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RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 29 May 2016

(29 May 2016, 11:29 am)Tamesider A further update. The person reporting 10584 in service has since corrected their report. The sighting was 10582. This was on the 201 service yesterday evening (the first sighting of a '16 reg away from Wilmslow Road corridor services), and I can confirm it is registered SN16 OTX (not 'OTV which is 10580). It now seems certain that the ones used at Hyde Road (10578/80/2) are only on loan, whilst some of their own buses are at Wentworth, Exeter and will then be needed for the Parklife festival on 11/12th June. They will then become Ashton buses, where its reported they are intended to run 216 (in competition with Metrolink) and 330 (Ashton-Hyde-Stockport) which overall will require around 20 buses. 10579 is the only other of the batch confirmed delivered, but it is believed at least 4 more were due this weekend.

This post on 'Stagecoach Enthusiasts' Facebook Group by the source of all the registrations so far this year might put to rest this notion that 10578-97 are for Ashton

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RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Malarkey - 29 May 2016

(24 May 2016, 8:35 pm)Kuyoyo Update with registrations for the latest batches of E400MMCs plus confirmation of the Manchester depots

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10578-10590 (SN16 OTR/S/T/U/V/W/Y/Z, OUA/B/C/D/E): Hyde Road
10591-10630: Split between Hyde Road and Ashton
When are the E400MMCs for Manchester due to enter service?


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 29 May 2016

(29 May 2016, 12:39 pm)Malarkey When are the E400MMCs for Manchester due to enter service?

10578-80/2 are now in service - although reportedly for the 38 (Farmworth-Manchester Royal Infirmary) they have been used on most Hyde Road operated routes. The rest are in the process of delivery.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Malarkey - 29 May 2016

(29 May 2016, 12:56 pm)Kuyoyo 10578-80/2 are now in service - although reportedly for the 38 (Farmworth-Manchester Royal Infirmary) they have been used on most Hyde Road operated routes. The rest are in the process of delivery.

Thanks Tony, think I wil go ahead and book a trip down to Manchester on Friday in that case.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Tamesider - 29 May 2016

(29 May 2016, 12:18 pm)Kuyoyo This post on 'Stagecoach Enthusiasts' Facebook Group by the source of all the registrations so far this year might put to rest this notion that 10578-97 are for Ashton

My initial information on allocations came from a very reliable source within Stagecoach Manchester, albeit he did not mention which order the buses would be allocated. More recent information which (give or take the odd one or two buses) is supposed to have come from an internal publicaton called "The Loop" which quotes 31 buses for AZ; 9 for HE and finally 13 for ST. Thiere has been absolutely no mention locally about 20 buses being for the 38 (currently run with 17 buses), but if so, it will have the pro-franchise lobby rubbing their hands with glee at such an "own goal".


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Tamesider - 29 May 2016

(29 May 2016, 12:56 pm)Kuyoyo 10578-80/2 are now in service - although reportedly for the 38 (Farmworth-Manchester Royal Infirmary) they have been used on most Hyde Road operated routes. The rest are in the process of delivery.

The only examples to see service so far are 10578/80/2, and 10580 has already been taken out of service. 10579 was at Ashton - presumably for VF - but has now been brought to Hyde Road for preperation. Notwithstanding, various events and where buses will be allocated to, I would very much doubt more than about 8 buses will be in service by the end of next week, so anyone wanting to see the first 20, never mind the full batch, should hold off for a few weeks.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - NK53 TKT - 29 May 2016

(29 May 2016, 11:41 am)Kuyoyo Update - amendments to registrations of the Manchester E400MMCs

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10511-10525 (SN16 OLU/V/W/X, OMA/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/O): Glasgow.
10526-10533 (SN16 OMP/R/S/T/U/V/W/X): Aberdeen (Jet Livery)
10534-10551 (SN16 OMY/Z, ONA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/P/R/S/T): Gillmoss

10552-10563 (SN16 ONU/V/W/X/Z, OOA/B/C/E/F/G/H): Kendal/Morecambe
10564-10577 (SN16 OSZ, OTA/B/C/D/E/F/G/J/K/L/M/O/P): Gillmoss
10578-10597 (SN16 OTS/U/V/W/X/Y/Z, OUA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O): Hyde Road
10598-10630: Split between Hyde Road and Ashton
10631-10654: Newcastle
10655-10663: Barnsley
10664-10666: Worksop
10667-10687: Oxford
10688-10697: Exeter
10698-10700: Winchester
10701-10725: Folkestone
10726-10733: Leamington 
10734-10748: Hull
10749-10760: Cheltenham
10761-10778: Aldershot
10779-10788: Oxford.

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26041-26049: Winchester.
26050-26062: Chester.
26063-26080: Slatyford.
26081-26087: Chesterfield.
26088-26111: Porth.

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37431-37439 (SN16 OPV/W/X/Z, ORC/F/G/H/J): Kings Lynn
37440-37444: Rock Ferry.

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48031-48036: Kings Lynn

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54284: East Scotland.

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54277-54283: Rugby.

Volvo B11RT/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54331-54333: East Scotland
54334-54341: West Scotland

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6 London
36609-36621: Bromley

Alexander Dennis Enviro400H MMC Euro6 London
12364-12401: Plumstead

Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45
44001-44030: TBC

I hope these get put on the 122 Big Grin


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Ebs - 31 May 2016

Two E200MMC bodied buses in Chester Park & Ride livery tonight outside AD Falkirk, registered SN16OPF/OPH.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - moose2001 - 01 Jun 2016

10578 on 330 service (Ashton depot) today (1st June).

There have been one or two of the green hybrids around on this service for a while, but none at all today.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - enrag2000 - 01 Jun 2016

(31 May 2016, 8:31 pm)Ebs Two E200MMC bodied buses in Chester Park & Ride livery tonight outside AD Falkirk, registered SN16OPF/OPH.

No sign of any of Cumbria's E400MMCs for the 555 yet?


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 03 Jun 2016

Update - the first of the full length Enviro200MMCs are in the process of delivery

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10511-10525 (SN16 OLU/V/W/X, OMA/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/O): Glasgow.
10526-10533 (SN16 OMP/R/S/T/U/V/W/X): Aberdeen (Jet Livery)
10534-10551 (SN16 OMY/Z, ONA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/P/R/S/T): Gillmoss

10552-10563 (SN16 ONU/V/W/X/Z, OOA/B/C/E/F/G/H): Kendal/Morecambe
10564-10577 (SN16 OSZ, OTA/B/C/D/E/F/G/J/K/L/M/O/P): Gillmoss
10578-10597 (SN16 OTS/U/V/W/X/Y/Z, OUA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O): Manchester
10598-10630: Manchester
10631-10654: Newcastle
10655-10663: Barnsley
10664-10666: Worksop
10667-10687: Oxford
10688-10697: Exeter
10698-10700: Winchester
10701-10725: Folkestone
10726-10733: Leamington 
10734-10748: Hull
10749-10760: Cheltenham
10761-10778: Aldershot
10779-10788: Oxford.

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26041-26049 (SN16 OOJ/U/V/W/X/Y, OPA/B/C): Winchester
26050-26062: Chester
26063-26080: Slatyford
26081-26087: Chesterfield
26088-26111: Porth

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37431-37439 (SN16 OPV/W/X/Z, ORC/F/G/H/J): Kings Lynn
37440-37444: Rock Ferry.

Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48031-48036: Kings Lynn

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54284: East Scotland.

Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54277-54283: Rugby.

Volvo B11RT/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54331-54333: East Scotland
54334-54341: West Scotland

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6 London
36609-36621: Bromley

Alexander Dennis Enviro400H MMC Euro6 London
12364-12401: Plumstead

Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45
44001-44030: TBC

Three of Chester's E200MMCs have also been delivered to Gilmoss and are SN16 OPD/F/G - fleetnumbers to be confirmed as yet.
[Image: 26827651404_030f617898_c.jpg]Stagecoach SN16OPG Gillmoss depot, 3 June 2016 by DMC1947, on Flickr


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Tamesider - 04 Jun 2016

(01 Jun 2016, 11:02 am)moose2001 10578 on 330 service (Ashton depot) today (1st June).

There have been one or two of the green hybrids around on this service for a while, but none at all today.

StevenKnightMedia reports that 10582 is now working from Ashton, and I understand further examples have been seen on the 330 route today.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - S813 FVK - 04 Jun 2016

Would it be possible to convert some of the Enviro 400s that will be replaced at Newcastle to Open Top to replace the Olympians on City Sightseeing duties? Seems like a good opportunity to do so eventhough it looks like where they are being displaced to seems to have been taken care of already.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Malarkey - 04 Jun 2016

(04 Jun 2016, 5:53 pm)S813 FVK Would it be possible to convert some of the Enviro 400s that will be replaced at Newcastle to Open Top to replace the Olympians on City Sightseeing duties? Seems like a good opportunity to do so eventhough it looks like where they are being displaced to seems to have been taken care of already.

I agree, I would rather see E400s converted than having Ex London Stock etc running around on the City Sight Seeing Service.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - South Tyne Lad - 04 Jun 2016

(04 Jun 2016, 5:57 pm)Malarkey I agree, I would rather see E400s converted than having Ex London Stock etc running around on the City Sight Seeing Service.

(04 Jun 2016, 5:53 pm)S813 FVK Would it be possible to convert some of the Enviro 400s that will be replaced at Newcastle to Open Top to replace the Olympians on City Sightseeing duties? Seems like a good opportunity to do so eventhough it looks like where they are being displaced to seems to have been taken care of already.

But certainly they could be put to much better use upgrading capacity on single decker routes in Newcastle?, Routes 10,11,30 and 31 come to mind.
And isn't the City Sightseeing a contract? if it is then Stagecoach arnt going to use middle aged E400s when they can make more money from them on Commercial Work.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - S813 FVK - 04 Jun 2016

(04 Jun 2016, 6:05 pm)South Tyne Lad But certainly they could be put to much better use upgrading capacity on single decker routes in Newcastle?, Routes 10,11,30 and 31 come to mind.
And isn't the City Sightseeing a contract? if it is then Stagecoach arnt going to use middle aged E400s when they can make more money from them on Commercial Work.

I think City Sightseeing is a franchise (same model as McDonalds etc if I have got the name wrong) as opposed to a contract.

I'm sure that replacing non-DDA vehicles is high up the list too which is why I suggested it.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - South Tyne Lad - 04 Jun 2016

(04 Jun 2016, 6:09 pm)S813 FVK I think City Sightseeing is a franchise (same model as McDonalds etc if I have got the name wrong) as opposed to a contract.

I'm sure that replacing non-DDA vehicles is high up the list too which is why I suggested it.

Aye I think you could be right, Though I still doubt E400s will be in favour over Tridents.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Malarkey - 05 Jun 2016

(03 Jun 2016, 10:24 pm)Kuyoyo Update - the first of the full length Enviro200MMCs are in the process of delivery

Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26041-26049 (SN16 OOJ/U/V/W/X/Y, OPA/B/C): Winchester

26045 - SN16 OOX in Winchester P&R Livery.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/103374223@N04/27472239775/


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Tamesider - 05 Jun 2016

(04 Jun 2016, 2:04 pm)Tamesider StevenKnightMedia reports that 10582 is now working from Ashton, and I understand further examples have been seen on the 330 route today.

Accumulating various sources; 10578-82/4/5 had all been seen on the 330 by yesterday, and 10583 has almost certainly arrived at Ashton depot after prep work at HE. From photos of 10579/85 it looks like the seating is identical to 10534-51. I understand further examples have been delivered to Hyde Road for prep work, whilst their entry in to service at Ashton has allowed at least two Euro4s to leave for repainting into MagicBus colours.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - moose2001 - 05 Jun 2016

(04 Jun 2016, 2:04 pm)Tamesider StevenKnightMedia reports that 10582 is now working from Ashton, and I understand further examples have been seen on the 330 route today.

I have been away all weekend so I'll take your word for it. 10579 was on the 330 route Friday. I'll see what tomorrow brings.