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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - streetdeckfan - 13 May 2022 (12 May 2022, 8:37 pm)Ambassador Anyone considered what the impact of the Eighton Lodge White Elephant….I mean park and ride will have on services? Wasn't the original plan for GNE to serve it with their existing buses that go past? Unless that's changed now there's the dedicated buses RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - omnicity4659 - 13 May 2022 (13 May 2022, 6:46 am)Storx Great Park P&R is pointless. There's one 1 mile down the road at the Regent Centre which would be twice as quick. Regent Centre has a very poor car park. I have a small SUV and I struggle to get it around all the ramps, so that's enough to not use it again. I'm against the 'pay twice' way of park and rides too. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - streetdeckfan - 13 May 2022 (13 May 2022, 11:07 am)omnicity4659 Regent Centre has a very poor car park. I have a small SUV and I struggle to get it around all the ramps, so that's enough to not use it again. I'm against the 'pay twice' way of park and rides too.The main reason we use the Durham P&R is because it's £2 for parking and a day ticket on the bus. Well, technically parking is free, but you have to have a bus ticket Sent from my AC2003 using Tapatalk RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - omnicity4659 - 13 May 2022 (13 May 2022, 11:25 am)streetdeckfan The main reason we use the Durham P&R is because it's £2 for parking and a day ticket on the bus. Well, technically parking is free, but you have to have a bus ticket Always found Durham P&R to be a good deal. The tickets were valid on the Cathedral Bus the last time I used it too. £1.20 to park at Regent Centre and £2.80 return on Arriva... £4 isn't that bad but having to pay twice would be the hassle. Especially when barely any car parks have card readers. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Storx - 13 May 2022 (13 May 2022, 11:07 am)omnicity4659 Regent Centre has a very poor car park. I have a small SUV and I struggle to get it around all the ramps, so that's enough to not use it again. I'm against the 'pay twice' way of park and rides too. Aye that's a fair point but surely it would be cheaper to just rebuild the car park there (tbf the whole Metro Station could do with being redone the interchange is pretty crap compared to others) rather than having a duplicate bus service. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 14 May 2022 39/39A - Doxford Park - Ryhope - Grangetown - Park Lane Stand E - Hylton Road - Hospital - Pennywell Pennywell - Hospital - Hylton Road - Stand H - Grangetown - Ryhope - Doxford Park 2/3 - Sunderland (stand J) - Washington (same route) One would do the 82 route from Washington one would do 85. every 12 mins, 3x 2's, 2 3's 42 - Silksworth - Grangetown - Sunderland Stand F 33 Silksworth - Barns - Sunderland Winter Gardens - Sunderland Stand A - Barns - Silkworth 20 - Durham - Sunderland 19 - Hebburn - Sunderland Via South Shields (every 15 mins between Sunderland & South Shields) 7/9 9 - Sunderland (stand R) - Bolden - jarrow (every 30 mins) 7 - Sunderland - Hylton Castle - Follingsby - Heworth Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - cbma06 - 14 May 2022 (14 May 2022, 4:05 pm)Unber43 39/39A - Doxford Park - Ryhope - Grangetown - Park Lane Stand E - Hylton Road - Hospital - Pennywell Can’t see the 39 going via Hylton road as this always been stagecoach territory. I’m surprised that the Sunderland to pennywell section hasn’t been withdrawn yet, the route is covered by other gne services and stagecoach services, passengers on nookside can get other buses from the broadway I’m surprised that service 5/9/26 hasn’t been moved to stagecoach unless there are contracted services Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 14 May 2022 (14 May 2022, 4:26 pm)cbma06 Can’t see the 39 going via Hylton road as this always been stagecoach territory.Well Stagecoach South Shield aren't exactly doing wonders with their passenger numbers. Honestly I think GNE could take over SC Sunderland network if they had the money. Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - cbma06 - 14 May 2022 (14 May 2022, 4:29 pm)Unber43 Well Stagecoach South Shield aren't exactly doing wonders with their passenger numbers. Can’t see stagecoach giving in Sunderland operations Gne already asked the availability of stagecoach operations in South Shields and Hartlepool, Hartlepool was turned down flat from the start, and South Shields was 80/20 in stagecoach favour but nothing came out of it. I wouldn’t be surprised if shields was closed down with all operations running from Sunderland as there’s enough room On the service 7 suggestion: I’m keeping that number available when the 78 gets renumbered to the 7, which should of been done years ago when the X8 got renumbered as a 8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 14 May 2022 (14 May 2022, 4:43 pm)cbma06 Can’t see stagecoach giving in Sunderland operationsif GNE duplicate all of SC routes with cheaper and advertised fares or the same fares im pretty sure they would pick GNE over SC. I know my friends who have to use SC and there family if GNE were to run routes in that area they would 100% switch. Last time i heart SC in Hartlepool's fleet are dying with mechanics trying there best. SC would probs give GNE Hartlepool and South Sheilds ops for the right money. imo it would be better for passengers. Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - cbma06 - 14 May 2022 (14 May 2022, 4:48 pm)Unber43 if GNE duplicate all of SC routes with cheaper and advertised fares or the same fares im pretty sure they would pick GNE over SC. I know my friends who have to use SC and there family if GNE were to run routes in that area they would 100% switch. GNE won’t go onto stagecoach routes , there have to work together as competition is dead in the water, especially when the bus companies have to pay share holders as profits comes first before passengers and the world has changed Don’t know how true this was but a few decades ago as a was little at the time, but when stagecoach entered first territory in Scotland, first bus decided to fight back and started to mass loads of buses on land in Gateshead area to start running competition with stagecoach Newcastle, stagecoach pulled out of first territory in Scotland, I think this was only a few years after stagecoach purchased busways, maybe there some members on here might shed some light on this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - LVK 404L - 15 May 2022 Be amazed if GNE actually opted to take over SNE South Shields ops. Given GNE or rather its predecessors closed down depots in both Jarrow and South Shields and vastly reduced their sizeable (at both times) ops. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - F114TML - 16 May 2022 Had a thought about if the Peterlee network could be changed for the better (since there's a few on here think it's at risk). I've numbered the new routes in the 86-89 series so hopefully the marketing/branding people can have a field day with the 80s puns. 62A and 201: • Merged to form a new half hourly route 88. • Additional fast journeys between Easington and Bracken Hill provided on route X88 in the peak. 87: • New route from Horden Station to Wingate, via Town Centre and Shotton Colliery. 89: • New route between Horden Station and Shotton Hall via Thorntree Gill, Town Centre and Oakerisde, replacing part of routes 209 and 210. 206: • Renumbered to 86. • Extended to Horden Station, via Crawford Avenue and Horden Hall. 209 and 210: • Withdrawn, and replaced by other routes. Services 86 and 89 interwork. The 87 is timed to co-incide with the trains. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 16 May 2022 (16 May 2022, 8:00 pm)F114TML Had a thought about if the Peterlee network could be changed for the better (since there's a few on here think it's at risk). I've numbered the new routes in the 86-89 series so hopefully the marketing/branding people can have a field day with the 80s puns.Why 80's? Surely 40's or 60's would be better. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - F114TML - 16 May 2022 (16 May 2022, 8:06 pm)Unber43 Why 80's? Surely 40's or 60's would be better.I mean, 43, 44, 45 and 46 could work. Really I was just looking on the GNE website for a large enough run of 2-digit numbers (since operators these days hate 3-digits unless it also has a letter, apparently), and found 86-89 free (didn't really fancy having a gap in them, like how it'd be with the 60s: 63, 64, 66, 68). Didn't really want to duplicate any other numbers. Btw, that map and timetable was drawn up before the latest round of cuts were announced. Only just got round to posting it here. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 16 May 2022 (16 May 2022, 8:12 pm)F114TML I mean, 43, 44, 45 and 46 could work. Really I was just looking on the GNE website for a large enough run of 2-digit numbers (since operators these days hate 3-digits unless it also has a letter, apparently), and found 86-89 free (didn't really fancy having a gap in them, like how it'd be with the 60s: 63, 64, 66, 68). Didn't really want to duplicate any other numbers.Fair, I just wondered if there was any history around Peterlee Services and the 80's digits RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - F114TML - 16 May 2022 (16 May 2022, 8:20 pm)Unber43 Fair, I just wondered if there was any history around Peterlee Services and the 80's digitsNot that I'm aware of. Actually I think they've always been numbered in the 200-series (certainly have for the last 20 years at least) but GNE's subsequent messing around with it after they bought Jayline has left the area with more non-200-series buses than 200-series buses that it just felt pointless, and given the fact these changes would basically mean the old Jayline network no longer exists, kinda felt a bit wrong numbering them in the 200s. Here's the 201 in the 90s, for example: https://thetransportlibrary.co.uk/image/catalog/N/B/C/-/NBC-21.jpg RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 16 May 2022 (16 May 2022, 8:30 pm)F114TML Not that I'm aware of. Actually I think they've always been numbered in the 200-series (certainly have for the last 20 years at least) but GNE's subsequent messing around with it after they bought Jayline has left the area with more non-200-series buses than 200-series buses that it just felt pointless, and given the fact these changes would basically mean the old Jayline network no longer exists, kinda felt a bit wrong numbering them in the 200s.After the 202 was put to the 62, 208 was withdrawn, 206 withdrawn, then brought back, then withdrawn again I think, then brought back, I like the 200 series naming for the Peterlee Services. And then you had 265, which is now the 65 RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - F114TML - 16 May 2022 The 200-series made much more sense when the network looked like this IMO Plus the DCC-operated 205 and 215. RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions v2 - Unber43 - 16 May 2022 (16 May 2022, 8:48 pm)F114TML The 200-series made much more sense when the network looked like this IMOI wish peterlee had that demand. 203 really could be introduced again to replace the 71. |