PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance
PSV Accessibility Regulations (DDA Regulations) - at a glance
My understanding is that the 20 day thing is if you're registering or stepping in for a service, in what would be defined an emergency registration. It's not there for if you can't be bothered to get your house in order.
(13 Jan 2016, 8:56 am)Adrian My understanding is that the 20 day thing is if you're registering or stepping in for a service, in what would be defined an emergency registration. It's not there for if you can't be bothered to get your house in order.
(13 Jan 2016, 8:56 am)Adrian My understanding is that the 20 day thing is if you're registering or stepping in for a service, in what would be defined an emergency registration. It's not there for if you can't be bothered to get your house in order.
(13 Jan 2016, 9:09 am)Dan That's all that I could find, too. It only concerns destination displays, rather than non-DDA buses in general:
"If the vehicle is providing a temporary service (e.g. rail replacement) or is an emergency replacement vehicle on the route in question it may not be possible to display the route and destination in all the usual places. In such cases a temporary sign must be displayed and must show the correct route number (if any) and the correct destination displayed on the front or nearside of the vehicle as close as practicable to the front entrance. The route and destination need not be illuminated at night. These relaxations apply only for the first 21 days of operation of such services."
Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/sy...le5990.pdf
The PSVAR guidance states "the Regulations apply to all buses and coaches operating to a published timetable." Nightingale Coaches are currently running a temporary service (28C) whilst Go North East's 28 service is diverted. The published timetable is available here; however, I note that the vehicle is operating with no destinations at present (but does have some vinyls with the route number at the front and back of the bus). I wonder if Nightingale Coaches realise that they have just over a week to arrange for destination displays to be fitted on what is potentially a leased/hired vehicle?
Source: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/1...idance.pdf
(13 Jan 2016, 9:09 am)Dan That's all that I could find, too. It only concerns destination displays, rather than non-DDA buses in general:
"If the vehicle is providing a temporary service (e.g. rail replacement) or is an emergency replacement vehicle on the route in question it may not be possible to display the route and destination in all the usual places. In such cases a temporary sign must be displayed and must show the correct route number (if any) and the correct destination displayed on the front or nearside of the vehicle as close as practicable to the front entrance. The route and destination need not be illuminated at night. These relaxations apply only for the first 21 days of operation of such services."
Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/sy...le5990.pdf
The PSVAR guidance states "the Regulations apply to all buses and coaches operating to a published timetable." Nightingale Coaches are currently running a temporary service (28C) whilst Go North East's 28 service is diverted. The published timetable is available here; however, I note that the vehicle is operating with no destinations at present (but does have some vinyls with the route number at the front and back of the bus). I wonder if Nightingale Coaches realise that they have just over a week to arrange for destination displays to be fitted on what is potentially a leased/hired vehicle?
Source: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/1...idance.pdf
Seems to be quite a few issues from Arriva down south...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mkrbus/23894156064/ - Front/side display inop.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mkrbus/24149633710/ - Fitted with a roller side blind, which is inop.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mkrbus/24445246835 - No side display fitted
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mkrbus/24310344332/ - No side display fitted
(30 Jan 2016, 10:25 am)BusLoverMum Side destination display on 641 flashing on and off.
548s rear destination: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27204054@N...otostream/
This is similar (if not the same) as 3886 is havig with its rear flipdot.
(31 Jan 2016, 12:51 pm)Andreos1 8271 has issues with its rear blind.
I was following it earlier and the destination seems to be a bit iffy.
(31 Jan 2016, 12:51 pm)Andreos1 8271 has issues with its rear blind.
I was following it earlier and the destination seems to be a bit iffy.
We operate a local service that carries schoolchildren (fare payers and education passes) as well as general public
My question is
If I stop claiming BSOG, stop carrying general public and carry schoolchildren only could I use a non DDA bus on this route
Also would I have to send a 56day variation to notify commissioner I would no longer carry public
(31 Jan 2016, 2:43 pm)steam We operate a local service that carries schoolchildren (fare payers and education passes) as well as general public
My question is
If I stop claiming BSOG, stop carrying general public and carry schoolchildren only could I use a non DDA bus on this route
Also would I have to send a 56day variation to notify commissioner I would no longer carry public
(31 Jan 2016, 2:43 pm)steam We operate a local service that carries schoolchildren (fare payers and education passes) as well as general public
My question is
If I stop claiming BSOG, stop carrying general public and carry schoolchildren only could I use a non DDA bus on this route
Also would I have to send a 56day variation to notify commissioner I would no longer carry public
(31 Jan 2016, 3:39 pm)tyresmoke My understanding is that if you make it a closed contract (ie none fare paying) then you can use a non DDA vehicle.
This would then mean you could only take pre-paid (off-bus) and passes though.
Yes the bus service registration would have to be cancelled I think?
(31 Jan 2016, 3:39 pm)tyresmoke My understanding is that if you make it a closed contract (ie none fare paying) then you can use a non DDA vehicle.
This would then mean you could only take pre-paid (off-bus) and passes though.
Yes the bus service registration would have to be cancelled I think?
(31 Jan 2016, 3:39 pm)tyresmoke My understanding is that if you make it a closed contract (ie none fare paying) then you can use a non DDA vehicle.
This would then mean you could only take pre-paid (off-bus) and passes though.
Yes the bus service registration would have to be cancelled I think?
(31 Jan 2016, 3:39 pm)tyresmoke My understanding is that if you make it a closed contract (ie none fare paying) then you can use a non DDA vehicle.
This would then mean you could only take pre-paid (off-bus) and passes though.
Yes the bus service registration would have to be cancelled I think?
(02 Jan 2016, 11:46 am)citaro5284 First ANE bus I see in 2016.......MPD 1800 and no working rear destination.
(03 Jan 2016, 11:03 am)GX03 SVC Thanks, will pass that onto the person I know once I see him again.
(02 Jan 2016, 11:46 am)citaro5284 First ANE bus I see in 2016.......MPD 1800 and no working rear destination.
(03 Jan 2016, 11:03 am)GX03 SVC Thanks, will pass that onto the person I know once I see him again.
(02 Feb 2016, 12:35 pm)citaro5284 Just seen this bus again this morning and it is still not working.
(02 Feb 2016, 12:35 pm)citaro5284 Just seen this bus again this morning and it is still not working.
(02 Feb 2016, 1:20 pm)GX03 SVC Its been reported but there aren't any guidelines saying that the rear blind should be illuminated? I'll chase that up.
(02 Feb 2016, 1:20 pm)GX03 SVC Its been reported but there aren't any guidelines saying that the rear blind should be illuminated? I'll chase that up.
(02 Feb 2016, 1:30 pm)Dan Yes there is.
(2) A regulated public service vehicle shall be fitted with a route number display on the rear of the vehicle
(3) Any route number display shall be capable of displaying
© characters that are provided with a means of illumination
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/1...idance.pdf
(02 Feb 2016, 1:30 pm)Dan Yes there is.
(2) A regulated public service vehicle shall be fitted with a route number display on the rear of the vehicle
(3) Any route number display shall be capable of displaying
© characters that are provided with a means of illumination
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/1...idance.pdf
(04 Jan 2015, 6:06 pm)tyresmoke The wording is "commercial advertising should not detract" from the clarity of the destinations and that "Other major points on the route can be included but they should not detract from the clarity of the ultimate destination"
(04 Jan 2015, 6:06 pm)tyresmoke The wording is "commercial advertising should not detract" from the clarity of the destinations and that "Other major points on the route can be included but they should not detract from the clarity of the ultimate destination"
