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RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - moose2001 - 06 Jun 2016

I was lucky enough to take a trip on 10579 today. Massive upgrade to the previous Enviros on this 330 route. Not sure if this is the place for observations about passenger experience so I'll leave that for now.

Also seen 15082-15084 on 330 today.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Tamesider - 06 Jun 2016

(06 Jun 2016, 1:22 pm)moose2001 I was lucky enough to take a trip on 10579 today. Massive upgrade to the previous Enviros on this 330 route. Not sure if this is the place for observations about passenger experience so I'll leave that for now.

Also seen 15082-15084 on 330 today.

Coincidentally, I made a rare trip into Ashton today, and sampled 10584. They are marginally more comfortable than a standard E400/MMC, but being tallish I found the concave shape of the seat back a bit uncomfortable. I also wonder if they will deteriorate badly like First's e-plastic examples of 2012 vintage. 10579/82 were indeed also on the 330, but 10583 (first report of being in service) was on a Manchester route - with 10585 on the other, and 10580 on the 347. If the concensus that AZ will eventually receive 31 of the type proves correct, then surely it will be the 347 that joins 216 & 330 in having the type allocated as the norm, with the 219 finally reverting to a proper Hybrid route.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Ebs - 08 Jun 2016

Another of the Chester Park & Ride buses, SN16OPK, was outside AD Falkirk this evening.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Malarkey - 10 Jun 2016

(03 Jun 2016, 10:24 pm)Kuyoyo Update - the first of the full length Enviro200MMCs are in the process of delivery

Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10552-10563 (SN16 ONU/V/W/X/Z, OOA/B/C/E/F/G/H): Kendal/Morecambe
The first of Kendal/Morecambes E400MMCs have been spotted on delivery.
10552 (SN16 ONU) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidsbusphotos/27485996912/in/dateposted/
10553 (SN16 ONV) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidsbusphotos/27485984762/in/dateposted/
10555 (SN16 ONX) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidsbusphotos/27307914470/in/dateposted/


Also seen on Delivery was 10595 (SN16 OUL) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidsbusphotos/27512172821/in/photostream/

Photos by David Oakley.


RE: Stagecoach North East: 2015 Order Predictions - NK05 GWZ - 10 Jun 2016

Has anything been mentioned about the 2016 order of E200/400MMC's due for Slatyford and Walkergate (respectively)? What are they going to be used on and withdrawing?


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - South Tyne Lad - 10 Jun 2016

(10 Jun 2016, 10:00 pm)NK05 GWZ Has anything been mentioned about the 2016 order of E200/400MMC's due for Slatyford and Walkergate (respectively)? What are they going to be used on and withdrawing?

The E400MMC's are being split between Slatyford and Walkergate, Which heavily hints that they be used on Services 62/63, As the PVR is split between the two.
The E200MMC's are all for Slatyford, And nothings been said about which route there on, Though id hint at either Services 10/11 or 30/31.

They should be withdrawing MAN 18.220 / ALX300s I believe.

EDIT removed from 2015 Predictions thread


RE: Stagecoach North East: 2015 Order Predictions - Dan - 11 Jun 2016

(10 Jun 2016, 10:00 pm)NK05 GWZ Has anything been mentioned about the 2016 order of E200/400MMC's due for Slatyford and Walkergate (respectively)? What are they going to be used on and withdrawing?

Not yet, but one of Walkergate's E400s was seen at the Wheatsheaf yesterday undergoing repaint... Presumably ahead of their impending cascade to another route - tarting them up a little.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - NK53 TKT - 11 Jun 2016

(10 Jun 2016, 10:10 pm)South Tyne Lad The E400MMC's are being split between Slatyford and Walkergate, Which heavily hints that they be used on Services 62/63, As the PVR is split between the two.
The E200MMC's are all for Slatyford, And nothings been said about which route there on, Though id hint at either Services 10/11 or 30/31.

They should be withdrawing MAN 18.220 / ALX300s I believe.

EDIT removed from 2015 Predictions thread
I like to think the E200MMCs will be on the 6/7/8/32/32A/30/31 Tongue  
And the E400MMCs will go on the 1 and X63, however this isn't true Sad


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - NK05 GWZ - 12 Jun 2016

Cheers guys, I can understand the 62/63 although I would think some of the E200MMC's will go onto the 100, it's in desperate need of some decent vehicles; those E300's are wrecked!


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - biglugs@yahoo.com - 12 Jun 2016

(12 Jun 2016, 9:22 pm)NK05 GWZ Cheers guys, I can understand the 62/63 although I would think some of the E200MMC's will go onto the 100, it's in desperate need of some decent vehicles; those E300's are wrecked!

Theyd be good on the 35


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 12 Jun 2016

(12 Jun 2016, 9:22 pm)NK05 GWZ Cheers guys, I can understand the 62/63 although I would think some of the E200MMC's will go onto the 100, it's in desperate need of some decent vehicles; those E300's are wrecked!

There's a reason 27506-10 are still (and will likely remain on) the 100 - there's nothing on the market long enough or with similar capacity to replace them.

(12 Jun 2016, 9:25 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Theyd be good on the 35

The E200MMCs are the 11.8m version - so you can discount the 32/32A or the 35 as allocation.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 12 Jun 2016

(10 Jun 2016, 10:10 pm)South Tyne Lad The E400MMC's are being split between Slatyford and Walkergate, Which heavily hints that they be used on Services 62/63, As the PVR is split between the two.
The E200MMC's are all for Slatyford, And nothings been said about which route there on, Though id hint at either Services 10/11 or 30/31.

They should be withdrawing MAN 18.220 / ALX300s I believe.

EDIT removed from 2015 Predictions thread

As for them all replacing Slatyford's MANs, given the amount of current rumors about destinations, it looks like a large number of E400s are leaving Newcastle - Stockton is currently rumored to get 8, 15 are apparently destined for Cumbria and East Midlands are also a rumored destination.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - NK53 TKT - 12 Jun 2016

(12 Jun 2016, 10:02 pm)Kuyoyo As for them all replacing Slatyford's MANs, given the amount of current rumors about destinations, it looks like a large number of E400s are leaving Newcastle - Stockton is currently rumored to get 8, 15 are apparently destined for Cumbria and East Midlands are also a rumored destination.

Any known depots, just I may want to catch them as I like the 53 Reg MANs at Slatyford


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 12 Jun 2016

(12 Jun 2016, 10:24 pm)NK53 TKT Any known depots, just I may want to catch them as I like the 53 Reg MANs at Slatyford

I think you have crossed wires - the Enviro400s the new MMCs are displacing are expected to be cascaded not the MANs.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Andreos1 - 13 Jun 2016

(12 Jun 2016, 10:02 pm)Kuyoyo As for them all replacing Slatyford's MANs, given the amount of current rumors about destinations, it looks like a large number of E400s are leaving Newcastle - Stockton is currently rumored to get 8, 15 are apparently destined for Cumbria and East Midlands are also a rumored destination.

Lincoln have quite a few older deckers and I assume will be receiving some new/newer vehicles to replace these.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 13 Jun 2016

(13 Jun 2016, 10:24 am)Andreos1 Lincoln have quite a few older deckers and I assume will be receiving some new/newer vehicles to replace these.

Supposed to be - for that rumored list, remove Stockton and add Yorkshire. I understand 24 Enviro400s will be leaving Newcastle once the 24 E400MMCs have entered service, and a three way split between Cumbria, Yorkshire and the East Midlands fleet will take place.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - South Tyne Lad - 13 Jun 2016

(13 Jun 2016, 10:35 am)Kuyoyo Supposed to be - for that rumored list, remove Stockton and add Yorkshire. I understand 24 Enviro400s will be leaving Newcastle once the 24 E400MMCs have entered service, and a three way split between Cumbria, Yorkshire and the East Midlands fleet will take place.

As for that then, It will be a mix of non wifi'ed 07 and 57 reg batchs that's more likely to leave, As 19141-19156 have had Wifi and minor refurbs ( seat retrims etc ) So could indicate there here for the long term.

Slatyford will probably loose 19157-19162 ( 6 ) as theve had nothing done on them, And correct me if I'm wrong, But Slatyford have less boards on the 62/63.
Walkergate will loose any of 19193-19219, Though 19194,96 and 97 will probably stay to cover unavailable Club 22 E400s. 19163 will more or less head out of the door.

Yorkshire will more likely be Barnsley? Then they could replace the former Yorkshire Traction Omnidekkas.
Cumbria could be Carlisle to replace the 555 Tridents, Which updates the brand along with the E400MMCs replacing the Scania E400s, The rest will replace other Tridents ( which I believe Carlisle have a few more too )
East Midlands could be Lincoln, As they indeed have a few aging deckers, Though 1 or 2 could end up at the likes of Skegness, Grimbsy etc.

All rumors at the minute but now that I think about it, Its more likely to happen with all these Olympians and Tridents that need replacing elsewhere.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 13 Jun 2016

(13 Jun 2016, 4:50 pm)South Tyne Lad As for that then, It will be a mix of non wifi'ed 07 and 57 reg batchs that's more likely to leave, As 19141-19156 have had Wifi and minor refurbs ( seat retrims etc ) So could indicate there here for the long term.

Slatyford will probably loose 19157-19162 ( 6 ) as theve had nothing done on them, And correct me if I'm wrong, But Slatyford have less boards on the 62/63.
Walkergate will loose any of 19193-19219, Though 19194,96 and 97 will probably stay to cover unavailable Club 22 E400s. 19163 will more or less head out of the door.

Yorkshire will more likely be Barnsley? Then they could replace the former Yorkshire Traction Omnidekkas.
Cumbria could be Carlisle to replace the 555 Tridents, Which updates the brand along with the E400MMCs replacing the Scania E400s, The rest will replace other Tridents ( which I believe Carlisle have a few more too )
East Midlands could be Lincoln, As they indeed have a few aging deckers, Though 1 or 2 could end up at the likes of Skegness, Grimbsy etc.

All rumors at the minute but now that I think about it, Its more likely to happen with all these Olympians and Tridents that need replacing elsewhere.

19141-63/93 are the one I understand down to be leaving the region, as they are are the oldest examples. 19141-8 are the only one that have a known destination - they are the ones off to the North West. East Midlands is almost certainly Lincolnshire area to replace Tridents.

As for Yorkshire, I wouldn't be too surprised if they don't end up at one of the Sheffield depots to increase capacity there.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Andreos1 - 13 Jun 2016

(13 Jun 2016, 4:50 pm)South Tyne Lad As for that then, It will be a mix of non wifi'ed 07 and 57 reg batchs that's more likely to leave, As 19141-19156 have had Wifi and minor refurbs ( seat retrims etc ) So could indicate there here for the long term.

Slatyford will probably loose 19157-19162 ( 6 ) as theve had nothing done on them, And correct me if I'm wrong, But Slatyford have less boards on the 62/63.
Walkergate will loose any of 19193-19219, Though 19194,96 and 97 will probably stay to cover unavailable Club 22 E400s. 19163 will more or less head out of the door.

Yorkshire will more likely be Barnsley? Then they could replace the former Yorkshire Traction Omnidekkas.
Cumbria could be Carlisle to replace the 555 Tridents, Which updates the brand along with the E400MMCs replacing the Scania E400s, The rest will replace other Tridents ( which I believe Carlisle have a few more too )
East Midlands could be Lincoln, As they indeed have a few aging deckers, Though 1 or 2 could end up at the likes of Skegness, Grimbsy etc.

All rumors at the minute but now that I think about it, Its more likely to happen with all these Olympians and Tridents that need replacing elsewhere.

Which is why I think Lincoln and some of the other depots down there will get something  (whether from this cascade or elsewhere). They have plenty of Olympians and Tridents, although I have no idea if the Tridents on IC work are DDA compliant.


RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 13 Jun 2016

(13 Jun 2016, 5:19 pm)Andreos1 Which is why I think Lincoln and some of the other depots down there will get something  (whether from this cascade or elsewhere). They have plenty of Olympians and Tridents, although I have no idea if the Tridents on IC work are DDA compliant.

BIB: They are Volvo B7TLs not Tridents. The older ones (the Y-reg ones) are the only one that will be a query - the rest of the Vykings should be DDA compliant as they are all post-2001 builds.