Newcastle City Centre Developments
Newcastle City Centre Developments
(16 Jan 2021, 12:12 pm)Rob44 just seen on FB the worsick streets old bus station has eventually come down. Anyone know what's going up in its place or has it just ben taken down for some other reason like safty?
(16 Jan 2021, 12:12 pm)Rob44 just seen on FB the worsick streets old bus station has eventually come down. Anyone know what's going up in its place or has it just ben taken down for some other reason like safty?
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...r-22033508
An interesting one.
Whilst I agree with the idea in principle, in reality it's going to have a negative effect on the city.
Relying on public transport to get home at the end of the night - that doesn't exist for a huge part of the region or is slow, awkward, cumbersome, involves changes and doesn't allow for much shopping bag space - isn't going to be attractive to the majority of those people who choose to drive/park in the city centre on an evening.
Forcing people out of their cars isn't the way forward imo.
(03 Nov 2021, 10:27 am)Andreos1 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...r-22033508
An interesting one.
Whilst I agree with the idea in principle, in reality it's going to have a negative effect on the city.
Relying on public transport to get home at the end of the night - that doesn't exist for a huge part of the region or is slow, awkward, cumbersome, involves changes and doesn't allow for much shopping bag space - isn't going to be attractive to the majority of those people who choose to drive/park in the city centre on an evening.
Forcing people out of their cars isn't the way forward imo.
(03 Nov 2021, 10:27 am)Andreos1 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...r-22033508
An interesting one.
Whilst I agree with the idea in principle, in reality it's going to have a negative effect on the city.
Relying on public transport to get home at the end of the night - that doesn't exist for a huge part of the region or is slow, awkward, cumbersome, involves changes and doesn't allow for much shopping bag space - isn't going to be attractive to the majority of those people who choose to drive/park in the city centre on an evening.
Forcing people out of their cars isn't the way forward imo.
(03 Nov 2021, 10:32 am)Storx It's a terrible idea. The council are naive to believe people will change to public transport. All that'll happen is people will go to the Metro Centre, Morpeth, Silverlink, Boldon, Cramlington and so on instead where there's still free parking. They seem to forget that cars don't have to go into Newcastle and people driving in are very unlikely drinking anyway so the options are all over the place. There's plenty of nice restaurants and entertainment ie. cinemas throughout the region without touching Newcastle (most which are cheaper anyway).
(03 Nov 2021, 10:32 am)Storx It's a terrible idea. The council are naive to believe people will change to public transport. All that'll happen is people will go to the Metro Centre, Morpeth, Silverlink, Boldon, Cramlington and so on instead where there's still free parking. They seem to forget that cars don't have to go into Newcastle and people driving in are very unlikely drinking anyway so the options are all over the place. There's plenty of nice restaurants and entertainment ie. cinemas throughout the region without touching Newcastle (most which are cheaper anyway).
(03 Nov 2021, 8:19 pm)Andreos1 Assuming those people parking after 5 are actually leisure customers and not people working in the night time economy.
It almost defeats the point of a low waged worker, going to work. Bearing in mind a chunk of their hourly wage will be spent on parking now.
Then there's this:
https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2021-...ce=NewsApp&utm_medium=SocialShare
'weak public transport costing economy'. Yet they're wanting to get rid of free parking
There's also a quote from a bloke who lives in Crawcrook and relies on lifts to get to work 7 miles down the road.
(03 Nov 2021, 8:19 pm)Andreos1 Assuming those people parking after 5 are actually leisure customers and not people working in the night time economy.
It almost defeats the point of a low waged worker, going to work. Bearing in mind a chunk of their hourly wage will be spent on parking now.
Then there's this:
https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2021-...ce=NewsApp&utm_medium=SocialShare
'weak public transport costing economy'. Yet they're wanting to get rid of free parking
There's also a quote from a bloke who lives in Crawcrook and relies on lifts to get to work 7 miles down the road.
If the city has been told it needs to address it’s illegal levels of pollution as quickly as possible, and therefore encourage sustainable travel options, it would be ridiculous to meanwhile continue offer free parking which acts as a magnet drawing cars into the city centre.
Metro offering free parking at their Park & Ride sites is a good move to help regain patronage.
Many people can’t afford cars and Newcastle has a lower than average car ownership. It’s rather unfair free parking has been offered for so long but not free (or at least cheaper) public transport.
https://twitter.com/newcastlecc/status/1...00134?s=21
(04 Nov 2021, 1:26 pm)ne14ne1 If the city has been told it needs to address it’s illegal levels of pollution as quickly as possible, and therefore encourage sustainable travel options, it would be ridiculous to meanwhile continue offer free parking which acts as a magnet drawing cars into the city centre.
Metro offering free parking at their Park & Ride sites is a good move to help regain patronage.
Many people can’t afford cars and Newcastle has a lower than average car ownership. It’s rather unfair free parking has been offered for so long but not free (or at least cheaper) public transport.
https://twitter.com/newcastlecc/status/1...00134?s=21
(04 Nov 2021, 1:26 pm)ne14ne1 If the city has been told it needs to address it’s illegal levels of pollution as quickly as possible, and therefore encourage sustainable travel options, it would be ridiculous to meanwhile continue offer free parking which acts as a magnet drawing cars into the city centre.
Metro offering free parking at their Park & Ride sites is a good move to help regain patronage.
Many people can’t afford cars and Newcastle has a lower than average car ownership. It’s rather unfair free parking has been offered for so long but not free (or at least cheaper) public transport.
https://twitter.com/newcastlecc/status/1...00134?s=21
(04 Nov 2021, 6:41 pm)Andreos1 I agree with all of the points you have made - but it doesn't alter the fact that we have public transport system which doesn't offer a viable alternative to parking the car for quite a large portion of the population.Joined up thinking is something that is impossible in transport. Even individual bus companies cant timetable busses to connect .
Until there is some sort of joined up thinking, network development and whatever else - people are going to go where it is free (pollution problem solved for NCC) or continue parking in the city centre (pollution problem not solved but revenues are huge).
(04 Nov 2021, 6:41 pm)Andreos1 I agree with all of the points you have made - but it doesn't alter the fact that we have public transport system which doesn't offer a viable alternative to parking the car for quite a large portion of the population.Joined up thinking is something that is impossible in transport. Even individual bus companies cant timetable busses to connect .
Until there is some sort of joined up thinking, network development and whatever else - people are going to go where it is free (pollution problem solved for NCC) or continue parking in the city centre (pollution problem not solved but revenues are huge).
(04 Nov 2021, 6:47 pm)54APhotography Joined up thinking is something that is impossible in transport. Even individual bus companies cant timetable busses to connect .
(04 Nov 2021, 6:47 pm)54APhotography Joined up thinking is something that is impossible in transport. Even individual bus companies cant timetable busses to connect .
(04 Nov 2021, 1:26 pm)ne14ne1 If the city has been told it needs to address it’s illegal levels of pollution as quickly as possible, and therefore encourage sustainable travel options, it would be ridiculous to meanwhile continue offer free parking which acts as a magnet drawing cars into the city centre.
Metro offering free parking at their Park & Ride sites is a good move to help regain patronage.
Many people can’t afford cars and Newcastle has a lower than average car ownership. It’s rather unfair free parking has been offered for so long but not free (or at least cheaper) public transport.
https://twitter.com/newcastlecc/status/1...00134?s=21
(04 Nov 2021, 1:26 pm)ne14ne1 If the city has been told it needs to address it’s illegal levels of pollution as quickly as possible, and therefore encourage sustainable travel options, it would be ridiculous to meanwhile continue offer free parking which acts as a magnet drawing cars into the city centre.
Metro offering free parking at their Park & Ride sites is a good move to help regain patronage.
Many people can’t afford cars and Newcastle has a lower than average car ownership. It’s rather unfair free parking has been offered for so long but not free (or at least cheaper) public transport.
https://twitter.com/newcastlecc/status/1...00134?s=21
A couple of new suggestions for a third bus station in Central Newcastle cropped up on SkyscraperCity recently, if anyones interested:
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/b...2/page-116
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-62093142
Interesting developments in Newcastle. Staff to be provided with taxis home
(08 Jul 2022, 2:55 pm)Andreos1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-62093142Interesting read, of course people could say this may be more expensive than buses, but depends very much on take up ..
Interesting developments in Newcastle. Staff to be provided with taxis home
(08 Jul 2022, 2:55 pm)Andreos1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-62093142Interesting read, of course people could say this may be more expensive than buses, but depends very much on take up ..
Interesting developments in Newcastle. Staff to be provided with taxis home
(08 Jul 2022, 3:07 pm)54APhotography Interesting read, of course people could say this may be more expensive than buses, but depends very much on take up ..Well, if you're finishing your shift around or after midnight, you're stuffed for catching the bus, anyhow.
(08 Jul 2022, 3:07 pm)54APhotography Interesting read, of course people could say this may be more expensive than buses, but depends very much on take up ..Well, if you're finishing your shift around or after midnight, you're stuffed for catching the bus, anyhow.
(08 Jul 2022, 10:07 pm)BusLoverMum Well, if you're finishing your shift around or after midnight, you're stuffed for catching the bus, anyhow.Agree absolutely, the critics will of course see a council funded taxi fare as excessive and use a bus fare as a comparison, even if there isn't a bus at that time ?♂️
(08 Jul 2022, 10:07 pm)BusLoverMum Well, if you're finishing your shift around or after midnight, you're stuffed for catching the bus, anyhow.Agree absolutely, the critics will of course see a council funded taxi fare as excessive and use a bus fare as a comparison, even if there isn't a bus at that time ?♂️
(08 Jul 2022, 10:07 pm)BusLoverMum Well, if you're finishing your shift around or after midnight, you're stuffed for catching the bus, anyhow.Half expecting the operators to get their begging bowls out and ask why they're not involved in this scheme
(09 Jul 2022, 8:50 am)DeltaMan Yes, a load of extra late turns will do wonders for driver retention in the North East....Just get a load of new recruits with even poorer terms than the more experienced drivers and it will be sorted.
(09 Jul 2022, 8:50 am)DeltaMan Yes, a load of extra late turns will do wonders for driver retention in the North East....Just get a load of new recruits with even poorer terms than the more experienced drivers and it will be sorted.