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RE: Pricing - nova347 - 06 May 2023

Its Saturday and nothing has been said on GNE about the £1 fare.


RE: Pricing - DeltaMan - 06 May 2023

Like the Coast Road partnership, they (TNE/NEXUS/operators) have done all the preliminary stuff and not bothered to tell the public in a unified voice. The partnership is a farce.


Pricing - Dan - 07 May 2023

(06 May 2023, 6:58 pm)nova347 Its Saturday and nothing has been said on GNE about the £1 fare.

The Transport North East £1 fare is available to purchase on Arriva, Go North East and Stagecoach buses, but you've only highlighted the lack of promotion from Go North East, when in fact, no operator has openly promoted this.

Both Go North East (https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/TNE-1-pound) and Stagecoach (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-04/05/2023-12:31:50:497) have put something on their websites about this, but the latter is pretty well hidden.

The fact that this is Transport North East's fare suggests they will be the ones leading the marketing and communications, and they too haven't put anything on their website or social media channels recently. It suggests that the operators are needing to wait for Transport North East before putting our their own communications.


RE: Pricing - F114TML - 07 May 2023

Stagecoach have put a poster up on some buses - I'd expect that number to increase over the coming weeks, months, years and millenia. Then consider there was no word to the drivers until Friday (at least at Sunderland), so good luck to the ones on long weekends.

Odd since they're very keen to promote the £2 cap...


RE: Pricing - nova347 - 07 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 5:49 am)Dan The Transport North East £1 fare is available to purchase on Arriva, Go North East and Stagecoach buses, but you've only highlighted the lack of promotion from Go North East, when in fact, no operator has openly promoted this.

Both Go North East (https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/TNE-1-pound) and Stagecoach (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-04/05/2023-12:31:50:497) have put something on their websites about this, but the latter is pretty well hidden.

The fact that this is Transport North East's fare suggests they will be the ones leading the marketing and communications, and they too haven't put anything on their website or social media channels recently. It suggests that the operators are needing to wait for Transport North East before putting our their own communications.
I did only highlight Go North East as them are they are the ones I use on basically a daily basis.


RE: Pricing - nova347 - 07 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 5:49 am)Dan The Transport North East £1 fare is available to purchase on Arriva, Go North East and Stagecoach buses, but you've only highlighted the lack of promotion from Go North East, when in fact, no operator has openly promoted this.

Both Go North East (https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/TNE-1-pound) and Stagecoach (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-04/05/2023-12:31:50:497) have put something on their websites about this, but the latter is pretty well hidden.

The fact that this is Transport North East's fare suggests they will be the ones leading the marketing and communications, and they too haven't put anything on their website or social media channels recently. It suggests that the operators are needing to wait for Transport North East before putting our their own communications.
Is only the single tickets avaiable, and not the day ones yet?


Pricing - Dan - 07 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 10:52 am)nova347 Is only the single tickets avaiable, and not the day ones yet?


Given there’s no reference to the day ticket on either GNE or SNE’s website, I’d suggest that is the case.


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RE: Pricing - Andreos1 - 07 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 5:49 am)Dan The Transport North East £1 fare is available to purchase on Arriva, Go North East and Stagecoach buses, but you've only highlighted the lack of promotion from Go North East, when in fact, no operator has openly promoted this.

Both Go North East (https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/TNE-1-pound) and Stagecoach (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-04/05/2023-12:31:50:497) have put something on their websites about this, but the latter is pretty well hidden.

The fact that this is Transport North East's fare suggests they will be the ones leading the marketing and communications, and they too haven't put anything on their website or social media channels recently. It suggests that the operators are needing to wait for Transport North East before putting our their own communications. 

Nowt like a bit of joined up, effective partnership work is there? 
Operators and other agencies, working together in a proactive manner, ensuring a seamless roll-out...


RE: Pricing - F114TML - 07 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 10:52 am)nova347 Is only the single tickets avaiable, and not the day ones yet?
Just the £1 under-22 single. The other ones come out later (June I think?).


RE: Pricing - Adrian - 07 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 11:25 am)Andreos1 Nowt like a bit of joined up, effective partnership work is there? 
Operators and other agencies, working together in a proactive manner, ensuring a seamless roll-out...
I mean if it's Transport North East's fare, the normal practice would be for them to put a press release out with an embargo date on it. The lack of an article on their own website would suggest they haven't done this?

Half arsed, as usual, when Nexus are involved.

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RE: Pricing - Iamtheone8483748 - 07 May 2023

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/TNE-1-pound


RE: Pricing - Storx - 07 May 2023

(06 May 2023, 7:26 pm)DeltaMan Like the Coast Road partnership, they (TNE/NEXUS/operators) have done all the preliminary stuff and not bothered to tell the public in a unified voice. The partnership is a farce.

Well apart from the part where Arriva is outright ignoring the part where it says they'll allocate Double Deckers on all boards. There's at least 2 boards on the 306/308 being allocated single deckers daily, especially the 6.30 to Newcastle on the 306.

Not that I care mind, as I'd rather they were there than on the Blyth expresses.


RE: Pricing - busmanT - 07 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 2:10 pm)Adrian I mean if it's Transport North East's fare, the normal practice would be for them to put a press release out with an embargo date on it. The lack of an article on their own website would suggest they haven't done this?

Half arsed, as usual, when Nexus are involved.

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It is indeed a Transport North East fare - similar principle to the 60p Nexus single fare with an under 16 POP card.


RE: Pricing - Busu284 - 08 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 8:00 pm)Storx Well apart from the part where Arriva is outright ignoring the part where it says they'll allocate Double Deckers on all boards. There's at least 2 boards on the 306/308 being allocated single deckers daily, especially the 6.30 to Newcastle on the 306.

Not that I care mind, as I'd rather they were there than on the Blyth expresses.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Funny joke. Say the same about gne. They have been Allocation StreetLite to the 307/309. Can't wait for Dan to come defend here with some excuse of "we have not manu spare decekrs at Percy " oh I do do do wonder why. What's it with everyone defensive of gne yet when it comes to stagecoach & arriva and any other company for that matter. Its always they have done bad


Pricing - Dan - 08 May 2023

(08 May 2023, 10:06 am)Busu284 Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Funny joke. Say the same about gne. They have been Allocation StreetLite to the 307/309. Can't wait for Dan to come defend here with some excuse of "we have not manu spare decekrs at Percy " oh I do do do wonder why. What's it with everyone defensive of gne yet when it comes to stagecoach & arriva and any other company for that matter. Its always they have done bad


Right on cue, Dan arrives.

There have been very few instances of single-decks being allocated to services 307/309.

This is in stark contrast to Arriva on services 306/308, which have been allocated single-decks on a daily (or near daily) basis.

I think you will find Storx is normally the last person to defend Go North East, and is possibly more critical of Go North East than other operators. Your suggestion that he (and others) are defensive of GNE and not Arriva or Stagecoach is simply incorrect.


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RE: Pricing - Storx - 08 May 2023

(08 May 2023, 10:36 am)Dan Right on cue, Dan arrives.

There have been very few instances of single-decks being allocated to services 307/309.

This is in stark contrast to Arriva on services 306/308, which have been allocated single-decks on a daily (or near daily) basis.

I think you will find Storx is normally the last person to defend Go North East, and is possibly more critical of Go North East than other operators. Your suggestion that he (and others) are defensive of GNE and not Arriva or Stagecoach is simply incorrect.



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I'd say balanced aka. despise them all as each other.

Can't really fault GNE for this one to be fair, Arriva are blatantly allocating certain boards with singles as it happens every day which isn't an operational mistake. What happens when you don't have enough double deckers and the 306 most the time doesn't need them either. It's better than allocating singles on the X10/X11 which is happening daily aswell lately.

Not sure if the X7/X8/X9 have picked up since the £2 fares but it's noticeable that there's always less than 6 on there aswell lately.


RE: Pricing - Dan - 09 May 2023

(07 May 2023, 5:49 am)Dan The Transport North East £1 fare is available to purchase on Arriva, Go North East and Stagecoach buses, but you've only highlighted the lack of promotion from Go North East, when in fact, no operator has openly promoted this.

Both Go North East (https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/TNE-1-pound) and Stagecoach (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-04/05/2023-12:31:50:497) have put something on their websites about this, but the latter is pretty well hidden.

The fact that this is Transport North East's fare suggests they will be the ones leading the marketing and communications, and they too haven't put anything on their website or social media channels recently. It suggests that the operators are needing to wait for Transport North East before putting our their own communications.

I notice that Transport North East has now launched this:
https://twitter.com/transport_north/status/1655922551804026880
http://www.transportnortheast.gov.uk/campaigns-and-initiatives/you-can-go-by-bus-for-just-1-or-less/

Go North East are the first operator to then post this on their social media channels and website:
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/pound
https://www.facebook.com/simplyGNE/posts/pfbid0Pqkthojh453V5MM1zCv5RriKNqaxqsupAzDttCoMbM2KhG2hN8AQpP2AwFkU4qZ5l
https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1655929660663033858


RE: Pricing - markydh - 17 May 2023

As was always inevitable, the £2 cap on single fares has been extended to 31st October. It will then increase to £2.50 for a further 12 months, which I suspect means we can expect a General Election before the end of October 2024.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65616182


RE: Pricing - Adrian - 17 May 2023

(17 May 2023, 12:33 am)markydh As was always inevitable, the £2 cap on single fares has been extended to 31st October. It will then increase to £2.50 for a further 12 months, which I suspect means we can expect a General Election before the end of October 2024.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65616182

I'm confident they'll call the General Election in May 2024, as they'll want to get back to the Springtime election periods.

As for this fare, and whilst it's good for (some!) customers, it's further down the rabbit hole we go. To run something on a temporary basis, for what will be almost two years at the current point of expiry, creates operators a big problem in my opinion.

If this doesn't get extended beyond that point, or there isn't a better fares formula brought in beforehand, then fares will skyrocket for customers overnight. Whilst I'm sure the Government of the day will step back and wash their hands of it, the operators and local authorities will be left to pick up the pieces.


RE: Pricing - streetdeckfan - 17 May 2023

(17 May 2023, 8:48 am)Adrian I'm confident they'll call the General Election in May 2024, as they'll want to get back to the Springtime election periods.

As for this fare, and whilst it's good for (some!) customers, it's further down the rabbit hole we go. To run something on a temporary basis, for what will be almost two years at the current point of expiry, creates operators a big problem in my opinion.

If this doesn't get extended beyond that point, or there isn't a better fares formula brought in beforehand, then fares will skyrocket for customers overnight. Whilst I'm sure the Government of the day will step back and wash their hands of it, the operators and local authorities will be left to pick up the pieces.

It'll be the same fiasco when they eventually pull the temporary reduced fare offer as when they pulled the temporary benefits increase during the illness.

Extending the deadline is only going to make dealing the problem that much worse, the more time people live with the offer, the more they'll be reliant on it.