(09 Aug 2013, 7:49 pm)citaro5284 I have the answer....just don't buy one and just buy singles instead

(09 Aug 2013, 7:03 pm)Adam Malarkey

(09 Aug 2013, 6:13 pm)stagecoachbusdepot

(09 Aug 2013, 5:33 pm)AdamY

(09 Aug 2013, 4:59 pm)stagecoachbusdepot

(09 Aug 2013, 3:50 pm)Adam Malarkey Just been into my local Travel Office this afternoon in Washington and I asked what is the cheapest option on a Weekly Pass to Sunderland using either Network One or The Key.

I was told Network One would cost £25.50 and The Key £23.50.

I then asked if the there was any weekly savers available on the Silver Arrows 2A/2C as that would be the services I would be using over the course of the week.

In the person replied yes, Washington Weekly Saver £11(I Think) and Sunderland Weekly Saver £11.40. Now here is where I am confused.

Why can I not purchase a Sunderland Weekly Saver on the 2A/2C when Washington is actually part of the City of Sunderland, surely Washington in that case shouldn't be classed as a Separate Area.

So therefore I have to than pay an Extra £12.10 per week, as the cheapest option which I purchased is a Red/Purple on The Key which think is a little overpriced.

I would of thought there would at least of been a ticket for the whole route although saying that, it is the same with other services come to think of it. e.g. M1 being s prime example, as I remember reading something a few weeks back about someone asking if there was Day/Week Savers available on the M1, Answer is yes and it's the same exact scenario as above.

I think GNE should look into this area as I do think it is rather Stupid not having a Day/Weekly Saver Ticket across the whole route, instead of part of the route due to the Zone System currently in place.

Cheapest option seems to be £11.40 (Sunderland weekly) plus £10.30 (Washington weekly) = £21.70 versus £23.50 2 zone buzz-far bought 'off the bus'. Fair comment that they should maybe look at a Route Saver for Silver Arrows (and probably several other routes). Have to say, I think its a bit of a stretch to expect GNE to include Washington in the Sunderland ticket, people would moan if they charged the same to Washington as for local hops in Sunderland. Plus Washington and Sunderland are in separate buzz fare zones, so would make no sense to include Washington in the Sunderland fare zone.

Conversely one might argue that GNE should move Washington into the red zone. As Adam points out, Washington is located within the City of Sunderland. As Washington is municipally linked with Sunderland Council who provide services for the town it would, therefore, make more sense to allow residents of Washington to participate in civic life, as defined by the boundaries of their local authority, without being prohibited by the cost of public transport.

According to Google Maps, Washington is located at a point equidistant of Sunderland and Gateshead so the argument about 'local hops' should also apply to residents of Gateshead: why should someone travelling daily between Whickham and Gateshead be charged the same weekly fare as people travelling across the local authority boundary to Washington? Either way, it isn't fair for someone.

You could argue if you wanted to, but GNE aren't under any obligation and don't claim to cover a municipality per ticket. The 'Sunderland' ticket is clearly designed for use on Sunderland local services. The 'Washington' ticket is clearly designed for use on Washington services. Using your argument, there would only be one ticket for the whole of County Durham as that is a single local authority area too?

When I referred to local hops, I was talking about the Sunderland daysaver ticket and the Washington daysaver ticket, which are local tickets, and which Adam felt should be extended. Neither is valid in Whickham.

Yes I agree the tickets are designed clearly but they are clearly misleading as they clearly linked to the shoddy Zone System rather than giving the passengers a cost effective option across the whole route rather than part of the route as these Day/Weekly Savers would suggest hence why passengers are enticed to buy them.

And yes that would be correct using my Argument that County Durham would have it's own Ticket.

So for example for there specific Area:

Durham Saver
Sunderland Saver
Gateshead/Newcastle Saver

Then you could have linking zone savers i.e. Durham/Sunderland to cover Prince Bishops 20 or Sunderland/Gateshead&Newcastle for X3/X36 and 56.

So instead of having the System Zoned by Colour i.e. Red & Purple, it would be zoned by Area and there Actual Boundaries to then give passengers more value for Money.

(09 Aug 2013, 7:49 pm)citaro5284 I have the answer....just don't buy one and just buy singles instead

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(12 Aug 2013, 8:09 pm)gtomlinson GNE have introduced a Match-Day Key


Assume this is aimed at Northumberland/Durham based fans as Newcastle's Magpie Mover at £10 makes this look absolutely terrible value but compared to 18 returns (for a PL game from say Hexham, Durham etc) it's not too bad

(12 Aug 2013, 8:13 pm)aureolin There's also the 'Wear On Our Way' ticket, which is priced at £20 a season.

(12 Aug 2013, 8:15 pm)gtomlinson Wonder why the discrepancy between Magpie Mover and Wear on Our Way? Wonder if they sell more of the MM than the WOW

Magpie Mover at £10 (especially if you think of Europe last season) is an utter steal!

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(12 Aug 2013, 8:19 pm)stagecoachbusdepot I think at the time they were launched there was some debate about the price differential and it was said to be down to the level of subsidy from the respective football clubs. No idea how accurate that is though.

(22 Aug 2013, 8:03 am)fozzovmurton I should have searched for this before posting, I apologise...

(23 Aug 2013, 1:15 am)CatsFast101 Another example I've come across is the lime 8/78, similarly to what Daniel said.. Lets take for instance your going to Chester-Sunderland then back, you could buy a Green & Red Zone Buzzfare on the 78, then knowing you can also use the 8 between them locations you attempt to board an 8 but are refused due to the fact the 8 enters into the purple zone. It's the same journey!