thing, would you.
I just thought it was interesting, and I agree. I would certainly drop off the "Next stop," bit as that does get annoying hearing it over and over in such close secession. If it was purely the stop name it wouldn't sound so repetitive.
(09 Nov 2020, 12:27 pm)ne14ne1 I listened to a podcast this morning which guest starred Emma Hignett.
As it was transport related they talked about her voice over work with TFL and discussed next stop announcements on London Buses. Interestingly she said that for London they wanted to give out the essential information people needed, while not annoying people or giving out too much information, hence it was kept to the route number & destination as the buses depart a stop, and the name of the upcoming stop as it is approached, (plus the prerecorded messages the driver can play manually if needed).
They then discussed how other cities have since decided to prefix the stop announcements with "Next Stop", or "The next stop is" (or "This is the X service to Y", rather than simply "X, to, Y"), which they thought was unnecessary as the audience knows what it is you're announcing, and it becomes very repetitive sounding and more likely to either annoy people or make them less likely to tune into the vital bit i.e. the stop name, as they've made the announcements all start off sounding the same. They pointed out in any other context you would never start every paragraph or sentence with the same thing, would you.
I just thought it was interesting, and I agree. I would certainly drop off the "Next stop," bit as that does get annoying hearing it over and over in such close secession. If it was purely the stop name it wouldn't sound so repetitive.