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RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Andreos1 - 31 Dec 2015
Just today, I noticed a Streetlite on an X3A, having a rear blind OOA.
I think it was 6028, but it was displaying 'Easington Lane' earlier.
edit: It appears underline doesn't work. Either way, the 'Easing' part of Easington, was underlined.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Dan - 31 Dec 2015
(31 Dec 2015, 3:25 pm)Andreos1 I think it was 6028, but it was displaying 'Easington Lane' earlier.
edit: It appears underline doesn't work. Either way, the 'Easing' part of Easington, was underlined.
Yes, it's 6028 with that issue (see photo below). It developed the fault in the summer of 2014 and hasn't been fixed yet - Hanover need to come out and look at replacing the panel of LEDs it affects. The colour panel has also developed a problem since, which is why some red LEDs are shown in the route number (not shown on the photo below).
![[Image: 16559047459_373146fb22.jpg]](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7620/16559047459_373146fb22.jpg)
Go North East: 6028 / V328LGC by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - omnicity4659 - 01 Jan 2016
Most of Travelsure's vehicles weren't displaying destinations on Wednesday, just a board in the window. Only saw one working.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - BusLoverMum - 01 Jan 2016
(31 Dec 2015, 2:24 pm)Adrian It'll be interesting to see if any depots send non-compliant vehicles out on the 2nd. If the worst comes to the worst, do they send a bus with a knackered rear destination out, or just bite the bullet and record the lost mileage?
Have you been round the depots to do an audit, Dan? I'd noticed a MAN yesterday, where the illumination on the front flipdot wasn't working. That wouldn't be 'ready', would it?
The number on the front of the whey aye five o (5256) we caught the other day was flickering. We did mention it to the driver, but got a blank look.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - citaro5284 - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 7:39 pm)BusLoverMum The number on the front of the whey aye five o (5256) we caught the other day was flickering. We did mention it to the driver, but got a blank look.
Ta
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - pdiddy - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 8:00 pm)citaro5284 Ta
From tomorrow 2nd Jan....
What happens if for eg.
Scarlet Band have a bus out that's not DDA say with the destination number on the wrong side
Do they get fined!!!
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - DanPicken - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:08 pm)pdiddy From tomorrow 2nd Jan....
What happens if for eg.
Scarlet Band have a bus out that's not DDA say with the destination number on the wrong side
Do they get fined!!!
Yes.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - BusLoverMum - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:09 pm)DanPicken Yes.
How would it be policed?
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - citaro5284 - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:08 pm)pdiddy From tomorrow 2nd Jan....
What happens if for eg.
Scarlet Band have a bus out that's not DDA say with the destination number on the wrong side
Do they get fined!!!
I cannot remember if the number on the nearside comes under a 'regulation' or 'best practice'.
If its under best practice, then no, but if it is a regulation, then possible, but I doubt they will get fined (or any other operator) in the first instance.
(01 Jan 2016, 9:13 pm)BusLoverMum How would it be policed?
DVSA Officials.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Adrian - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:13 pm)BusLoverMum How would it be policed?
DVSA should be policing it through spot checks. Not sure whether this will also be covered as part of an MOT going forward though?
It's always going to be a case that people will report it too, so I can't see any operators running the risk.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - LeeCalder - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:16 pm)citaro5284 I cannot remember if the number on the nearside comes under a 'regulation' or 'best practice'.
If its under best practice, then no, but if it is a regulation, then possible, but I doubt they will get fined (or any other operator) in the first instance.
VOSA Officials.
I believe it says that the number 'should' be on the nearside.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - DanPicken - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:19 pm)LeeCalder I believe it says that the number 'should' be on the nearside.
Trent Barton aren't good at that I know alot of theirs are/were on the wrong side.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Adrian - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:16 pm)citaro5284 I cannot remember if the number on the nearside comes under a 'regulation' or 'best practice'.
If its under best practice, then no, but if it is a regulation, then possible, but I doubt they will get fined (or any other operator) in the first instance.
DVSA Officials.
I wonder how Trent Barton will get away with not displaying a route number at all?
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - LeeCalder - 01 Jan 2016
Apparently it is DDA, because they don't have route numbers they replace it mainly with an abbreviation of the brand name and then the places served.
TransPeak do the same, with the abbreviation as TP.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - citaro5284 - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:16 pm)citaro5284 I cannot remember if the number on the nearside comes under a 'regulation' or 'best practice'.
If its under best practice, then no, but if it is a regulation, then possible, but I doubt they will get fined (or any other operator) in the first instance.
(01 Jan 2016, 9:19 pm)LeeCalder I believe it says that the number 'should' be on the nearside.
I have found it....it is under best practice:
Best Practice
A good destination and route number display will be clearly legible by day and night and commercial advertising should not detract from them. A consistent display design is also helpful, therefore the route number should always be to the right of the destination when viewed. Other major points on the route can be included but they should not detract from the clarity of the ultimate destination. Destination displays which simultaneously show both ends of a route are confusing and should be avoided. The destination appropriate to the direction of travel should be displayed or if a circular route such information necessary to identify the direction of travel.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - LeeCalder - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:21 pm)DanPicken Trent Barton aren't good at that I know alot of theirs are/were on the wrong side.
A lot of them? There are only seven routes with numbers...
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - BusLoverMum - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:17 pm)He Adrian DVSA should be policing it through spot checks. Not sure whether this will also be covered as part of an MOT going forward though?
It's always going to be a case that people will report it too, so I can't see any operators running the risk.
I can see how reports will be made, though I'm doubting most of joe public will even aware of the requirements.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - citaro5284 - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:22 pm)Adrian I wonder how Trent Barton will get away with not displaying a route number at all?
The route will not be registered with a route number.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - Adrian - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:26 pm)BusLoverMum I can see how reports will be made, though I'm doubting most of joe public will even aware of the requirements.
It'll be spotters that do it.
RE: PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance - DanPicken - 01 Jan 2016
(01 Jan 2016, 9:26 pm)LeeCalder A lot of them? There are only seven routes with numbers...
With however many buses allocated.