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Andreos1



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02 Feb 2016, 3:22 pm #46
(02 Feb 2016, 1:07 pm)Jimmi I'm guessing in the North East we went with quantity rather than quality in our Enviro 400's, especially as the ones for the 7 where they were purchased for additional capacity, so it probably wouldn't be best getting Enviro 400's that probably would be licensed to carry around the same number of passengers as the Pulsars they replaced, although the E400's would obviously have a higher seating capacity and lower standing capacity. Not sampled Stagecoach Gold yet but the seats seem the same as the Enviro 400 MMC demonstrator GNE trialled last year, which is what I think Arriva should have gone with for their MAX and Sapphire buses.

I have used Gold services in Oxford. I have sampled their S series a few times now.
Whilst there may be slight differences, it isn't noticeable.

To be honest, I cant notice the difference with GNE, Max nor Sapphire with regard to the plether they use.

I have noticed the lack of pitch and the angle of the seats on all and it does nowt for me.
No comfort at all as far as I am concerned. Regardless of the seating material.

I note Bensons for Beds and similar chain stores have a scale for their mattresses.
If a major bed retailer has to offer a range of support levels to appease their customers, then no wonder operators can't win over everyone.

If the operators asked what passengers were after, in terms of comfort, material, legroom, pitch, angles etc., I wonder what would win?

(02 Feb 2016, 2:54 pm)James101 I wonder if the extra weight is offset by there being less seats overall on the vehicle? I've not done a count but there was clearly less seats on the Gold spec e300s compared to standard Stagecoach. 

The corridor these buses run on is served by 10 buses per hour and appeared to run as a 'walk-on' service Chester whereby as one bus departed the next pulled up out of layover to load. Although running less departures with higher capacity buses would be more economical, it could be argued that the combination of high spec interior plus ultra frequent Departures is more appealing to motorists opting to be first time bus users. Maybe this is the thinking behind this 'quality over quantity' and it may pay off in the long term

Pump priming a service is certainly not a new thing, but a massive gamble when doing it with high spec vehicles.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
02 Feb 2016, 3:22 pm #46

(02 Feb 2016, 1:07 pm)Jimmi I'm guessing in the North East we went with quantity rather than quality in our Enviro 400's, especially as the ones for the 7 where they were purchased for additional capacity, so it probably wouldn't be best getting Enviro 400's that probably would be licensed to carry around the same number of passengers as the Pulsars they replaced, although the E400's would obviously have a higher seating capacity and lower standing capacity. Not sampled Stagecoach Gold yet but the seats seem the same as the Enviro 400 MMC demonstrator GNE trialled last year, which is what I think Arriva should have gone with for their MAX and Sapphire buses.

I have used Gold services in Oxford. I have sampled their S series a few times now.
Whilst there may be slight differences, it isn't noticeable.

To be honest, I cant notice the difference with GNE, Max nor Sapphire with regard to the plether they use.

I have noticed the lack of pitch and the angle of the seats on all and it does nowt for me.
No comfort at all as far as I am concerned. Regardless of the seating material.

I note Bensons for Beds and similar chain stores have a scale for their mattresses.
If a major bed retailer has to offer a range of support levels to appease their customers, then no wonder operators can't win over everyone.

If the operators asked what passengers were after, in terms of comfort, material, legroom, pitch, angles etc., I wonder what would win?

(02 Feb 2016, 2:54 pm)James101 I wonder if the extra weight is offset by there being less seats overall on the vehicle? I've not done a count but there was clearly less seats on the Gold spec e300s compared to standard Stagecoach. 

The corridor these buses run on is served by 10 buses per hour and appeared to run as a 'walk-on' service Chester whereby as one bus departed the next pulled up out of layover to load. Although running less departures with higher capacity buses would be more economical, it could be argued that the combination of high spec interior plus ultra frequent Departures is more appealing to motorists opting to be first time bus users. Maybe this is the thinking behind this 'quality over quantity' and it may pay off in the long term

Pump priming a service is certainly not a new thing, but a massive gamble when doing it with high spec vehicles.


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