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RE: Pricing - Tom - 17 Oct 2016
He is some strange pricing -
On the Q3 from Wallsend you can get to Metrocentre (via Newcastle on the 10/10A/10B) for £3.55 a day or £11.65 a week. Yet on the 11 it is £5.90 return or £24.90 a week. Over £13 difference is a canny bit! I think they should extend the newcastle Metrocentre day/week saver on the Coaster/Blue Arrow from Wallsend as that would really have a good effect on passenger numbers competing with Stagecoach is it was advertised well.
RE: Pricing - BusLoverMum - 17 Oct 2016
(01 Aug 2016, 8:41 pm)Tamesider Yes. Standard Free v Captive market policy of the private sector - of which Stagecoach are specialists. My 87 year old Mum can no longer use conventional buses due to Arthritis, but if she could and had to go to her GP before 0930, it would cost her £1.90 for the 0.7 mile journey - as it would all other adults, of course. However, if she/we lived in (relatively) well off Swinton, a 6 mile journey into Manchester would cost just £1.20. Reason; the GP s is on a low car ownership route on which Stagecoach have a monopoly on - albeit a heavily subsidised rail line abstracts passengers in the opposite direction, to Manchester. Swinton however, is the benficiary of a bus war with First resulting from the aquisition of Finglands ifrom EYMS in early 2014.
Is that before or after 9:30 am?
RE: Pricing - Tamesider - 18 Oct 2016
(17 Oct 2016, 11:32 pm)BusLoverMum Is that before or after 9:30 am?
Full fare applies to most Concessionaries before 0930. The £1.20 fare to the west of the city (as with all Adult Stagecoach fares) apply at any time of day
RE: Pricing - Tom - 25 Nov 2016
I think the single fares have gone up on GNE as on the 1 tonight someone was charged £2.15 from Churchill Street to North Shields when it's normally £2.10 - I've seen no mention of it mind!!
RE: Pricing - Michael - 25 Nov 2016
(25 Nov 2016, 9:50 pm)Tom I think the single fares have gone up on GNE as on the 1 tonight someone was charged £2.15 from Churchill Street to North Shields when it's normally £2.10 - I've seen no mention of it mind!!
Never do now for single fares now.
RE: Pricing - Tom - 25 Nov 2016
(25 Nov 2016, 9:51 pm)Michael Never do now for single fares now.
It's pretty poor like.
RE: Pricing - GuyParkRoyal - 28 Nov 2016
(25 Nov 2016, 9:50 pm)Tom I think the single fares have gone up on GNE as on the 1 tonight someone was charged £2.15 from Churchill Street to North Shields when it's normally £2.10 - I've seen no mention of it mind!!
Go North East Fares increase from 30 November 2016 and it appears that the majority of tickets are affected exceptions being 3 Zone Buzz Fare and Transfares. The fare calculator on the Go North East website has been updated with the revised fares.
The £2.15 fare on the Coaster should not have been applied until the 30th.
RE: Pricing - Andreos1 - 28 Nov 2016
(28 Nov 2016, 11:39 am)GuyParkRoyal Go North East Fares increase from 30 November 2016 and it appears that the majority of tickets are affected exceptions being 3 Zone Buzz Fare and Transfares. The fare calculator on the Go North East website has been updated with the revised fares.Hopefully we wont see any repeat of the 5p debacle again
The £2.15 fare on the Coaster should not have been applied until the 30th.
RE: Pricing - GuyParkRoyal - 28 Nov 2016
(28 Nov 2016, 12:50 pm)Andreos1 Hopefully we wont see any repeat of the 5p debacle again
Looks like single fares are going up by 5p so lets hope that there has been a proactive approach to ordering enough 5p coins for drivers cash floats to meet demand.
RE: Pricing - Tom - 28 Nov 2016
(28 Nov 2016, 11:39 am)GuyParkRoyal Go North East Fares increase from 30 November 2016 and it appears that the majority of tickets are affected exceptions being 3 Zone Buzz Fare and Transfares. The fare calculator on the Go North East website has been updated with the revised fares.
The £2.15 fare on the Coaster should not have been applied until the 30th.
Yeah no idea how that worked- unless they updated the ticket machines early? 99.9% sure the driver said £2.15 though.
RE: Pricing - Tamesider - 28 Nov 2016
(25 Nov 2016, 9:50 pm)Tom I think the single fares have gone up on GNE as on the 1 tonight someone was charged £2.15 from Churchill Street to North Shields when it's normally £2.10 - I've seen no mention of it mind!!
According to Google that's nearly 10 miles - shurely some mishtake. Just checked Stagecoach Manchester's website for my local routes and its £2.10 for 0.5 to 1.49 miles and £2.40 for 1.5 to 2.49 miles
RE: Pricing - Tom - 28 Nov 2016
(28 Nov 2016, 10:10 pm)Tamesider According to Google that's nearly 10 miles - shurely some mishtake. Just checked Stagecoach Manchester's website for my local routes and its £2.10 for 0.5 to 1.49 miles and £2.40 for 1.5 to 2.49 miles
Not that far! Only about 4 miles. Then again you can get from Ridley Avenue to Byker for £1.50 which is about 6 miles.
Those prices are ridiculous! Do they have a monopoly in the area mentioned?
RE: Pricing - Tamesider - 29 Nov 2016
(28 Nov 2016, 10:14 pm)Tom Not that far! Only about 4 miles. Then again you can get from Ridley Avenue to Byker for £1.50 which is about 6 miles.
Those prices are ridiculous! Do they have a monopoly in the area mentioned?
They do on the sections of route mentioned, but even when competition was at its highest in the 1990s, very few services in GM saw fare reductions. Towards Manchester, there is competition from heavy rail, but bus fares are still significantly higher than off-peak rail, especially for passengers crossing the city centre. Rail frequency is lower though, and punctuality can be appalling.
RE: Pricing - Andreos1 - 29 Nov 2016
Currently making my way to Durham on a mind numbingly awful purple Streetlite. The drivers still insist on taking my eyes out with the £4.10 fare.
RE: Pricing - Tamesider - 29 Nov 2016
(29 Nov 2016, 3:52 pm)Andreos1 Currently making my way to Durham on a mind numbingly awful purple Streetlite. The drivers still insist on taking my eyes out with the £4.10 fare.
WADR (I've just invented that), without knowing where you boarded and how far it is to Durham, its difficult to pass judgement. Nevertheless, it does seem excessive for a single ticket on what I assume is an all stops service. Also, last I heard, Drivers don't decide fares policy - except on certain Operators in GM who have thankfully now ceased, that is.
RE: Pricing - Tamesider - 29 Nov 2016
(28 Nov 2016, 10:10 pm)Tamesider According to Google that's nearly 10 miles - shurely some mishtake. Just checked Stagecoach Manchester's website for my local routes and its £2.10 for 0.5 to 1.49 miles and £2.40 for 1.5 to 2.49 miles
Just to put this into context; Stagecoach DayRiders are £4, so single fares only apply to those making, well, single journeys, and all services in the area are fully commercial, so there is little danger of passengers having to pay two singles on the basis of the bus home being run by another Operator. OTOH, even taking the £4 as a flat fare for all day use, it is now virtually impossible for a motorist making a to/from town centre journey in my borough (Tameside) to pay as much as a bus passengers. In the town where I live (the £2.40 above refers to the fare to the town centre), the Council provide 60 spaces, but at least 1200 free spaces are provided by retailers, with the vast majority not even restricted to patrons only or by time limit. Additionally, (Labour controlled) Tameside MBC have just introduced a maximum £2 parking limit on all its car parks, for all day (about 2700 spaces). With motoring organisations quoting about 18p per mile variable costs of motoring (mainly fuel), that means a round trip of 11 miles to reach the £2 cost - to be added on to £2 parking. Thus you would have to live at least 5.5 miles from your destination for it to be more expensive than bus fare. The main town in the borough, Ashton-under-Lyne is centrally located and therefore less than 5.5 miles from any council tax paying resident. Other main towns are less centrally located, but have smaller catchment areas and a higher proportion of free parking. Of course, work usually takes people out of the borough - especially as job oppurtunities are lower than average - but here a car remains the choice for the vast majority (even if only to access the train station/tram stop), as medium/long distance bus services have all but disappeared since 1986.
RE: Pricing - MVK 500R - 29 Nov 2016
So, got an email from GNE telling me to buy now as they're revising Buzzfares from tomorrow, yet nothing on how much they're going up by, which is helpful(!)
RE: Pricing - Tom - 29 Nov 2016
(29 Nov 2016, 5:42 pm)MVK 500R So, got an email from GNE telling me to buy now as they're revising Buzzfares from tomorrow, yet nothing on how much they're going up by, which is helpful(!)
Is it normally the North Tyne saver you get? If so I can't see that going up.
RE: Pricing - LVK 404L - 29 Nov 2016
(29 Nov 2016, 3:47 pm)Tamesider They do on the sections of route mentioned, but even when competition was at its highest in the 1990s, very few services in GM saw fare reductions. Towards Manchester, there is competition from heavy rail, but bus fares are still significantly higher than off-peak rail, especially for passengers crossing the city centre. Rail frequency is lower though, and punctuality can be appalling.
Bearing in mind though Manchester has 3 separate shuttle buses running regular which are free of charge to all customers serving a vast area of the City Centre I am sure the likes of the customers in Newcastle Sunderland and a few more major cities would give their right arm for unlimited free travel across the city centres.
RE: Pricing - Adrian - 29 Nov 2016
(25 Nov 2016, 9:50 pm)Tom I think the single fares have gone up on GNE as on the 1 tonight someone was charged £2.15 from Churchill Street to North Shields when it's normally £2.10 - I've seen no mention of it mind!!
(25 Nov 2016, 9:51 pm)Michael Never do now for single fares now.
I can't see why they don't post a full list of changes on the website, and just refer to it being available on line on the posters? It's all good and well saying they haven't done for a while now, but why not? Surely consumers should have visibility of prices, in order to make an informed choice of whether or not the service is still for them.