X9 | X10 - Acquisition of interdeck coaches from Oxford Bus Company
X9 | X10 - Acquisition of interdeck coaches from Oxford Bus Company
(22 Jun 2021, 3:31 pm)streetdeckfan Unless they've changed their policy recently, no.Are day rovers valid on it (within Tyne and Wear)?
Even going Newcastle to Gateshead requires the X9/X10 ticket (or a 5-25 ticket)
(22 Jun 2021, 5:15 pm)Adrian It's a very good question, but not one I have the answer to!I bet there's been a lot of people who've done the same thing in boarding the x10 with a "normal" GNE day ticket only to find it isn't valid. I really do think it's unnecessarily confusing to exclude one service from the standard day ticket.
First time I used the new Go Zones ticket, I (incorrectly) assumed that the All Zones ticket would be valid to Dalton Park. So you can imagine my disappointment when the ETM honked at me.
(22 Jun 2021, 5:15 pm)Adrian It's a very good question, but not one I have the answer to!I bet there's been a lot of people who've done the same thing in boarding the x10 with a "normal" GNE day ticket only to find it isn't valid. I really do think it's unnecessarily confusing to exclude one service from the standard day ticket.
First time I used the new Go Zones ticket, I (incorrectly) assumed that the All Zones ticket would be valid to Dalton Park. So you can imagine my disappointment when the ETM honked at me.
Not wanting to cause a stir, but I've noticed a lot of tweets for breakdowns on X9/X10, and most days I see either 6377 or a B9 running down the A19.
Although obviously more reliable than 6308-13, are they that reliable?
(07 Jul 2021, 11:25 pm)jasondarby123 Not wanting to cause a stir, but I've noticed a lot of tweets for breakdowns on X9/X10, and most days I see either 6377 or a B9 running down the A19.Those elites are abysmally unreliable and personally I think getting them has turned from a good thing to an awful idea. Would have been better using more heavy duty service buses (Snania E400MMCs or 6 Cylinder Streetdecks) allocated. Wouldn't be surprised if an older service bus outlives those coaches
Although obviously more reliable than 6308-13, are they that reliable?
(07 Jul 2021, 11:25 pm)jasondarby123 Not wanting to cause a stir, but I've noticed a lot of tweets for breakdowns on X9/X10, and most days I see either 6377 or a B9 running down the A19.Those elites are abysmally unreliable and personally I think getting them has turned from a good thing to an awful idea. Would have been better using more heavy duty service buses (Snania E400MMCs or 6 Cylinder Streetdecks) allocated. Wouldn't be surprised if an older service bus outlives those coaches
Although obviously more reliable than 6308-13, are they that reliable?
(08 Jul 2021, 6:44 am)GNE6312 Those elites are abysmally unreliable and personally I think getting them has turned from a good thing to an awful idea. Would have been better using more heavy duty service buses (Snania E400MMCs or 6 Cylinder Streetdecks) allocated. Wouldn't be surprised if an older service bus outlives those coachesYou've also got to remember they ain't exactly spring chickens either, they're 6 year old
(08 Jul 2021, 6:44 am)GNE6312 Those elites are abysmally unreliable and personally I think getting them has turned from a good thing to an awful idea. Would have been better using more heavy duty service buses (Snania E400MMCs or 6 Cylinder Streetdecks) allocated. Wouldn't be surprised if an older service bus outlives those coachesYou've also got to remember they ain't exactly spring chickens either, they're 6 year old
(08 Jul 2021, 6:44 am)GNE6312 Those elites are abysmally unreliable and personally I think getting them has turned from a good thing to an awful idea. Would have been better using more heavy duty service buses (Snania E400MMCs or 6 Cylinder Streetdecks) allocated. Wouldn't be surprised if an older service bus outlives those coaches
(08 Jul 2021, 6:44 am)GNE6312 Those elites are abysmally unreliable and personally I think getting them has turned from a good thing to an awful idea. Would have been better using more heavy duty service buses (Snania E400MMCs or 6 Cylinder Streetdecks) allocated. Wouldn't be surprised if an older service bus outlives those coaches
I'd imagine that the engineering team are still learning about the Elites as and when problems arise which may explain why they're off the road longer.
There lush Coaches. Getting them for the X9/X10 was a good idea.
Yea maybe E400MMC would have been a good idea but the service gets quite busy so I could understand the upgrade to Coaches
(08 Jul 2021, 12:47 pm)Micheal Aaron There lush Coaches. Getting them for the X9/X10 was a good idea.
Yea maybe E400MMC would have been a good idea but the service gets quite busy so I could understand the upgrade to Coaches
(08 Jul 2021, 12:47 pm)Micheal Aaron There lush Coaches. Getting them for the X9/X10 was a good idea.
Yea maybe E400MMC would have been a good idea but the service gets quite busy so I could understand the upgrade to Coaches
(08 Jul 2021, 1:40 pm)streetdeckfan Weren't the coaches actually a downgrade in capacity?I think they were slightly but not by very much. I may be wrong but I think it's only something like four seats less than the previous double deckers.
(08 Jul 2021, 3:08 pm)Andreos1 Any idea why?
Was just thinking those coaches that Coatham are borrowing would have been ideal to cover all these reported breakdowns.
(08 Jul 2021, 3:08 pm)Andreos1 Any idea why?
Was just thinking those coaches that Coatham are borrowing would have been ideal to cover all these reported breakdowns.
(08 Jul 2021, 3:08 pm)Andreos1 Any idea why?
Was just thinking those coaches that Coatham are borrowing would have been ideal to cover all these reported breakdowns.
(08 Jul 2021, 3:16 pm)mb134 "This is due to a high number of non-work related track and trace app self-isolation alerts and resultant short-term disruption to staffing requirements."
I'd imagine, given the decision to completely pull an hourly service rather than reducing the frequency on something else, it might be an indication of the X9 not recovering as well from the pandemic?
(08 Jul 2021, 3:08 pm)Andreos1 Any idea why?
Was just thinking those coaches that Coatham are borrowing would have been ideal to cover all these reported breakdowns.
(08 Jul 2021, 3:16 pm)mb134 "This is due to a high number of non-work related track and trace app self-isolation alerts and resultant short-term disruption to staffing requirements."
I'd imagine, given the decision to completely pull an hourly service rather than reducing the frequency on something else, it might be an indication of the X9 not recovering as well from the pandemic?
Surprised to see a whole service knocked on the head, taking it down to hourly Newcastle to Middlesbrough. Especially when Nexus contracts and Arriva work is still being covered. You'd think their own commercial routes would take precedence.
Everywhere seems to be getting hit by track and trace pings at the moment, but we should remember that bus operators started dropping the right to maintain social distancing on board about 6 weeks ago now, convincing us it was a safe move. Despite rising case numbers, and evidently requests for staff to enter isolation.
(08 Jul 2021, 2:22 pm)User2613 X9 is being suspended from 12th July
(08 Jul 2021, 2:22 pm)User2613 X9 is being suspended from 12th July
(08 Jul 2021, 4:22 pm)Adrian Surprised to see a whole service knocked on the head, taking it down to hourly Newcastle to Middlesbrough. Especially when Nexus contracts and Arriva work is still being covered. You'd think their own commercial routes would take precedence.We should also remember that there reasoning for this reduction clearly states 'non-work related track and trace app self-isolation alerts'. Nothing to do with increased capacity?
Everywhere seems to be getting hit by track and trace pings at the moment, but we should remember that bus operators started dropping the right to maintain social distancing on board about 6 weeks ago now, convincing us it was a safe move. Despite rising case numbers, and evidently requests for staff to enter isolation.
(08 Jul 2021, 4:22 pm)Adrian Surprised to see a whole service knocked on the head, taking it down to hourly Newcastle to Middlesbrough. Especially when Nexus contracts and Arriva work is still being covered. You'd think their own commercial routes would take precedence.We should also remember that there reasoning for this reduction clearly states 'non-work related track and trace app self-isolation alerts'. Nothing to do with increased capacity?
Everywhere seems to be getting hit by track and trace pings at the moment, but we should remember that bus operators started dropping the right to maintain social distancing on board about 6 weeks ago now, convincing us it was a safe move. Despite rising case numbers, and evidently requests for staff to enter isolation.
(08 Jul 2021, 6:07 pm)RobinHood We should also remember that there reasoning for this reduction clearly states 'non-work related track and trace app self-isolation alerts'. Nothing to do with increased capacity?
(08 Jul 2021, 6:07 pm)RobinHood We should also remember that there reasoning for this reduction clearly states 'non-work related track and trace app self-isolation alerts'. Nothing to do with increased capacity?