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RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - KingSlayerRBLX - 15 Sep 2023
(14 Sep 2023, 7:42 pm)KingSlayerRBLX Is Consett Short on Buses?
First 6071 (Tyne Valley 10) Arrived, now today 6147 (DFDS Green) is here doing the Scholars.
Well the answer is a bit of a shock!
The B5LH's are slowly being withdrawn within the next few weeks. 6057 & 6064 are the first to go!
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - EastCoastMXZ1751 - 15 Sep 2023
(15 Sep 2023, 8:52 pm)KingSlayerRBLX Well the answer is a bit of a shock!
The B5LH's are slowly being withdrawn within the next few weeks. 6057 & 6064 are the first to go!
What are they getting replaced by?
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Rapidsnap - 15 Sep 2023
Wonder if they end up in Manchester to join their fleet of Volvo B5LH.
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - V514DFT - 16 Sep 2023
(15 Sep 2023, 9:47 pm)EastCoastMXZ1751 What are they getting replaced by?
Probably more second hand crap
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Adrian - 16 Sep 2023
Surprised to see the B5LHs being withdrawn already, unless they've become too unreliable to keep on the road.
I wonder what the average frontline fleet age is now, compared to say 2019?
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Iamtheone8483748 - 16 Sep 2023
It's interesting to see the gradual "downgrade" of the buses allocated to the diamond. It's went from new streetlites, to cascaded B5LH's (albeit due to the Newcastle low emission zone and presumed extra capacity needed?), and now just whatever is spare..?
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Tiger5105 - 17 Sep 2023
(15 Sep 2023, 8:52 pm)KingSlayerRBLX Well the answer is a bit of a shock!In that case, why spend money on changing the destinations on the side of the yellow X lines vehicles from Shotley Bridge to Castleside recently, when they've ran around for ages with the wrong place on them, only to show the right place just before withdrawal!
The B5LH's are slowly being withdrawn within the next few weeks. 6057 & 6064 are the first to go!
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RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - KingSlayerRBLX - 17 Sep 2023
(17 Sep 2023, 6:08 pm)Tiger5105 In that case, why spend money on changing the destinations on the side of the yellow X lines vehicles from Shotley Bridge to Castleside recently, when they've ran around for ages with the wrong place on them, only to show the right place just before withdrawal!
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Same thing with 6062!
Go North East State Of The Fleet - adavies3774 - 17 Sep 2023
(12 Sep 2023, 10:18 am)nova347 https://flickr.com/photos/194860296@N07/53180623667/in/photolist-2p2oN5Y-2p2oLFD-2p2kqeL-2p2nEkm-2p2o3vX-2p2oACB-2p2sBqn-2p2oAto-2p2tS3n-2p2rBNL-2p2tSyT-2p2sByP-2p2sBvh-2p2oAtt-2p2sB3Z-2p2sypW-2p2ubSu-2p2ubUD-2p2m6y5-2p2yci1-2p2vpqK
An East Gateshead Rider 58 with a grey bumper.
At least it made service and kept people moving, god forbid it having the wrong colour bumper
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RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - ian foster - 18 Sep 2023
(17 Sep 2023, 6:08 pm)Tiger5105 In that case, why spend money on changing the destinations on the side of the yellow X lines vehicles from Shotley Bridge to Castleside recently, when they've ran around for ages with the wrong place on them, only to show the right place just before withdrawal!
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I wonder if they will get some of the streedecks off the 21 when the electric buses arrive
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - ne14ne1 - 18 Sep 2023
(17 Sep 2023, 9:27 pm)adavies3774 At least it made service and kept people moving, god forbid it having the wrong colour bumper
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I thought it was a feature like the contrasting panel look on the e400s
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - xpm - 18 Sep 2023
Wonder where the TVT is going next fleet wise, more often than not 5 or 6 off service or off route. It’s a particularly bad day today with 9 off. Another example of the demise of a previous gold standard route, 6079 apparently being off since January.
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Unber43 - 18 Sep 2023
Three X10s broke down in a row today
17:15 from newcastle going to Gateshead.
18:15 from Newcastle broke down coming back from Peteleree at 17:15
19:15 from Newcastle broke down at Middlesbrough at 17:15
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Unber43 - 18 Sep 2023
(18 Sep 2023, 6:48 pm)Unber43 Three X10s broke down in a row todayTo add to this this ended up with the buses from 20 mins late to 90 mins late on the last runs of the day (all depaturtes from Newcastle + there return from Middlesbrough)
17:15 from newcastle going to Gateshead.
18:15 from Newcastle broke down coming back from Peteleree at 17:15
19:15 from Newcastle broke down at Middlesbrough at 17:15
17:15 ended up being 90 mins late coming back to Newcastle - 6357
18:20 ended up being about 30 mins late - 6312
19:20 so far at Hartlepool is about an 60 mins late - 6353
20:20 so far leaving Middlesbrough is about 30 mins late - 6355
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Jimmi - 18 Sep 2023
(18 Sep 2023, 9:34 pm)Unber43 To add to this this ended up with the buses from 20 mins late to 90 mins late on the last runs of the day (all depaturtes from Newcastle + there return from Middlesbrough)Doesn't help the X10 is contending with two closures on the A19 Northbound tonight which adds about 25 minutes onto each trip from Boro to Newcastle, didn't help some drivers were seemingly caught unaware by the one just beyond Dalton Park so had some having to double back or further divert to get back on track, buses appear to be diverting via Redheugh Bridge heading into Newcastle instead of the Tyne Bridge too.
17:15 ended up being 90 mins late coming back to Newcastle - 6357
18:20 ended up being about 30 mins late - 6312
19:20 so far at Hartlepool is about an 60 mins late - 6353
20:20 so far leaving Middlesbrough is about 30 mins late - 6355
Lord knows what caused the other issues with the service tonight, 6357 ended up sat in Middlesbrough Bus Station for 20 mins for some reason resulting in a 30 min delay to the departure (then had to divert due to above).
Whilst some of the issues are out of GNE's control, the other issues tonight only snowballed matters.
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Unber43 - 19 Sep 2023
(18 Sep 2023, 10:58 pm)Jimmi Doesn't help the X10 is contending with two closures on the A19 Northbound tonight which adds about 25 minutes onto each trip from Boro to Newcastle, didn't help some drivers were seemingly caught unaware by the one just beyond Dalton Park so had some having to double back or further divert to get back on track, buses appear to be diverting via Redheugh Bridge heading into Newcastle instead of the Tyne Bridge too.Breakdowns the buses whcih were meant to run 18:20 from Newcastle broke down at Peterlee (towards Newcastle), 19:20 broke down at Middlesbrough (towards Newcastel) and the 17:15 broke down at Gateshead (towards Middlesbrough) none of these
Lord knows what caused the other issues with the service tonight, 6357 ended up sat in Middlesbrough Bus Station for 20 mins for some reason resulting in a 30 min delay to the departure (then had to divert due to above).
Whilst some of the issues are out of GNE's control, the other issues tonight only snowballed matters.
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - Rob44 - 19 Sep 2023
at least i got value for money using my magpie mover on the 28b on saturday after match. due 120, came about 140 then got to high level bridge at well after 11pm. Didnt get in house till midnight. And to top things off the 1130pm 28b was just going through kibblesworth at whatever time we got there so god know what time that drive got home.... unless he went NIS and didnt run back from town
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - L469 YVK - 19 Sep 2023
(18 Sep 2023, 9:34 pm)Unber43 To add to this this ended up with the buses from 20 mins late to 90 mins late on the last runs of the day (all depaturtes from Newcastle + there return from Middlesbrough)And this is why GNE need a dual X10 & X21 fleet of E400MMC rather than the same 4x getting a hammering up and down the A19. Works perfectly well at Ashington with 7541-52 and 7563-81 being mixed between the X21/X22 and X14/X15/X18/X20.
17:15 ended up being 90 mins late coming back to Newcastle - 6357
18:20 ended up being about 30 mins late - 6312
19:20 so far at Hartlepool is about an 60 mins late - 6353
20:20 so far leaving Middlesbrough is about 30 mins late - 6355
Depending on what the 6 could interwork with as it wouldn't be reliable standalone just Stanley to Newcastle, extending the X31 to Lanchester would make the Stanley remote reliefs more efficient and provide a reliable X30/X31 interworking with each other standalone from other service groups.
X45 could interwork with the X71/X72 using StreetDecks or B5TLs.
Consett:
- 6336, 6337, 6338, 6339, 6340, 6341 - Total PVR of 4x (X30/X31) + 2x spare
Riverside
- 6342-55 - Total PVR of 12x (X10 & X21) + 2x spare
And from a reliability POV depending on whether there's any VOR.....a new bus & driver instead of a van could be sent from Consett to Stanley to pick up the X30 meaning that any delays from earlier X30 & X31 runs could be regulated too!
X30 (STY>NCL) > X31 (NCL>LAN) > X31 (LAN>NCL) > X30 (NCL>STY)
RE: Go North East State Of The Fleet - ne14ne1 - 21 Sep 2023
Reapplication of Sunderland District Berries branding:
https://x.com/will_sewell8/status/1704610687157150007?s=46&t=tPuGEygnn6BhKgNFiA4yAw
Go North East State Of The Fleet - adavies3774 - 23 Sep 2023
(18 Sep 2023, 11:32 am)xpm Wonder where the TVT is going next fleet wise, more often than not 5 or 6 off service or off route. It’s a particularly bad day today with 9 off. Another example of the demise of a previous gold standard route, 6079 apparently being off since January.
6079 went for an engine at Saltmeadows and the engine that went into it was also knackered. It’s been sat at Saltmeadows around the back ever since
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