Bank Holiday Services
Bank Holiday Services
They don't care. As if proven by their scheduling and attitude.
We're a service led economy up here, large numbers of people work Bank Holidays and the rest tend to go out and enjoy. They aren't the lazy Sundays they once were and none of the companies have reacted.
Welcome to the North East, the local public transport time is 1950.
But hey....we've got power sockets and NSAs!
For years and years bank holiday services have always operated in this manner regarding schedules. There have been matches on at those times too and other stuff not just matches. The bus companies aren't going to change their scheduling after all these years just because there is a football game on.
(29 Mar 2017, 7:19 am)ifm001 For years and years bank holiday services have always operated in this manner regarding schedules. There have been matches on at those times too and other stuff not just matches. The bus companies aren't going to change their scheduling after all these years just because there is a football game on.
(29 Mar 2017, 7:19 am)ifm001 For years and years bank holiday services have always operated in this manner regarding schedules. There have been matches on at those times too and other stuff not just matches. The bus companies aren't going to change their scheduling after all these years just because there is a football game on.
(29 Mar 2017, 7:19 am)ifm001 For years and years bank holiday services have always operated in this manner regarding schedules. There have been matches on at those times too and other stuff not just matches. The bus companies aren't going to change their scheduling after all these years just because there is a football game on.
(29 Mar 2017, 7:19 am)ifm001 For years and years bank holiday services have always operated in this manner regarding schedules. There have been matches on at those times too and other stuff not just matches. The bus companies aren't going to change their scheduling after all these years just because there is a football game on.
(28 Mar 2017, 10:06 pm)James101 If it takes a month to plan a roster I'd guess GNE need a better scheduling department...
(28 Mar 2017, 10:06 pm)James101 If it takes a month to plan a roster I'd guess GNE need a better scheduling department...
(29 Mar 2017, 12:21 pm)northern156 What if most of the drivers have already chosen to have the day off to spend with family, go away, even go to the match etc? Being Easter I'd suggest that is a fairly high number.
They're not required to work on their day off.
(29 Mar 2017, 12:21 pm)northern156 What if most of the drivers have already chosen to have the day off to spend with family, go away, even go to the match etc? Being Easter I'd suggest that is a fairly high number.
They're not required to work on their day off.
(28 Mar 2017, 11:15 pm)Ambassador They don't care. As if proven by their scheduling and attitude.
We're a service led economy up here, large numbers of people work Bank Holidays and the rest tend to go out and enjoy. They aren't the lazy Sundays they once were and none of the companies have reacted.
Welcome to the North East, the local public transport time is 1950.
But hey....we've got power sockets and NSAs!
(29 Mar 2017, 4:10 pm)James101 Again, for a company with as many employees as GNE, there should be a set process to ensure only a set number of people can have any particular day off. If GNE, or any other company, approve too many holiday requests, that's poor management. Sundays and bank holidays are not God-given rights as days off, the law seems them as any other day. Any extra benefits surrounding bank holiday working are at the discretion of the employer and can be withdrawn.
(28 Mar 2017, 10:39 pm)James101 Massive opportunity for effieciency here then - though they seem to manage when emergency tenders for metro etc come up
(28 Mar 2017, 11:15 pm)Ambassador They don't care. As if proven by their scheduling and attitude.
We're a service led economy up here, large numbers of people work Bank Holidays and the rest tend to go out and enjoy. They aren't the lazy Sundays they once were and none of the companies have reacted.
Welcome to the North East, the local public transport time is 1950.
But hey....we've got power sockets and NSAs!
(29 Mar 2017, 4:10 pm)James101 Again, for a company with as many employees as GNE, there should be a set process to ensure only a set number of people can have any particular day off. If GNE, or any other company, approve too many holiday requests, that's poor management. Sundays and bank holidays are not God-given rights as days off, the law seems them as any other day. Any extra benefits surrounding bank holiday working are at the discretion of the employer and can be withdrawn.
(28 Mar 2017, 10:39 pm)James101 Massive opportunity for effieciency here then - though they seem to manage when emergency tenders for metro etc come up
(29 Mar 2017, 5:46 pm)Adrian Do you honestly think there wouldn't be? 2000 staff with the majority being drivers, working obscure shift pattern, and across several locations? I'd suggest the system is almost cast iron.
I'd suggest anything less than 4 weeks notice to alter a shift is unreasonable. All employees, no matter who they work for, are entitled to a work-life balance. Giving them one lot of shifts, and then changing them for another with minimal notice, is unreasonable in my opinion. Plenty of opportunity for businesses to resource with volunteers working a rest day or overtime, if needs must.
Planned Metro tenders are normally awarded ages in advance, but even then, it is with volunteers to some degree from what I've seen, based on which drivers are working those services. The emergency requests (rather than tenders) for replacement buses is usually staffed with lead drivers and others that are not scheduled to be on the road.
(29 Mar 2017, 5:46 pm)Adrian Do you honestly think there wouldn't be? 2000 staff with the majority being drivers, working obscure shift pattern, and across several locations? I'd suggest the system is almost cast iron.
I'd suggest anything less than 4 weeks notice to alter a shift is unreasonable. All employees, no matter who they work for, are entitled to a work-life balance. Giving them one lot of shifts, and then changing them for another with minimal notice, is unreasonable in my opinion. Plenty of opportunity for businesses to resource with volunteers working a rest day or overtime, if needs must.
Planned Metro tenders are normally awarded ages in advance, but even then, it is with volunteers to some degree from what I've seen, based on which drivers are working those services. The emergency requests (rather than tenders) for replacement buses is usually staffed with lead drivers and others that are not scheduled to be on the road.
(29 Mar 2017, 6:13 pm)James101 BIB: I think the system probably is 'cast-iron'. My comment was in response to northern156's suggestion drivers could have the bank holiday weekend off because they fancied it.
I see your argument for the 4 week notice for an issued roster, but it's only reasonable to expect GNE to impose the same rules on driver's holiday or day off requests. In effect, if a driver doesn't request to be off on a particular day with 4 weeks notice, they can't expect to get it.
The loadings on some key routes have been so high on Good Friday in the past have been so high I'd suggest GNE could even staff then with agency drivers and still turn a profit.
(29 Mar 2017, 6:13 pm)James101 BIB: I think the system probably is 'cast-iron'. My comment was in response to northern156's suggestion drivers could have the bank holiday weekend off because they fancied it.
I see your argument for the 4 week notice for an issued roster, but it's only reasonable to expect GNE to impose the same rules on driver's holiday or day off requests. In effect, if a driver doesn't request to be off on a particular day with 4 weeks notice, they can't expect to get it.
The loadings on some key routes have been so high on Good Friday in the past have been so high I'd suggest GNE could even staff then with agency drivers and still turn a profit.
(29 Mar 2017, 6:13 pm)James101 BIB: I think the system probably is 'cast-iron'. My comment was in response to northern156's suggestion drivers could have the bank holiday weekend off because they fancied it.
I see your argument for the 4 week notice for an issued roster, but it's only reasonable to expect GNE to impose the same rules on driver's holiday or day off requests. In effect, if a driver doesn't request to be off on a particular day with 4 weeks notice, they can't expect to get it.
The loadings on some key routes have been so high on Good Friday in the past have been so high I'd suggest GNE could even staff then with agency drivers and still turn a profit.
(29 Mar 2017, 6:13 pm)James101 BIB: I think the system probably is 'cast-iron'. My comment was in response to northern156's suggestion drivers could have the bank holiday weekend off because they fancied it.
I see your argument for the 4 week notice for an issued roster, but it's only reasonable to expect GNE to impose the same rules on driver's holiday or day off requests. In effect, if a driver doesn't request to be off on a particular day with 4 weeks notice, they can't expect to get it.
The loadings on some key routes have been so high on Good Friday in the past have been so high I'd suggest GNE could even staff then with agency drivers and still turn a profit.
Just hopped in the 22.42 21 ex Newcastle.
Standing room only to the Angel. The previous two services were full. People still left at Gateshead
Sure Sunday service on Good Friday will be fine...no demand is there
(05 Apr 2017, 10:36 pm)Ambassador Just hopped in the 22.42 21 ex Newcastle.
Standing room only to the Angel. The previous two services were full. People still left at Gateshead
Sure Sunday service on Good Friday will be fine...no demand is there
(06 Apr 2017, 12:07 am)GX03 Something to do with the match maybe?
(06 Apr 2017, 12:07 am)GX03 Something to do with the match maybe?
(06 Apr 2017, 7:08 am)GX03 Are Newcastle at home on Friday?, not a fan so don't know.
(06 Apr 2017, 7:08 am)GX03 Are Newcastle at home on Friday?, not a fan so don't know.
Right then, lets have a prediction on the so called delays then!
GNE:
1/1A= 30 minutes
21= 40 minutes
X1= 30 minutes
10/10A/10B = 15 minutes (up to 30 minutes on the 10)
45/46/47 = 30 minutes
12/12A = 10 minutes
309/310 = 30-45 minutes (or more with demand for Spainish City as well as traffic in Seaton Sluice for chippies, could rise if a number of 306/308s are no shows which will be likely if Tynemouth is busy as well as traffic the 308 will have to face)
56 = 15 minutes
57 = 15 minutes
58 = 10 minutes
27 = 15 minutes
ANE:
306/308 = 30 minutes (Jesmond / Blyth can regulate if needed)
X10/X11 = 15-20 minutes
X18 = 15-30 minutes
X21/35 = 30 minutes
X22 = 15 minutes
X7/X8 = 15 minutes
43/46/52/53 = 15-30 minutes
44/45= 15 minutes
(06 Apr 2017, 7:28 pm)L469 YVK Right then, lets have a prediction on the so called delays then!
GNE:
1/1A= 30 minutes
21= 40 minutes
X1= 30 minutes
10/10A/10B = 15 minutes (up to 30 minutes on the 10)
45/46/47 = 30 minutes
12/12A = 10 minutes
309/310 = 30-45 minutes (or more with demand for Spainish City as well as traffic in Seaton Sluice for chippies, could rise if a number of 306/308s are no shows which will be likely if Tynemouth is busy as well as traffic the 308 will have to face)
56 = 15 minutes
57 = 15 minutes
58 = 10 minutes
27 = 15 minutes
ANE:
306/308 = 30 minutes (Jesmond / Blyth can regulate if needed)
X10/X11 = 15-20 minutes
X18 = 15-30 minutes
X21/35 = 30 minutes
X22 = 15 minutes
X7/X8 = 15 minutes
43/46/52/53 = 15-30 minutes
44/45= 15 minutes
(06 Apr 2017, 7:28 pm)L469 YVK Right then, lets have a prediction on the so called delays then!
GNE:
1/1A= 30 minutes
21= 40 minutes
X1= 30 minutes
10/10A/10B = 15 minutes (up to 30 minutes on the 10)
45/46/47 = 30 minutes
12/12A = 10 minutes
309/310 = 30-45 minutes (or more with demand for Spainish City as well as traffic in Seaton Sluice for chippies, could rise if a number of 306/308s are no shows which will be likely if Tynemouth is busy as well as traffic the 308 will have to face)
56 = 15 minutes
57 = 15 minutes
58 = 10 minutes
27 = 15 minutes
ANE:
306/308 = 30 minutes (Jesmond / Blyth can regulate if needed)
X10/X11 = 15-20 minutes
X18 = 15-30 minutes
X21/35 = 30 minutes
X22 = 15 minutes
X7/X8 = 15 minutes
43/46/52/53 = 15-30 minutes
44/45= 15 minutes
(06 Apr 2017, 7:28 pm)L469 YVK Right then, lets have a prediction on the so called delays then!
ANE:
X18 = 15-30 minutes
X21/35 = 30 minutes
X22 = 15 minutes
(06 Apr 2017, 7:28 pm)L469 YVK Right then, lets have a prediction on the so called delays then!
ANE:
X18 = 15-30 minutes
X21/35 = 30 minutes
X22 = 15 minutes
Thought with tomorrow fast approaching I'll put a rather appropriate theme tune on here for you all:
https://youtu.be/M8wl4acSmfs
GNE have confirmed football specials will run as normal tonight.
Fairly badly advertised until today and still not that clear on the website