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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - L469 YVK - 24 Feb 2022
Another idea for down the line, if the later X9 journeys prove to be popular, would there be scope for the addition of a 23:35 departure Mondays-Saturdays?
Quite a few areas served nearby by the X10/X11 but also some other areas including new build developments where the later service could prove popular.
I'm probably jumping the gun a bit to be fair haha, but if Arriva do it properly including marketing particularly around Cowpen & Bebside to win over the punters who have been extremely p****d off with 10 years of s***e with the X5/X8 including those who've perhaps walked away, they could be on a nice little goldmine. Obviously not as big money as the X10/X11 but will be extremely popular. Very exciting times!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - L469 YVK - 24 Feb 2022
Thinking about it, Arriva could actually get rid of the X8. And although it wouldn't reduce the total PVR, it would streamline the 'X' routes as well as creating a few handy links. See screenshot for timing sample, don't know how the evening & Sunday interworking patterns would happen with the 52/53:
Timing Sample -
- X9 (as of 27/03) - interworks with X10/X11 - combined PVR of 13x
- X7 - Monday to Saturday daytime frequency increased to every 20 minutes, no route change - PVR of 7x
- X8 - withdrawn and replaced in parts by X7/42/43A
- 42 - Same route as current 43 between Newcastle and Dudley Weetslade Road then to Cramlington via Fern Drive, Annitsford and High Pit. Every 30 minutes Monday to Saturday daytime, hourly evenings & Sundays - PVR of 4x
- 43 - Same route as current 43 to Morpeth (Cramlington only evenings & Sundays). Will operate hourly 7 days per week (combining up to every 30 minutes with 43A and up to every 15 minutes with 42 & 43A). - PVR of 5x (43/43A)
- 43A - Same route as current 43 to Cramlington then same route as the X8 (as of 27/03) to Blyth. Will operate hourly Monday to Saturday daytime (combining up to every 30 minutes with 43 and up to every 15 minutes with 42 & 43). Mid evening journeys & Sunday daytime journeys will also operate hourly but only between Blyth & Cramlington, with special through-fares available for journeys to and from Newcastle with changes at Cramlington. - PVR of 5x (43/43A)
With the slack timing on the 42, they could even be naughty and serve the entrance of the Northumbria Emergency Care Hospital, creating even more links!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - omnicity4659 - 24 Feb 2022
Would be easier to divert the 43 from Bedlington/Morpeth to just run half hourly to Blyth via Bebside, Cowpen and Isabella.
I'd also extend the 57A from Cramlington to Bedlington, or even onwards to Morpeth via Red House Farm, to provide a half hourly frequency between the Bedlington and Cramlington. Perhaps send the 57A via Shankhouse and Bedlington Bank.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 24 Feb 2022
There's the timetables btw. The X8 really is a bizarre route imo I still think it's setup to fail. Not serving Eastfield Drive in Cramlington, not serving Amersham Drive in Blyth to name 2. They're definitely trying to push people to the X7/X9.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - L469 YVK - 24 Feb 2022
(24 Feb 2022, 7:19 pm)Storx There's the timetables btw. The X8 really is a bizarre route imo I still think it's setup to fail. Not serving Eastfield Drive in Cramlington, not serving Amersham Drive in Blyth to name 2. They're definitely trying to push people to the X7/X9.IMO, the X8 is deadwood and it could do with replacement to streamline the Blyth 'X' routes and actually open up some handy links. The 42/43/43A would open up:
- High Pit, NSECH, Annitsford to Dudley, Seaton Burn, Wideopen, Gosforth and Newcastle. Also there being a 'direct' service from Newcastle to NESCH. Could even add an extra stop on the hospital approach road to attract residents living in the Barley Meadows Estate.
- Blyth, South Beach, Shankhouse and Parkside to Dudley, Seaton Burn and Wideopen.
The 42 would also have a hell of a lot of time to play with even serving NESCH meaning most conjestion at Moor Farm roundabout shouldn't be a problem.
NOTE: Apologies to the mods for posting a suggestion in this thread. However, I did feel it was relevant given the changes to the X8
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 24 Feb 2022
(24 Feb 2022, 7:37 pm)L469 YVK IMO, the X8 is deadwood and it could do with replacement to streamline the Blyth 'X' routes and actually open up some handy links. The 42/43/43A would open up:
- High Pit, NSECH, Annitsford to Dudley, Seaton Burn, Wideopen, Gosforth and Newcastle. Also there being a 'direct' service from Newcastle to NESCH. Could even add an extra stop on the hospital approach road to attract residents living in the Barley Meadows Estate.
- Blyth, South Beach, Shankhouse and Parkside to Dudley, Seaton Burn and Wideopen.
The 42 would also have a hell of a lot of time to play with even serving NESCH meaning most conjestion at Moor Farm roundabout shouldn't be a problem.
NOTE: Apologies to the mods for posting a suggestion in this thread. However, I did feel it was relevant given the changes to the X8
I didn't want to derail another thread but I'd say the 52 would be the better choice it could do it's current route until Fern Drive, run along there to Annitsford then do the new X8 route to Blyth. It's pretty much the same route as it anyway, would help with the interworking patterns when the 52/53/54 move to Blyth. Could do the 52/54 direct from the depot and have the 53 working alone like it did for years as the 343/344. Could possibly extend it to Morpeth again aswell. Would give loads of new links to near the business park at Annitsford which is very heavily rumoured to be another Amazon site soon.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - L469 YVK - 24 Feb 2022
(24 Feb 2022, 7:53 pm)Storx I didn't want to derail another thread but I'd say the 52 would be the better choice it could do it's current route until Fern Drive, run along there to Annitsford then do the new X8 route to Blyth.Good suggestion. Only issue I can foresee is a significant increase in travel times to and from Newcastle, from the lower parts of High Pit and Annitsford. However, if ticketing & other data showed the demand to and from Newcastle didn't really exist, it wouldn't be a bad shout.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 24 Feb 2022
(24 Feb 2022, 9:12 pm)L469 YVK Good suggestion. Only issue I can foresee is a significant increase in travel times to and from Newcastle, from the lower parts of High Pit and Annitsford. However, if ticketing & other data showed the demand to and from Newcastle didn't really exist, it wouldn't be a bad shout.
Aye I was thinking that but possibly could divert the X20 along there similar to the old X25/X26 and give them a proper express hourly or the slow 52 every 30 minutes / hourly evening (better than nothing which what they're getting).
I know it'll add time to the X20 but it's very quiet most the time anyway tbh.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 01 Mar 2022
Service Changes Registered on VOSA
Revised timetable: 2, 6, 7 (Durham), 7 (Yarm), 8, 15, 56, 57/57A, 64, 86, X12, X93
As mentioned in the Northumbria Tenders thread: X14, X15, X18 (58 withdrawn or re-contracted)
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 01 Mar 2022
I wonder if this means a potential end to 40+ minute gaps in service on a route that used to have 6 buses per hour (the 64)
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Andreos1 - 01 Mar 2022
(01 Mar 2022, 9:12 pm)BusLoverMum I wonder if this means a potential end to 40+ minute gaps in service on a route that used to have 6 buses per hour (the 64)If they crack it, they might be able to give some tips to the depot up the A1 that runs the X1.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Dan - 01 Mar 2022
(01 Mar 2022, 9:23 pm)Andreos1 If they crack it, they might be able to give some tips to the depot up the A1 that runs the X1.
Give over, man, Andreos… this is the Arriva thread! Not every discussion has to be about Go North East, and you don’t need to use every post as an opportunity to have a pop! People will start to think you’re obsessed!
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Andreos1 - 01 Mar 2022
(01 Mar 2022, 9:29 pm)Dan Give over, man, Andreos… this is the Arriva thread! Not every discussion has to be about Go North East, and you don’t need to use every post as an opportunity to have a pop! People will start to think you’re obsessed!Obsessed? Me? Never.
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - lloyd647 - 02 Mar 2022
Which part of the x18 route is changing next month.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Jimmi - 02 Mar 2022
Diversion of X26/X27 from March 13th 2022 for an estimated 6 weeks: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/-diversion-of-service-x26/x27
Due to the closure of the A6108 between Skeeby and Richmond, owing to an estimated six weeks of electricity works, regrettably we’re forced to revise the route and timetable of Services X26 and X27
During this time, services will operate their usual routes between Darlington and Scotch Corner. However, due to the closure and the inability to safely operate via any other route, all journeys will instead then operate direct to Colburn and Catterick via the A1(M) before continuing to and terminating in Richmond.
As a result of this, a significant revision to the service timetable is required, along with some changes to the routes and stopping locations within Catterick, Kemmel and Colburn.
Due to the increased journey time required to observe this diversion route, this does mean that we’re unable to offer service to everywhere that would normally have access to Service X26 and X27. Areas affected that will not see an Arriva service during this six week closure are: Skeeby, Darlington Road and Queens Road in Richmond, plus Hipswell Village and Catterick Village/Marne Barracks.
Northern Powergrid are expected to arrange a demand responsive taxi service to connect with services at either Richmond or Scotch Corner depending on which section of A6108 is closed. We will update this information as soon we know more.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 03 Mar 2022
Newcastle and North Tyneside timetables from 27th March are now available here.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Train8261 - 03 Mar 2022
Interesting on the 54 into the Cobalt
Don't understand the X7/X8/X9 changes at all
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 03 Mar 2022
(03 Mar 2022, 11:10 am)Train8261 Interesting on the 54 into the Cobalt
Don't understand the X7/X8/X9 changes at all
I believe it's been suggested that Bebside will get a faster journey to Newcastle at 46 minutes compared to the current 53 minutes to get some groundwork prior to competition from the Northumberland Line.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - ASX_Terranova - 03 Mar 2022
(03 Mar 2022, 11:23 am)peter I believe it's been suggested that Bebside will get a faster journey to Newcastle at 30 minutes compared to the current 53 minutes to get some groundwork prior to competition from the Northumberland Line.
In the timetable the X9 timed at 46 minutes from Bebeside, if arriva really wanted a fast express they should make it skip cramlington and run it non-stop via A189
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 03 Mar 2022
(03 Mar 2022, 1:36 pm)ASX_Terranova In the timetable the X9 timed at 46 minutes from Bebeside, if arriva really wanted a fast express they should make it skip cramlington and run it non-stop via A189
So it is, not sure where I plucked 30 minutes from - not that much faster but it's still something I suppose.
Also worth noting the 46/46A will now interwork with 51/51A