Go North East: 2018/19 Financial Year Order Predictions
Go North East: 2018/19 Financial Year Order Predictions
(30 Oct 2018, 12:20 am)JP6004 AaaaahPenny dropped there eventually!
(30 Oct 2018, 12:20 am)JP6004 AaaaahPenny dropped there eventually!
(30 Oct 2018, 6:09 am)Dan Penny dropped there eventually!
I may be proven wrong as this one is just my personal opinion, but there is limited scope for use of those Hybrids and as I say, the Hybrid nature of them means that there are expensive bills to pay as soon as they're out of warranty
Technology moves on and actually they cost quite a bit to run compared to a Euro 6 diesel Solo.
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(30 Oct 2018, 6:09 am)Dan Penny dropped there eventually!
I may be proven wrong as this one is just my personal opinion, but there is limited scope for use of those Hybrids and as I say, the Hybrid nature of them means that there are expensive bills to pay as soon as they're out of warranty
Technology moves on and actually they cost quite a bit to run compared to a Euro 6 diesel Solo.
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(30 Oct 2018, 8:08 am)Michael Shame because they're decent buses, will the new solo's have Stop Announcements built in?
The current ones have them, but not sure whos choice it was to put them in, because i've used it a few times and the standard compared to the likes of the Fab 56 etc, aren't very good...
(30 Oct 2018, 8:08 am)Michael Shame because they're decent buses, will the new solo's have Stop Announcements built in?
The current ones have them, but not sure whos choice it was to put them in, because i've used it a few times and the standard compared to the likes of the Fab 56 etc, aren't very good...
(30 Oct 2018, 8:26 am)Dan It's Nexus-owned kit and the media was programmed by them.
Existing kit from current buses will be transferred to the new buses.
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(30 Oct 2018, 8:57 pm)Dan Nope. All down to Nexus.
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(30 Oct 2018, 8:57 pm)Dan Nope. All down to Nexus.
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Wright streetdeck micro-hybrid 3
Fab fifty six (6334-6348)
plus 2 spare (6349 and 6350)
To be given new orange and black 'fab fifty six' branding.
Wright gemini 2 eclipse
Crusaders (former fab fifty six plus back ups 6085-6100) Plus 6043 and 6084 to fill full crusader PVR
Replacing mercs plus burn down 5319 to start phasing out more solars as well as giving more capacity/flexability for the crusaders.
6159-61 brung in from Stanley for back ups on 10s,26/27 and X9/10 with long omnidekkas taking their place at Consett
(10 Nov 2018, 10:02 pm)JM03 Wright streetdeck micro-hybrid 3
Fab fifty six (6334-6348)
plus 2 spare (6349 and 6350)
To be given new orange and black 'fab fifty six' branding.
Wright gemini 2 eclipse
Crusaders (former fab fifty six plus back ups 6085-6100) Plus 6043 and 6084 to fill full crusader PVR
Replacing mercs plus burn down 5319 to start phasing out more solars as well as giving more capacity/flexability for the crusaders.
6159-61 brung in from Stanley for back ups on 10s,26/27 and X9/10 with long omnidekkas taking their place at Consett
(10 Nov 2018, 10:02 pm)JM03 Wright streetdeck micro-hybrid 3
Fab fifty six (6334-6348)
plus 2 spare (6349 and 6350)
To be given new orange and black 'fab fifty six' branding.
Wright gemini 2 eclipse
Crusaders (former fab fifty six plus back ups 6085-6100) Plus 6043 and 6084 to fill full crusader PVR
Replacing mercs plus burn down 5319 to start phasing out more solars as well as giving more capacity/flexability for the crusaders.
6159-61 brung in from Stanley for back ups on 10s,26/27 and X9/10 with long omnidekkas taking their place at Consett
I do agree with The 9 getting the streetlites.
Crusader being upgrade to Enviro 400 or 300 single decker or scaina omnicites.
(30 Dec 2018, 10:57 am)busmanT Need to add reliability to the list of things considered as part of the evaluation of new buses - although Go North East have no experience of ADL double deck products in recent years, other parts of Go Ahead do.
(30 Dec 2018, 10:57 am)busmanT Need to add reliability to the list of things considered as part of the evaluation of new buses - although Go North East have no experience of ADL double deck products in recent years, other parts of Go Ahead do.
I don't think GNE would buy anymore Streetlites after it was rumoured the current MD had bad experience with Wright Products during his time at Reading Buses. I'm hoping for Optare Products myself.
(31 Dec 2018, 4:57 pm)Rapidsnap I don't think GNE would buy anymore Streetlites after it was rumoured the current MD had bad experience with Wright Products during his time at Reading Buses. I'm hoping for Optare Products myself.
(31 Dec 2018, 4:57 pm)Rapidsnap I don't think GNE would buy anymore Streetlites after it was rumoured the current MD had bad experience with Wright Products during his time at Reading Buses. I'm hoping for Optare Products myself.
(31 Dec 2018, 4:57 pm)Rapidsnap I don't think GNE would buy anymore Streetlites after it was rumoured the current MD had bad experience with Wright Products during his time at Reading Buses. I'm hoping for Optare Products myself.
(31 Dec 2018, 4:57 pm)Rapidsnap I don't think GNE would buy anymore Streetlites after it was rumoured the current MD had bad experience with Wright Products during his time at Reading Buses. I'm hoping for Optare Products myself.
(31 Dec 2018, 4:38 pm)Michael Hopefully that doesn't put them off, as its a completely new demo bus, we expected a few niggles but i think the E400 has done well (according to other people) so hopefully those niggles are put down to it being completely new.
For 2018:
I think we'll see more Streetlites coming in, ready for June/July, for the start of the Scania L94 withdrawal's... however only routes I could see getting new Streetlites is the Loop and 35 (standardising the types of buses at Deptford) along with new Streetlites arriving for the Quaylink, pushing the Versa's out on most of the Scania routes (Green Arrow), 13, 14 and X25.
23 new Streetlites for the Quaylink including 2 spare = total of 25
8 new Streetlites for the 35 + 1 spare = total of 9.
8 Streetlites for the Loop + 1 spare = total of 9
Cascades would be:
10 Versa for the Green Arrow - but brand dropped
10 Versa for the 13, 14 and X25
Withdrawals:
If my numbers are right, (which they'll not be!) it withdraws almost all the Scania’s and just leaves 5229, 5230, 5231, 5232 in service but some of the 2004 batch could be left in service as spares.
Although, we know Go North East won't buy as many Streetlites as above, this is a suggestion, if they wanted to get rid of them straight away, as some are now 17 years old....
(31 Dec 2018, 4:38 pm)Michael Hopefully that doesn't put them off, as its a completely new demo bus, we expected a few niggles but i think the E400 has done well (according to other people) so hopefully those niggles are put down to it being completely new.
For 2018:
I think we'll see more Streetlites coming in, ready for June/July, for the start of the Scania L94 withdrawal's... however only routes I could see getting new Streetlites is the Loop and 35 (standardising the types of buses at Deptford) along with new Streetlites arriving for the Quaylink, pushing the Versa's out on most of the Scania routes (Green Arrow), 13, 14 and X25.
23 new Streetlites for the Quaylink including 2 spare = total of 25
8 new Streetlites for the 35 + 1 spare = total of 9.
8 Streetlites for the Loop + 1 spare = total of 9
Cascades would be:
10 Versa for the Green Arrow - but brand dropped
10 Versa for the 13, 14 and X25
Withdrawals:
If my numbers are right, (which they'll not be!) it withdraws almost all the Scania’s and just leaves 5229, 5230, 5231, 5232 in service but some of the 2004 batch could be left in service as spares.
Although, we know Go North East won't buy as many Streetlites as above, this is a suggestion, if they wanted to get rid of them straight away, as some are now 17 years old....
Wright Streetairs are a joke. Lothian ordered 12, but cancelled their order after 6 arrived after they turned out to be quite poor. Plus they are short wheelbase and would in no way cope with the loads on the Q3.
(31 Dec 2018, 9:53 pm)GNE6312 My suggestion would be:Spare buses are being kept to a minimum, so that isn't happening.
18 new streetairs (like the lothian ones) for the Q3
(5501-18) +12 spare (5519-30) +13 for the q1 + 12 fir the Q1/2(5531-43)
The 12 spares mean 6 spares for each route
8 new, eclipse 3s for the loop (5601-08) + 5 spare (5609-13)
8 more streetairs for the city link 58 (5544-51)+
5 spare (5552-56)
This will allow to transferr MOST of riversides versas to other depots to withdraw MOST of the L94s to be withdrawn
Let me know your thoughts
(31 Dec 2018, 9:53 pm)GNE6312 My suggestion would be:Spare buses are being kept to a minimum, so that isn't happening.
18 new streetairs (like the lothian ones) for the Q3
(5501-18) +12 spare (5519-30) +13 for the q1 + 12 fir the Q1/2(5531-43)
The 12 spares mean 6 spares for each route
8 new, eclipse 3s for the loop (5601-08) + 5 spare (5609-13)
8 more streetairs for the city link 58 (5544-51)+
5 spare (5552-56)
This will allow to transferr MOST of riversides versas to other depots to withdraw MOST of the L94s to be withdrawn
Let me know your thoughts
(31 Dec 2018, 9:53 pm)GNE6312 My suggestion would be:
18 new streetairs (like the lothian ones) for the Q3
(5501-18) +12 spare (5519-30) +13 for the q1 + 12 fir the Q1/2(5531-43)
The 12 spares mean 6 spares for each route
8 new, eclipse 3s for the loop (5601-08) + 5 spare (5609-13)
8 more streetairs for the city link 58 (5544-51)+
5 spare (5552-56)
This will allow to transferr MOST of riversides versas to other depots to withdraw MOST of the L94s to be withdrawn
Let me know your thoughts
(31 Dec 2018, 9:53 pm)GNE6312 My suggestion would be:
18 new streetairs (like the lothian ones) for the Q3
(5501-18) +12 spare (5519-30) +13 for the q1 + 12 fir the Q1/2(5531-43)
The 12 spares mean 6 spares for each route
8 new, eclipse 3s for the loop (5601-08) + 5 spare (5609-13)
8 more streetairs for the city link 58 (5544-51)+
5 spare (5552-56)
This will allow to transferr MOST of riversides versas to other depots to withdraw MOST of the L94s to be withdrawn
Let me know your thoughts