(23 Dec 2023, 8:12 pm)mb134 That's possibly the worst case for everyone though? 

P&R punters aren't guaranteed a seat on busy services into town in the morning, and actual GNE passengers might not get a seat on their bus home in the evening as they've been behind P&R users in the queue (all dependent on how well used the site is). 

Obviously it'll add time to all of the services that pass through the MetroCentre too, which I assume will either mean an increase in PVR on all services or reduced layover and thus reduced reliability?

(23 Dec 2023, 9:47 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Re: park and Ride Newcastle to Metrocentre

Wouldn't this be an excellent time to bring back to life the Service 100  run as it did before  except at the metrocentre it stops at the coach park and not in the interchange

Restoring a number that people know especially with car drivers could be the key.

At least if it does go to metrocentre it keeps the customers already on congested transport an opportunity for a seat

(23 Dec 2023, 4:54 pm)Aaron21 So I wanna put this here. If this consultation was a success and the Q3 is cut from Osborne Road. Does this drop the Pvr by 2 buses. If this was the case. With the new Great Park Road opened. Could this now be the chance for the Q3 to go to Kingston Park as I know this was mental a while ago

(23 Dec 2023, 10:09 pm)Storx Honestly not too sure, I'd assume Nexus will just save the money though. There's currently 3 subsidies on the Q3, I believe. One is obviously Osbourne Road (no longer paid), the Wallsend extension but not sure what the third is, Great Park I'd assume. If Nexus want to pay for it, it could happen otherwise I can't see it.

Personally the best thing Nexus could do is redirect the 342 via the Great Park rather than Hazlerigg and no-where, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet tbh. Would offer some handy links for more people. Should be doable without any PVR changes, I'd assume most people from Dudley etc would prefer those links, unless they like going dogging.

(23 Dec 2023, 10:54 pm)Thomas12 Q3 is a disgraceful service considering it has that many subsidies, never turns up half of the time.

(24 Dec 2023, 6:51 pm)Michael Wonder if the X20 will be every 30 mins then the 20/20A every 20 mins each so they would combine for a service every 10 mins on certain sections of the route.

(24 Dec 2023, 6:59 pm)Storx Confused here, you mean them staying both every 30 minutes and combining for 6 BPH?

(23 Dec 2023, 11:18 pm)logidoodah considering it is run by some of the newest buses in the road too!

(23 Dec 2023, 9:47 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Re: park and Ride Newcastle to Metrocentre

Wouldn't this be an excellent time to bring back to life the Service 100  run as it did before  except at the metrocentre it stops at the coach park and not in the interchange

Restoring a number that people know especially with car drivers could be the key.

At least if it does go to metrocentre it keeps the customers already on congested transport an opportunity for a seat

(24 Dec 2023, 6:51 pm)Michael Wonder if the X20 will be every 30 mins then the 20/20A every 30 mins each so they would combine for a service every 10 mins on certain sections of the route.

Edit: Typo!

(24 Dec 2023, 9:31 pm)Iamtheone8483748 So will the X20 not be running on evenings & sundays?

(24 Dec 2023, 9:27 pm)Retro Nero Service 20 will be every 15 minutes day time with 2 per hour interworking with service 65 and every hour evenings and Sunday. 

Service 20A running on an evening and Sunday 1 per hour.

Service X20 running every 30 minutes with peak times serving Doxford International.

(24 Dec 2023, 9:54 pm)Michael Shame the 20A is dropped again during the day, I take it, the 20 or X20 will be diverted that way during the day?

Edit:

Will X20 be timed between the 20 to make it every 7 mins between Park Lane and Barnes Park for example.

(24 Dec 2023, 10:08 pm)Retro Nero X20 will serve Dairy Lane & Rainton Bridge.

(23 Dec 2023, 10:09 pm)Storx Honestly not too sure, I'd assume Nexus will just save the money though. There's currently 3 subsidies on the Q3, I believe. One is obviously Osbourne Road (no longer paid), the Wallsend extension but not sure what the third is, Great Park I'd assume. If Nexus want to pay for it, it could happen otherwise I can't see it.

Personally the best thing Nexus could do is redirect the 342 via the Great Park rather than Hazlerigg and no-where, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet tbh. Would offer some handy links for more people. Should be doable without any PVR changes, I'd assume most people from Dudley etc would prefer those links, unless they like going dogging.

(23 Dec 2023, 3:26 pm)DeltaMan Some would say the difference is that Stagecoach aren't using public money to restore something that was previously a commercial service. It is a genuine improvement. 

Whereas in the examples given, it *APPEARS* that Arriva and GNE are wanting to use public money to pay for services which were clearly commercial before they were reduced for staffing reasons.  

It might be allowed by the letter of BSIP. But I don't think it's within the spirit of it, personally.

(22 Dec 2023, 5:52 pm)L469 YVK Realistically, branding needs to go IMO. Serves no purpose especially in the current climate.

Only routes that really need branded........

- XLines - Generic - Express buses across the North East
X10, X21, X30, X31

- CityLink
21, 56

- CoastCityLinks (in conjunction with Arriva)
306, 307, 308, 309

- CityConnect
Q3, 53, 54

Rest can go IMO including the X45 going back to 45 and 47 becoming the 46.

(23 Dec 2023, 2:26 pm)Aaron21 Can't wait to read "With funding from Nexus & The BSIP" we will be bringing back the X20.