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Green Arrow 200MMC's - KingSlayerRBLX - 13 Mar 2023
With the withdrawal of the 97 meaning the Green Arrow comes to an end, The Enviro 200MMC's will be set free from the 97.
I wonder what GNE will do to them?
Some to Percy Main for the 1? New Metrocentre Shuttle X66's? Or All becoming corp?
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - peter - 13 Mar 2023
(13 Mar 2023, 7:51 pm)KingSlayerRBLX With the withdrawal of the 97 meaning the Green Arrow comes to an end, The Enviro 200MMC's will be set free from the 97.
I wonder what GNE will do to them?
Some to Percy Main for the 1? New Metrocentre Shuttle X66's? Or All becoming corp?
I can't see them going to Percy Main for the 1, it makes much more sense in terms of fleet standardisation for Percy Main to get more of the 17-plate Streetlites to make up the PVR.
Equally can't see them being repainted. Green Arrow is a generic brand - remove the 97 branding from the cant rail and you could stick them on any service.
For the time being I reckon Versa's 5384-90 will go to Washington for the 25/28 (which will eventually move to Riverside) with 5463-69 going to Percy Main for the 1. 5488-98 could stay at Riverside as spares and for use on the X66, eventually going on the 6/12 circuit if that's ever brought back or maybe one day back on the 97 if it returns.
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Storx - 13 Mar 2023
(13 Mar 2023, 9:02 pm)peter I can't see them going to Percy Main for the 1, it makes much more sense in terms of fleet standardisation for Percy Main to get more of the 17-plate Streetlites to make up the PVR.
Equally can't see them being repainted. Green Arrow is a generic brand - remove the 97 branding from the cant rail and you could stick them on any service.
For the time being I reckon Versa's 5384-90 will go to Washington for the 25/28 (which will eventually move to Riverside) with 5463-69 going to Percy Main for the 1. 5488-98 could stay at Riverside as spares and for use on the X66, eventually going on the 6/12 circuit if that's ever brought back or maybe one day back on the 97 if it returns.
Wonder if there might be more movements, something like
Enviro 200 MMC -> 51/52
51/52 Streetlites -> Washington
All 17 Plate Streetlites -> Percy Main
Some Washington 15 Plates -> Deptford
As far as I'm aware there's not enough buses at Deptford either to withdraw the Violet's without replacement with an increase of frequency on the 65 aswell and can't imagine them wanting a mixed allocation on the 5/9/24/26 or 20/20A/65.
Would leave all the 63 Plate Versa's unallocated to do something aswell - not sure what, maybe the X66, the extra 17 plates at Percy Main could do the 41/41A aswell.
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Unber43 - 14 Mar 2023
Deptford doesn't have enough single deckers for the 65 to join Prince Bishops, and the 61 to become part of the EDE Brand
Really the E200 need to go onto a brand which has older buses and haven't just had repaints in the last 2 years.
Deptford need to get rid of the Versas
Green Arrow 200MMC's - Dan - 14 Mar 2023
(13 Mar 2023, 9:36 pm)Storx Wonder if there might be more movements, something like
Enviro 200 MMC -> 51/52
51/52 Streetlites -> Washington
All 17 Plate Streetlites -> Percy Main
Some Washington 15 Plates -> Deptford
As far as I'm aware there's not enough buses at Deptford either to withdraw the Violet's without replacement with an increase of frequency on the 65 aswell and can't imagine them wanting a mixed allocation on the 5/9/24/26 or 20/20A/65.
Would leave all the 63 Plate Versa's unallocated to do something aswell - not sure what, maybe the X66, the extra 17 plates at Percy Main could do the 41/41A aswell.
8310-12 from Riverside will replace 5334-36. They are already surplus at Riverside following return to service of 5384-88 so should transfer this week to enable 5328-36 to transfer to Go North West (due to their increased vehicle requirement for new contracts from next month).
Effectively the number of spare fleet livery Streetlites will reduce (these being used on 20 and 65), and the number of spare fleet livery Versa will increase.
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RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Storx - 14 Mar 2023
(14 Mar 2023, 12:03 pm)Dan 8310-12 from Riverside will replace 5334-36. They are already surplus at Riverside following return to service of 5384-88 so should transfer this week to enable 5328-36 to transfer to Go North West (due to their increased vehicle requirement for new contracts from next month).
Effectively the number of spare fleet livery Streetlites will reduce (these being used on 20 and 65), and the number of spare fleet livery Versa will increase.
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Thanks, makes sense with Deptford thought they'd be a bit short. Sure the extra Versa's at Riverside will be popular on here
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - V514DFT - 14 Mar 2023
(14 Mar 2023, 8:51 am)Unber43 Deptford doesn't have enough single deckers for the 65 to join Prince Bishops, and the 61 to become part of the EDE BrandIn your opinion
Really the E200 need to go onto a brand which has older buses and haven't just had repaints in the last 2 years.
Deptford need to get rid of the Versas
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - streetdeckfan - 14 Mar 2023
I honestly don't get all the Versa hate, they're a perfectly cromulent bus!
As I've said before, give me a Versa over a Citaro any day!
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Unber43 - 14 Mar 2023
i used to like Versa's, however the interior build quality is awful.
You can hear the wheels scrape whenever you go around a corner.
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - V514DFT - 14 Mar 2023
Highly doubt that
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Unber43 - 14 Mar 2023
It happens everytime on the 35 when you turn right after the Royal Hosptial/ Uni into park lane
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - nova347 - 14 Mar 2023
(14 Mar 2023, 9:02 pm)V514DFT Highly doubt that8331 is really bad, I got it on the 61 and when we went towards Sunderland, on that roundabout at Dalton park it did scrape, you call feel as the buses weight went to one side, the tyre scrap of the underside of the bus. It happens quite a lot, especially on the berries.
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - streetdeckfan - 15 Mar 2023
If the tyres are scraping then there must be something seriously wrong with the suspension.
I would have thought it would be hitting the bump stops before the wheel has a chance to hit anything, even at full lock
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Rob44 - 15 Mar 2023
Ive noticed this on the 28/29 service when we get the junk on it
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - V514DFT - 15 Mar 2023
It rubs, it doesnt scrape, been like that since day 1
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Washingtonian - 15 Mar 2023
I'd rather have a Versa or any diesel for that matter rather than these boring soulless electric buses that will eventually be the norm no doubt!
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - V514DFT - 15 Mar 2023
(15 Mar 2023, 4:15 pm)Washingtonian I'd rather have a Versa or any diesel for that matter rather than these boring soulless electric buses that will eventually be the norm no doubt!Aye, theyre about as attractive as a wet fart
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Storx - 15 Mar 2023
(15 Mar 2023, 4:15 pm)Washingtonian I'd rather have a Versa or any diesel for that matter rather than these boring soulless electric buses that will eventually be the norm no doubt!
I wouldn't go that far mind. Breadvans, Solos and Metroriders - no thanks.
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Ianthegoon - 15 Mar 2023
(15 Mar 2023, 4:15 pm)Washingtonian I'd rather have a Versa or any diesel for that matter rather than these boring soulless electric buses that will eventually be the norm no doubt!
To those of us who grew up surrounded by REs and VRs, your Versas look pretty soulless too!
RE: Green Arrow 200MMC's - Washingtonian - 15 Mar 2023
(15 Mar 2023, 5:07 pm)Storx I wouldn't go that far mind. Breadvans, Solos and Metroriders - no thanks.
I liked all those to be honest, although I hated it when a breadvan would turn up on a busy route.
Some of the electric vehicles look good, particularly the Alexander Dennis bodied ones but the majority have a boring look about them and just basically a box on wheels. One of the enjoyable things about being on a bus is listening to the engine and gear changes - something that gives them character. Some of these electric vehicles make some awful noises. I remember seeing a video of a demo one and it sounded absolutely dreadful!
(15 Mar 2023, 6:33 pm)Ianthegoon To those of us who grew up surrounded by REs and VRs, your Versas look pretty soulless too!
Oh yeah I agree. The versas are a good bus in my opinion but I would more than happily swap them for a Leyland National, Lynx, Atlantean, Olympian or MCW Metrobus anytime!
(15 Mar 2023, 5:02 pm)V514DFT Aye, theyre about as attractive as a wet fart
Yeah well summed up! ?