Nexus
Nexus
(08 Dec 2021, 3:23 pm)Train8261 Possible the 11 would go back to Go North East unless they all go back to Go North East'
(08 Dec 2021, 3:23 pm)Train8261 Possible the 11 would go back to Go North East unless they all go back to Go North East'
(08 Dec 2021, 3:23 pm)Train8261 Possible the 11 would go back to Go North East unless they all go back to Go North East
(08 Dec 2021, 3:23 pm)Train8261 Possible the 11 would go back to Go North East unless they all go back to Go North East
(08 Dec 2021, 11:19 pm)Train8261 Probably guessing all the routes that nexus run but could be wrongI know GNE can't run some routes commercially.
(08 Dec 2021, 11:19 pm)Train8261 Probably guessing all the routes that nexus run but could be wrongI know GNE can't run some routes commercially.
(08 Dec 2021, 11:36 pm)Keeiajs I know GNE can't run some routes commercially.I don't understand what's GNE problem with the Little Coasters network. They have given up on it. They took back nearly every route gct had on the other side of the water. But only took the 19 back due to complaints it never turned up by gct
but I don't understand the logic of giving like the evening routes to another company, most likely most will go to GCT which I have heard there fleet are being kept together via ducktape, surely they should be refused to get as many contracts. Why can't a company just run 1 service all day and not have like SC in the morning, GNE through the day, GCT on a night. Like it is just confusing
(08 Dec 2021, 11:36 pm)Keeiajs I know GNE can't run some routes commercially.I don't understand what's GNE problem with the Little Coasters network. They have given up on it. They took back nearly every route gct had on the other side of the water. But only took the 19 back due to complaints it never turned up by gct
but I don't understand the logic of giving like the evening routes to another company, most likely most will go to GCT which I have heard there fleet are being kept together via ducktape, surely they should be refused to get as many contracts. Why can't a company just run 1 service all day and not have like SC in the morning, GNE through the day, GCT on a night. Like it is just confusing
(08 Dec 2021, 10:18 pm)Andreos1 Why would they go back to GNE? The only way you're going to guarantee that, is if they take the services on commercially.
Seeing as they're out to tender, it looks like they've got no intention of doing that and are more than happy for the taxpayer to help fund it.
Sad really.
(08 Dec 2021, 10:18 pm)Andreos1 Why would they go back to GNE? The only way you're going to guarantee that, is if they take the services on commercially.
Seeing as they're out to tender, it looks like they've got no intention of doing that and are more than happy for the taxpayer to help fund it.
Sad really.
(09 Dec 2021, 5:35 am)Dan The irony in your post here is that even Nexus are proposing to reduce service levels on the journeys which they provide.
If the local authority cannot justify keeping the services in their current format, I doubt a bus company at 80% of pre-Covid passenger levels/revenue will be able to do it either.
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(09 Dec 2021, 5:35 am)Dan The irony in your post here is that even Nexus are proposing to reduce service levels on the journeys which they provide.
If the local authority cannot justify keeping the services in their current format, I doubt a bus company at 80% of pre-Covid passenger levels/revenue will be able to do it either.
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(09 Dec 2021, 7:59 am)Andreos1 The irony in your post here is that even before Covid, GNE couldn't justify doing it either.
(09 Dec 2021, 7:59 am)Andreos1 The irony in your post here is that even before Covid, GNE couldn't justify doing it either.
I’m surprised stagecoach hasn’t scrapped the 18 in Sunderland yet that’s always a dead route! The 8 is often dead too
(09 Dec 2021, 9:16 am)Dan Bang on... Not sure what you find ironic about my post, but if operators couldn't do it pre-Covid (let's not forget Arriva and Stagecoach both have similar services themselves), they're even less likely to be able to do it now.
I think you'll find in the coming months that all three of the region's operators will be looking to scale back their networks, concentrate on the core and see how they can develop that, rather than focusing on weak points or taking back work that is, and will never be, profitable. Whilst there are many benefits to come from the BSIP (should the region be successful in its bid), it also looks at rationalisation of the network too.
(09 Dec 2021, 9:16 am)Dan Bang on... Not sure what you find ironic about my post, but if operators couldn't do it pre-Covid (let's not forget Arriva and Stagecoach both have similar services themselves), they're even less likely to be able to do it now.
I think you'll find in the coming months that all three of the region's operators will be looking to scale back their networks, concentrate on the core and see how they can develop that, rather than focusing on weak points or taking back work that is, and will never be, profitable. Whilst there are many benefits to come from the BSIP (should the region be successful in its bid), it also looks at rationalisation of the network too.
I don't have a problem with what Nexus are doing in practice - I still think they are appallingly run (along with the Joint Transport whatever it is)
The risk with all of this is they cut existing services because nobody uses them (fair enough) but is that because the existing service doesn't meet the needs of anyone and is unchanged in large parts since the 00s
I've some faith that a commercial operator will look and say - ok, nobody is travelling to Cobalt 5 days a week anymore and barely anyone at 7 or working 9-5, I'll reduce those services and work with Cobalt to understand when employees are in the office and if we can incentivise the travel with the companies based there and target services accordingly. Nexus won't do that.
(09 Dec 2021, 1:29 pm)Ambassador I don't have a problem with what Nexus are doing in practice - I still think they are appallingly run (along with the Joint Transport whatever it is)
The risk with all of this is they cut existing services because nobody uses them (fair enough) but is that because the existing service doesn't meet the needs of anyone and is unchanged in large parts since the 00s
I've some faith that a commercial operator will look and say - ok, nobody is travelling to Cobalt 5 days a week anymore and barely anyone at 7 or working 9-5, I'll reduce those services and work with Cobalt to understand when employees are in the office and if we can incentivise the travel with the companies based there and target services accordingly. Nexus won't do that.
(09 Dec 2021, 1:29 pm)Ambassador I don't have a problem with what Nexus are doing in practice - I still think they are appallingly run (along with the Joint Transport whatever it is)
The risk with all of this is they cut existing services because nobody uses them (fair enough) but is that because the existing service doesn't meet the needs of anyone and is unchanged in large parts since the 00s
I've some faith that a commercial operator will look and say - ok, nobody is travelling to Cobalt 5 days a week anymore and barely anyone at 7 or working 9-5, I'll reduce those services and work with Cobalt to understand when employees are in the office and if we can incentivise the travel with the companies based there and target services accordingly. Nexus won't do that.
BSIP..
Expect more cuts, expect less subsidy, expect more paint..
Oh and cheap refurbs, like the pathetic quality of the 27 & 56 compared to 309/10/11. Not to mention nothing remotely new for ANE or Stagecoach..
Bus improvement my ****
(09 Dec 2021, 2:09 pm)54APhotography BSIP..Arriva must buy new for the CAZ, that can't be avoided.
Expect more cuts, expect less subsidy, expect more paint..
Oh and cheap refurbs, like the pathetic quality of the 27 & 56 compared to 309/10/11. Not to mention nothing remotely new for ANE or Stagecoach..
Bus improvement my ****
(09 Dec 2021, 2:09 pm)54APhotography BSIP..Arriva must buy new for the CAZ, that can't be avoided.
Expect more cuts, expect less subsidy, expect more paint..
Oh and cheap refurbs, like the pathetic quality of the 27 & 56 compared to 309/10/11. Not to mention nothing remotely new for ANE or Stagecoach..
Bus improvement my ****
(09 Dec 2021, 6:36 pm)RobinHood Arriva must buy new for the CAZ, that can't be avoided.DB will be desperate to sell now, six months or so to go? No buyers and with covid still hanging around our necks, who will cough up knowing its mass fleet replacement or nothing...
(09 Dec 2021, 6:36 pm)RobinHood Arriva must buy new for the CAZ, that can't be avoided.DB will be desperate to sell now, six months or so to go? No buyers and with covid still hanging around our necks, who will cough up knowing its mass fleet replacement or nothing...
(09 Dec 2021, 6:36 pm)RobinHood Arriva must buy new for the CAZ, that can't be avoided.
(09 Dec 2021, 6:36 pm)RobinHood Arriva must buy new for the CAZ, that can't be avoided.