Employers and there understanding of Public Transport
Employers and there understanding of Public Transport
A pretty simple question for everyone, When your at a Job Interview do you ever get asked what mode of Transport youd use to get to work and how long would it take?, or a Question of a similar meaning.
The reason I ask is in some of my recent Interviews in the few weeks there seems to be a pattern developing for me where by Employers seem to think it is incredibly difficult to get from A to B, This has lead to me to believe that they have a severe lack of knowledge of Local Public Transport Services, which maybe affecting me getting a Job.
Today was a good example when having a sit down chat with my Advisor at Ingeus and the person who deals with Apprenticeships, as I am looking to get some experience in Administration, one of Apprenticeships was based at Team Valley and the Woman immediately put that out of the window as she felt it was too far to travel to from Washington, I then had to explain to her I could get there for a 9am Start and how I would get there, So I told her I had a direct service from Washington Galleries in the form of the 939, or alternatively I could get the X1 Every 10 Minutes to Gateshead followed by the 94 Every 15 Minutes down to Team Valley, again she dismissed me and said it would be too trouble and would prefer someone more local.
My Advisor then stepped in on my behalf and explained that I have an excellent knowledge of the Local Transport Services in the Area, and gave a few examples where I had been in the office and a few of his clients hadnt a clue how to get to an Interview, so he came over asked me as he knew I would probably know when I had been in doing Job Search etc, which has happened on a few occasions, after having a bit of an argument with her over of her lack of knowledge of the local area, she eventually agreed to put me forward for an Interview.
Another example was last Wednesday when I had an Interview in Durham at the William Hedley Whetherspoons, again exact same scenario, I can get the 50 every half hour to Durham from my front door, my only difficulty was getting Home as the 50 doesnt run to/from Durham after 7pm and only runs as far as Chester le Street, I again explained this was no issue as I could get the 21 from Durham to Low Fell and stop at my Dads House, again on a weekend when I would be finishing at 1Am I explained I could get the N21, but due to Travel Difficulties in there eyes they wouldnt give me the Job.
So I am basically wondering if anyone else has had this issue, and is something that needs to be looked at as a whole by the Government etc, As I see this a potential barrier to Employment.
There could be a whole number of reasons, such as lack of a direct link to bad experiences with existing or previous employees.
You just have to take a look at the operators social media pages to see regular and experienced commuters have with public transport and being late.
In different parts of the country, people commute for miles on public transport.
There is a link on the forum elsewhere, relating to a study Nexus did on the lack of public transport to/from major employment hubs. They based some of the initial Bus Strategy routes around the feedback they received from employers and employees.
One suggestion was to pump prime a service from Washington to Sunderland Business Park.
We eventually saw the 8 diverted that way
Another, was the lack of a direct service between Washington and Team Valley. Outside of peaks, passengers need two buses and pay for the privilege.
South Tyneside to Cobalt was another one.
I don't think the infrastructure or current network in the region does itself any favours with regard to commuting at all.
I've heard some people living in the Newton Aycliffe having issues with getting work in Faverdale as at the end of 2012 the 16 was withdrawn and now there is only one direct journey to/from Faverdale in the form of the 16A.
Some of the people who worked at Faverdale before the withdrawal of the 16 continued to work after this using the peak only 16A but apparently some were getting to their place of work nearly an hour early and finishing long before the return journey comes through Faverdale Ind Est at around 1735. I not sure why but the three lads who worked at Faverdale who used to use the 16A are no longer using it, don't wether they don't work there anymore or they now have other methods of transport.
I think another issue with employers and transport is some people apply for the job, get the job and then find out their methods of public transport.
Also there is the worry about buses running late or not turning up which could make you late for work, I know someone who was sacked from a job as the bus he needed often never turned up on a morning.
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=125&highlight=pump
The link I was referring to re Sunderland Business Park and other employment hubs lacking public transport.
(11 Feb 2015, 7:56 am)Andreos South Tyneside to Cobalt was another one.
(11 Feb 2015, 7:56 am)Andreos South Tyneside to Cobalt was another one.
(11 Feb 2015, 7:56 am)Andreos1 There could be a whole number of reasons, such as lack of a direct link to bad experiences with existing or previous employees.I quite regularly use the 8 between Sunderland and Washington due to how quick it gets from A to B compared to the 2/2A, But getting back on topic I personally think Employers across the Region need to be educated on Public Transport, as there bound to have people coming from here there and everywhere for a Job, got to also question whereabouts they are travelling from to get to work.
You just have to take a look at the operators social media pages to see regular and experienced commuters have with public transport and being late.
In different parts of the country, people commute for miles on public transport.
There is a link on the forum elsewhere, relating to a study Nexus did on the lack of public transport to/from major employment hubs. They based some of the initial Bus Strategy routes around the feedback they received from employers and employees.
One suggestion was to pump prime a service from Washington to Sunderland Business Park.
We eventually saw the 8 diverted that way
Another, was the lack of a direct service between Washington and Team Valley. Outside of peaks, passengers need two buses and pay for the privilege.
South Tyneside to Cobalt was another one.
I don't think the infrastructure or current network in the region does itself any favours with regard to commuting at all.
(11 Feb 2015, 7:56 am)Andreos1 There could be a whole number of reasons, such as lack of a direct link to bad experiences with existing or previous employees.I quite regularly use the 8 between Sunderland and Washington due to how quick it gets from A to B compared to the 2/2A, But getting back on topic I personally think Employers across the Region need to be educated on Public Transport, as there bound to have people coming from here there and everywhere for a Job, got to also question whereabouts they are travelling from to get to work.
You just have to take a look at the operators social media pages to see regular and experienced commuters have with public transport and being late.
In different parts of the country, people commute for miles on public transport.
There is a link on the forum elsewhere, relating to a study Nexus did on the lack of public transport to/from major employment hubs. They based some of the initial Bus Strategy routes around the feedback they received from employers and employees.
One suggestion was to pump prime a service from Washington to Sunderland Business Park.
We eventually saw the 8 diverted that way
Another, was the lack of a direct service between Washington and Team Valley. Outside of peaks, passengers need two buses and pay for the privilege.
South Tyneside to Cobalt was another one.
I don't think the infrastructure or current network in the region does itself any favours with regard to commuting at all.
Bit baffled by this. I've never heard of an employer asking people their mode of transport, and certainly no interviews that I've sat in, have I been asked? It's your responsibility to get to and from work, not the employer's, so it shouldn't matter.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:06 pm)aureolin Bit baffled by this. I've never heard of an employer asking people their mode of transport, and certainly no interviews that I've sat in, have I been asked? It's your responsibility to get to and from work, not the employer's, so it shouldn't matter.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:06 pm)aureolin Bit baffled by this. I've never heard of an employer asking people their mode of transport, and certainly no interviews that I've sat in, have I been asked? It's your responsibility to get to and from work, not the employer's, so it shouldn't matter.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:15 pm)Jimmi It is your responsibility to get to work however you choose to get there and I think its unfair if employers are rejecting people just because they use public transport, just because they use a bus doesn't mean they will be late everyday.
It's weird how some wouldn't fancy hiring people who live not far away but have to use public transport but are fine with some who live miles away that can drive a car.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:15 pm)Jimmi It is your responsibility to get to work however you choose to get there and I think its unfair if employers are rejecting people just because they use public transport, just because they use a bus doesn't mean they will be late everyday.
It's weird how some wouldn't fancy hiring people who live not far away but have to use public transport but are fine with some who live miles away that can drive a car.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:06 pm)aureolin Bit baffled by this. I've never heard of an employer asking people their mode of transport, and certainly no interviews that I've sat in, have I been asked? It's your responsibility to get to and from work, not the employer's, so it shouldn't matter.Its not a Question I am usually asked at an Interview, but in recent weeks it has become very common for it to be asked for me anyway which I find rather odd, and from feedback I have asked for via Email when an Employer has came back and said I was unsuccessful, getting to and from Work was the reason why, I honestly dont know what the issue is, perhaps Employers are simply unfamiliar with the Local Area and Areas outside of where they are Based, Basically the Question itself is based around the proposed Shifts you would work if you were successful at the Interview, obviously looking for someone who is Reliable and can get there on time on a Daily Basis.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:15 pm)Jimmi It is your responsibility to get to work however you choose to get there and I think its unfair if employers are rejecting people just because they use public transport, just because they use a bus doesn't mean they will be late everyday.Exactly if you cant get from A to B to start a Work at say 9am, then there is no point in attending an Interview for said Job, in my case I attended because I could get there for 9am, simply by looking at where the Employer is Based and looking at Bus Times, it really isnt hard at all in my opinion, common sense really.
It's weird how some wouldn't fancy hiring people who live not far away but have to use public transport but are fine with some who live miles away that can drive a car.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:06 pm)aureolin Bit baffled by this. I've never heard of an employer asking people their mode of transport, and certainly no interviews that I've sat in, have I been asked? It's your responsibility to get to and from work, not the employer's, so it shouldn't matter.Its not a Question I am usually asked at an Interview, but in recent weeks it has become very common for it to be asked for me anyway which I find rather odd, and from feedback I have asked for via Email when an Employer has came back and said I was unsuccessful, getting to and from Work was the reason why, I honestly dont know what the issue is, perhaps Employers are simply unfamiliar with the Local Area and Areas outside of where they are Based, Basically the Question itself is based around the proposed Shifts you would work if you were successful at the Interview, obviously looking for someone who is Reliable and can get there on time on a Daily Basis.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:15 pm)Jimmi It is your responsibility to get to work however you choose to get there and I think its unfair if employers are rejecting people just because they use public transport, just because they use a bus doesn't mean they will be late everyday.Exactly if you cant get from A to B to start a Work at say 9am, then there is no point in attending an Interview for said Job, in my case I attended because I could get there for 9am, simply by looking at where the Employer is Based and looking at Bus Times, it really isnt hard at all in my opinion, common sense really.
It's weird how some wouldn't fancy hiring people who live not far away but have to use public transport but are fine with some who live miles away that can drive a car.
(11 Feb 2015, 4:50 pm)citaro5284 And then when it is put on, nobody uses it.....At the risk of going off topic - research will have been done, loads (according to Dan) were good when it first started. So the question needs to be asked as to why loads tailed off.
(11 Feb 2015, 6:01 pm)Malarkey I quite regularly use the 8 between Sunderland and Washington due to how quick it gets from A to B compared to the 2/2A, But getting back on topic I personally think Employers across the Region need to be educated on Public Transport, as there bound to have people coming from here there and everywhere for a Job, got to also question whereabouts they are travelling from to get to work.
(11 Feb 2015, 4:50 pm)citaro5284 And then when it is put on, nobody uses it.....At the risk of going off topic - research will have been done, loads (according to Dan) were good when it first started. So the question needs to be asked as to why loads tailed off.
(11 Feb 2015, 6:01 pm)Malarkey I quite regularly use the 8 between Sunderland and Washington due to how quick it gets from A to B compared to the 2/2A, But getting back on topic I personally think Employers across the Region need to be educated on Public Transport, as there bound to have people coming from here there and everywhere for a Job, got to also question whereabouts they are travelling from to get to work.
(11 Feb 2015, 10:20 pm)Andreos1 At the risk of going off topic - research will have been done, loads (according to Dan) were good when it first started. So the question needs to be asked as to why loads tailed off.My older Brother works for Convergys and they promote Employees Cycling to Work, out of that they paid Half of what my Brothers Bike cost due an Initive they set up with Halfords, I am aware others elsewhere, a few of which you have mentioned Andreos1.
Organisations such as Valley Links (think that is the name), try and promote alternative modes of transport to the car. Maybe there needs to be more done.
I have been racking my brains and thinking back to when I was in your situation and relying on public transport and I am pretty sure the question was asked, but this was based on working outside normal 9-5 hrs - for instance dealing with deliveries and was aimed at finding out how flexible I could be.
Living half an hour away and relying on a half hourly bus service, would not have given the employer the flexibility they may have needed or wanted at the time.
Of course, I told them about public transport and how the folks could drive and drop me off if needed. Obviously the folks had no idea I had volunteered them for taxi duties, but it gave me the upper hand to those relying on the bus.
(11 Feb 2015, 10:20 pm)Andreos1 At the risk of going off topic - research will have been done, loads (according to Dan) were good when it first started. So the question needs to be asked as to why loads tailed off.My older Brother works for Convergys and they promote Employees Cycling to Work, out of that they paid Half of what my Brothers Bike cost due an Initive they set up with Halfords, I am aware others elsewhere, a few of which you have mentioned Andreos1.
Organisations such as Valley Links (think that is the name), try and promote alternative modes of transport to the car. Maybe there needs to be more done.
I have been racking my brains and thinking back to when I was in your situation and relying on public transport and I am pretty sure the question was asked, but this was based on working outside normal 9-5 hrs - for instance dealing with deliveries and was aimed at finding out how flexible I could be.
Living half an hour away and relying on a half hourly bus service, would not have given the employer the flexibility they may have needed or wanted at the time.
Of course, I told them about public transport and how the folks could drive and drop me off if needed. Obviously the folks had no idea I had volunteered them for taxi duties, but it gave me the upper hand to those relying on the bus.
(11 Feb 2015, 10:42 pm)Malarkey My older Brother works for Convergys and they promote Employees Cycling to Work, out of that they paid Half of what my Brothers Bike cost due an Initive they set up with Halfords, I am aware others elsewhere, a few of which you have mentioned Andreos1.
I also have a Bike but it needs repairing, so that would give me an Advantage if I was to get a Job in the Washington Area, as for Buses I have an excellent Service which gets me around the most of Washington, again its the same for Newcastle/Sunderland and Durham, I just have the issue of Employers not giving me a Job due to using the Bus and thinking I live Miles away.
I am going to have a sit down with my Ingeus Advisor on Friday to see if there is anything we can do, probably not but hey-ho something will come eventually.
(11 Feb 2015, 10:42 pm)Malarkey My older Brother works for Convergys and they promote Employees Cycling to Work, out of that they paid Half of what my Brothers Bike cost due an Initive they set up with Halfords, I am aware others elsewhere, a few of which you have mentioned Andreos1.
I also have a Bike but it needs repairing, so that would give me an Advantage if I was to get a Job in the Washington Area, as for Buses I have an excellent Service which gets me around the most of Washington, again its the same for Newcastle/Sunderland and Durham, I just have the issue of Employers not giving me a Job due to using the Bus and thinking I live Miles away.
I am going to have a sit down with my Ingeus Advisor on Friday to see if there is anything we can do, probably not but hey-ho something will come eventually.
It always bemuses me why GNE insist on their Facebook and journey planner to send people from Birtley and Chester to Gateshead to get to Team Valley (outside of 937)
Why don't they offer the option of a 21 to Aletaster and a 94 from there. Cuts journey time in half
(12 Feb 2015, 12:13 am)gtom It always bemuses me why GNE insist on their Facebook and journey planner to send people from Birtley and Chester to Gateshead to get to Team Valley (outside of 937)It may be linked to the fact Go North East uses their own Journey Planner and/or Traveline's facility.
Why don't they offer the option of a 21 to Aletaster and a 94 from there. Cuts journey time in half
(12 Feb 2015, 12:13 am)gtom It always bemuses me why GNE insist on their Facebook and journey planner to send people from Birtley and Chester to Gateshead to get to Team Valley (outside of 937)It may be linked to the fact Go North East uses their own Journey Planner and/or Traveline's facility.
Why don't they offer the option of a 21 to Aletaster and a 94 from there. Cuts journey time in half
(11 Feb 2015, 9:06 pm)aureolin Bit baffled by this. I've never heard of an employer asking people their mode of transport, and certainly no interviews that I've sat in, have I been asked? It's your responsibility to get to and from work, not the employer's, so it shouldn't matter.
(11 Feb 2015, 9:06 pm)aureolin Bit baffled by this. I've never heard of an employer asking people their mode of transport, and certainly no interviews that I've sat in, have I been asked? It's your responsibility to get to and from work, not the employer's, so it shouldn't matter.
