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RE: New technology in buses - Andreos1 - 21 Sep 2017
http://www.alphr.com/technology/1007098/the-tesla-of-buses-breaks-records-by-traveling-1100-miles-on-one-charge
Electric bus travels over 1000 miles on one charge.
RE: New technology in buses - Andreos1 - 27 Oct 2017
https://m.facebook.com/simplyGNE#!/story.php?story_fbid=10159518829195710&id=215880875709
I've been thinking about this for a while now.
We have apps which show buses on the map and we have information like we see in the link above.
Yet we don't have anything (that I'm aware of) which feeds directly to a website or even a landing page (bear with me on the landing page info).
Using TfL or VTEC as examples, you can find out within seconds about issues or delays on the website, yet with bus operators, we have to fiddle or hunt around.
This applies for people already using a bus and because of the hub n spoke model, are possibly going to get a connecting service at some point.
Why don't operators ensure this information is easily available?
The information in the link above, could be shared as a push message, shared on a WiFi landing page or even put on the website.
I appreciate that a set of bus routes are managed differently to a set of trains on a specific line. However as seen in the example above, all buses in the Dalton Park, Murton and Seaham areas are affected.
The message put out can be as simple as that.
When the upcoming Christmas rush starts, details could be shared quite easily about the inevitable snarl ups at Team Valley or Metrocentre.
Service levels could be tiered in a 'RAG' report.
If I am travelling, I don't want to be searching various places to find out if my journey is delayed. Is it on the app? Is the app even working? Is it on twitter or fb? Do I need to chase up this information on twitter or fb? If I go to the stop, will the information be shared at the few stops with the technology to do so?
A consistent message, which is given to me at source is what I want.
I get that information when I am using the tube and I get that information when using VTEC.
I don't always get it when using the bus.
RE: New technology in buses - Dan - 27 Oct 2017
Interesting points, and I agree with what you've said.
I've seen a demonstration of an app which allows operators to make use of push notifications. It allows users to "opt in" if they wish to receive push notifications for service updates. The user selects each service they would like to receive service updates for, and then every time a controller has a service update to publish regarding a specific service, they would tag the update with each service it is relevant to.
Clearly this is relying on a company's passengers having a smartphone with the app downloaded and I'm not suggesting it will appear in the North East any time soon, but for me, this has to be the way forward!
The only issue I think it could cause is potentially becoming overkill and giving a bit too much visibility, possibly becoming a little bit annoying to users.
RE: New technology in buses - GuyParkRoyal - 28 Oct 2017
Bus GPS location system being used to deliver targeted advertising.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/38fcc116-b9b4-11e7-b7b5-90f864fcf112
RE: New technology in buses - DavidSBrough - 28 Oct 2017
(27 Oct 2017, 3:53 pm)Andreos1 https://m.facebook.com/simplyGNE#!/story.php?story_fbid=10159518829195710&id=215880875709
I've been thinking about this for a while now.
We have apps which show buses on the map and we have information like we see in the link above.
Yet we don't have anything (that I'm aware of) which feeds directly to a website or even a landing page (bear with me on the landing page info).
Using TfL or VTEC as examples, you can find out within seconds about issues or delays on the website, yet with bus operators, we have to fiddle or hunt around.
This applies for people already using a bus and because of the hub n spoke model, are possibly going to get a connecting service at some point.
Why don't operators ensure this information is easily available?
The information in the link above, could be shared as a push message, shared on a WiFi landing page or even put on the website.
I appreciate that a set of bus routes are managed differently to a set of trains on a specific line. However as seen in the example above, all buses in the Dalton Park, Murton and Seaham areas are affected.
The message put out can be as simple as that.
When the upcoming Christmas rush starts, details could be shared quite easily about the inevitable snarl ups at Team Valley or Metrocentre.
http://app.arrivabus.co.uk is a website that Arriva has to show you the buses in real time. I use the website a lot because I can’t get the app on my phone.
RE: New technology in buses - Andreos1 - 29 Oct 2017
(27 Oct 2017, 4:05 pm)Dan Interesting points, and I agree with what you've said.
I've seen a demonstration of an app which allows operators to make use of push notifications. It allows users to "opt in" if they wish to receive push notifications for service updates. The user selects each service they would like to receive service updates for, and then every time a controller has a service update to publish regarding a specific service, they would tag the update with each service it is relevant to.
Clearly this is relying on a company's passengers having a smartphone with the app downloaded and I'm not suggesting it will appear in the North East any time soon, but for me, this has to be the way forward!
The only issue I think it could cause is potentially becoming overkill and giving a bit too much visibility, possibly becoming a little bit annoying to users.
Sticking with the rail example, Hull Trains and the one VTEC set have the screens which have scrolling news reports and TfL updates.
Again, something which can be taken up by bus operators and adapted to suit their passengers needs.
(28 Oct 2017, 10:56 am)DavidSBrough http://app.arrivabus.co.uk is a website that Arriva has to show you the buses in real time. I use the website a lot because I can’t get the app on my phone.I must admit that my personal phone doesn't let me use the apps either. My stubbornness and total lack of interest in compromising my phone choice to suit, is one reason why I dont use the apps.
Another, is their reputation for reliability and accuracy.
I gave up with the GNE app on my work phone after one too many glitches, areas of the app being removed 'temporarily', errors and re-boots and obviously there are comments about the accuracy of the ANE live tracking on the forum.
Being honest, I forgot you could follow the tracking via the website.
I suppose it adds weight to my comments about relying on various different sources, just to find out where the bus is.
Unless you fiddle around, click on a specific bus and use some intuition, the live tracking doesn't really tell you about any specific delays either.
RE: New technology in buses - BusLoverMum - 29 Oct 2017
(29 Oct 2017, 7:34 pm)Andreos1 Sticking with the rail example, Hull Trains and the one VTEC set have the screens which have scrolling news reports and TfL updates.
Again, something which can be taken up by bus operators and adapted to suit their passengers needs.
I must admit that my personal phone doesn't let me use the apps either. My stubbornness and total lack of interest in compromising my phone choice to suit, is one reason why I dont use the apps.
Another, is their reputation for reliability and accuracy.
I gave up with the GNE app on my work phone after one too many glitches, areas of the app being removed 'temporarily', errors and re-boots and obviously there are comments about the accuracy of the ANE live tracking on the forum.
Being honest, I forgot you could follow the tracking via the website.
I suppose it adds weight to my comments about relying on various different sources, just to find out where the bus is.
Unless you fiddle around, click on a specific bus and use some intuition, the live tracking doesn't really tell you about any specific delays either.
All too often, it's just plain wrong, too. Like that time we waited over half an hour for a 6. The app showed 2 of them passing us, in that time and the woman at the bus stop who ignored my insistence that arriva customer services would be even more in the dark than us and phoned them up just got the message that buses were running as usual with small delays.
RE: New technology in buses - L469 YVK - 24 Dec 2017
Looks like Volvo are going to release the "B8L" double deck in some of the markets around Asia but on a Tri-Axle chassis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JFjRWM8-L8
http://landtransportguru.net/volvo-b8l/
http://euro6.volvobuses.com/pdf/Volvo-D8K-Euro6-Fact-Sheet-EN.pdf
Do you think we could end up seeing some produced for the UK markets but only on 2 Axles to target some of the niche markets in the UK? Would be perfect timing come 2019/2020 when the Red Arrows and Tyne Valley Ten B9TLs begin to reach 7-8 years old, not to say that they'll get replaced then of course.
RE: New technology in buses - S813 FVK - 20 Feb 2018
MCV launches new Volvo B8RLE single-decker
https://cbwmagazine.com/mcv-launches-new-volvo-b8rle-single-decker/
RE: New technology in buses - Andreos1 - 20 Feb 2018
(20 Feb 2018, 8:21 pm)S813 FVK MCV launches new Volvo B8RLE single-decker
https://cbwmagazine.com/mcv-launches-new-volvo-b8rle-single-decker/
Is it just me, or do the external shots make it look very like a Citaro?
RE: New technology in buses - Malarkey - 20 Feb 2018
(20 Feb 2018, 8:21 pm)S813 FVK MCV launches new Volvo B8RLE single-decker
https://cbwmagazine.com/mcv-launches-new-volvo-b8rle-single-decker/
That looks very smart, I imagine EYMS will have an order for these confirmed soon as they like the MCV products.
RE: New technology in buses - mb134 - 20 Feb 2018
Looks a fair bit better than the demo Arriva had in 2014, and better than Wright's offer since they switched to the "kid with a ruler" front.
Wonder if we'll see any of the big operators place an order? Potential Omni replacements?
RE: New technology in buses - Michael - 20 Feb 2018
(20 Feb 2018, 8:21 pm)S813 FVK MCV launches new Volvo B8RLE single-decker
https://cbwmagazine.com/mcv-launches-new-volvo-b8rle-single-decker/
Looks alright
Not sure on the name though, "Evora", sounds like a shop for a women.
RE: New technology in buses - BusLoverMum - 20 Feb 2018
(20 Feb 2018, 8:40 pm)Andreos1 Is it just me, or do the external shots make it look very like a Citaro?
Its the result of one having an assignation with an E200MMC and a Streetlite (from behind)
RE: New technology in buses - Malarkey - 28 Feb 2018
(20 Feb 2018, 9:20 pm)Michael Looks alright
Not sure on the name though, "Evora", sounds like a shop for a women.
Pretty decent for a cost of £165,000, wonder how much a Streetlite costs.
More info on the MCV Evora - http://www.route-one.net/articles/Vehicles/Versatile__high_capacity_MCV_Evora_unveiled
RE: New technology in buses - Malarkey - 13 Mar 2018
(28 Feb 2018, 10:08 pm)Malarkey Pretty decent for a cost of £165,000, wonder how much a Streetlite costs.
More info on the MCV Evora - http://www.route-one.net/articles/Vehicles/Versatile__high_capacity_MCV_Evora_unveiled
The first two these has now been delivered to JJ Kavanagh of Urlingford - https://www.flickr.com/photos/darren_hall/39897498175/in/feed
RE: New technology in buses - Andreos1 - 30 Oct 2018
Seeing Michael's post on the Electric ADL reminded me.
TfL are exploring the market to identify AVAS systems for their electric fleet.
EU legislation dictates electric vehicles below a certain speed need to have warning sounds (like when an HGV reverses).
'The introduction dates for the mandatory fitment of AVAS would remain as originally specified in (EU) No. 540/2014, i.e. the fitment of AVAS to pure electric and hybrid electric vehicles becomes mandatory from 1st July 2019 for new types of vehicle and from 1st July 2021 for all new vehicles, and any AVAS systems that are fitted voluntarily ahead of these dates must comply with the applicable requirements'
How about the AVAS is tweaked to make a bus engine sound?
Classic Atlantean for deckers and Mk2 National for single deckers?
RE: New technology in buses - L469 YVK - 11 Nov 2018
https://www.alexander-dennis.com/media/news/2018/november/100-seats-for-lothian-in-new-three-axle-adl-enviro400xlb-on-volvo-chassis/
RE: New technology in buses - Andreos1 - 07 Jul 2019
https://www.facebook.com/8251776107/posts/10157517771576108/?sfnsn=mo
Driverless buses ahead? MMC200 undergoes trials.
RE: New technology in buses - Andreos1 - 15 Sep 2019
https://twitter.com/acsnottingham/status/1172883647537602560?s=09
Ratings for operator apps.
Nobody achieved 5*