Go North East - Second-hand vehicle acquisitions
Go North East - Second-hand vehicle acquisitions
(10 Apr 2024, 9:30 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Seems sensible to opt for a leaner approach cutting out cosmetic steps that add time and cost to processes unneccessarily - arguably should never have been wasting time and money on that while cutting services etc ... but if only they were using the resource released as a result to address some of the more serious issues affecting the fleet, including vehicles looking in a shocking state (i.e. much worse than not just not having black window trims)
(10 Apr 2024, 9:30 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Seems sensible to opt for a leaner approach cutting out cosmetic steps that add time and cost to processes unneccessarily - arguably should never have been wasting time and money on that while cutting services etc ... but if only they were using the resource released as a result to address some of the more serious issues affecting the fleet, including vehicles looking in a shocking state (i.e. much worse than not just not having black window trims)
Is the Wright build so bad that 6 year old buses are dropping like flies?
The Hybrids were equally troublesome so why go back to Wright? It’s poor management. They’ve either followed the cheaper deal, ignored the engineer or the engineer and procurement team are incompetent
(10 Apr 2024, 9:40 pm)Ambassador Is the Wright build so bad that 6 year old buses are dropping like flies?
The Hybrids were equally troublesome so why go back to Wright? It’s poor management. They’ve either followed the cheaper deal, ignored the engineer or the engineer and procurement team are incompetent
(10 Apr 2024, 9:40 pm)Ambassador Is the Wright build so bad that 6 year old buses are dropping like flies?
The Hybrids were equally troublesome so why go back to Wright? It’s poor management. They’ve either followed the cheaper deal, ignored the engineer or the engineer and procurement team are incompetent
(10 Apr 2024, 9:40 pm)Ambassador Is the Wright build so bad that 6 year old buses are dropping like flies?
The Hybrids were equally troublesome so why go back to Wright? It’s poor management. They’ve either followed the cheaper deal, ignored the engineer or the engineer and procurement team are incompetent
(10 Apr 2024, 9:40 pm)Ambassador Is the Wright build so bad that 6 year old buses are dropping like flies?
The Hybrids were equally troublesome so why go back to Wright? It’s poor management. They’ve either followed the cheaper deal, ignored the engineer or the engineer and procurement team are incompetent
(11 Apr 2024, 5:25 am)Dan Most of the issues with StreetDecks tended to be on the engine (Mercedes) side rather than the Wrightbus side.
I’ve mentioned before but there aren’t vast swathes of people behind the scenes, so your version of “engineering and procurement teams” is literally just one Engineering Director that has a personal preference, though this is changing in favour of a more centralised Go-Ahead model.
The previous Engineering Director favoured Wrightbus - not really due to cost but largely because of the availability of parts at the time (never recovered since they went into liquidation) - which is why GNE standardised upon a fleet of them.
The current Engineering Director (ex-Stagecoach) prefers ADL - but, to be honest and appreciating this isn’t a popular answer for the ADL fanboys on this forum, they are equally as poor for reliability (based on a % of those operated).
The most reliable buses I have experienced by far appear to be those built by Yutong, but a change in leadership at Go-Ahead means they will now be few and far between.
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(11 Apr 2024, 5:25 am)Dan Most of the issues with StreetDecks tended to be on the engine (Mercedes) side rather than the Wrightbus side.
I’ve mentioned before but there aren’t vast swathes of people behind the scenes, so your version of “engineering and procurement teams” is literally just one Engineering Director that has a personal preference, though this is changing in favour of a more centralised Go-Ahead model.
The previous Engineering Director favoured Wrightbus - not really due to cost but largely because of the availability of parts at the time (never recovered since they went into liquidation) - which is why GNE standardised upon a fleet of them.
The current Engineering Director (ex-Stagecoach) prefers ADL - but, to be honest and appreciating this isn’t a popular answer for the ADL fanboys on this forum, they are equally as poor for reliability (based on a % of those operated).
The most reliable buses I have experienced by far appear to be those built by Yutong, but a change in leadership at Go-Ahead means they will now be few and far between.
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(11 Apr 2024, 5:25 am)Dan The current Engineering Director (ex-Stagecoach) prefers ADL - but, to be honest and appreciating this isn’t a popular answer for the ADL fanboys on this forum, they are equally as poor for reliability (based on a % of those operated).
(11 Apr 2024, 5:25 am)Dan The current Engineering Director (ex-Stagecoach) prefers ADL - but, to be honest and appreciating this isn’t a popular answer for the ADL fanboys on this forum, they are equally as poor for reliability (based on a % of those operated).
(11 Apr 2024, 7:41 am)streetdeckfan Is that not more to do with the inherent reliability advantages of an electric drivetrain rather than down to the particular manufacturer?
(11 Apr 2024, 8:25 am)F114TML As an example, just gone on coach & bus market. McGills want £45k for an E200. Or for an extra grand, you could buy;
B7TL ELC Myllenium
Optare Solo M850
Setra S416 GT-HD executive coach (ok that one's really cheap for what you get but still)
Ex-Dublin Volvo Olympian
(11 Apr 2024, 8:25 am)F114TML As an example, just gone on coach & bus market. McGills want £45k for an E200. Or for an extra grand, you could buy;
B7TL ELC Myllenium
Optare Solo M850
Setra S416 GT-HD executive coach (ok that one's really cheap for what you get but still)
Ex-Dublin Volvo Olympian
(11 Apr 2024, 12:36 pm)Storx I'm not a fan of ADL, but you've picked some horrid buses there mind other than the coach since the Olympian is unusable due to DDA.
Solo's are horrid little things and ELC's fall apart.
(11 Apr 2024, 12:36 pm)Storx I'm not a fan of ADL, but you've picked some horrid buses there mind other than the coach since the Olympian is unusable due to DDA.
Solo's are horrid little things and ELC's fall apart.
(11 Apr 2024, 1:35 pm)F114TML In fairness there's not much on C&BW at the moment, although there'll be plenty other buses elsewhere. Point is you can get a lot for the price of an E200. Weardale have a double deck omnicity on there for 25k. Elsewhere I know there's tridents going for sub-15k. Even if they don't last as long, you'd still get much more use out of them. Olympian could still have use, for example as private hire.
(11 Apr 2024, 1:35 pm)F114TML In fairness there's not much on C&BW at the moment, although there'll be plenty other buses elsewhere. Point is you can get a lot for the price of an E200. Weardale have a double deck omnicity on there for 25k. Elsewhere I know there's tridents going for sub-15k. Even if they don't last as long, you'd still get much more use out of them. Olympian could still have use, for example as private hire.
(10 Apr 2024, 9:40 pm)Ambassador Is the Wright build so bad that 6 year old buses are dropping like flies?
The Hybrids were equally troublesome so why go back to Wright? It’s poor management. They’ve either followed the cheaper deal, ignored the engineer or the engineer and procurement team are incompetent
(10 Apr 2024, 9:40 pm)Ambassador Is the Wright build so bad that 6 year old buses are dropping like flies?
The Hybrids were equally troublesome so why go back to Wright? It’s poor management. They’ve either followed the cheaper deal, ignored the engineer or the engineer and procurement team are incompetent
(11 Apr 2024, 7:19 pm)Tiger5105 Durham Diamond E400 6235 tonight. Looks like there's 3 or 4 at Consett now. 6232 is another.
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(11 Apr 2024, 7:19 pm)Tiger5105 Durham Diamond E400 6235 tonight. Looks like there's 3 or 4 at Consett now. 6232 is another.
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Was this an in house design or one of Ray’s specials?
It does continue to surprise me that in a revenue driven cost cutting world that GNE don’t take the advertising cash, they’d be a tempting proposition for any ad sales agency and it might help fund a few newer buses or as importantly, keep a few of the back room team at head office in a job
(11 Apr 2024, 8:36 pm)Rapidsnap Quite possibly they've made a smart move here and put the route branding and the slogans on advert boards allowing them to swap and change them if needed rather than having the peel of the letters off the paint work.
(11 Apr 2024, 8:36 pm)Rapidsnap Quite possibly they've made a smart move here and put the route branding and the slogans on advert boards allowing them to swap and change them if needed rather than having the peel of the letters off the paint work.
(08 Apr 2024, 7:37 pm)Unber43 All the ex-london buses ive been on are absolutely shocking.Not just any USB charging, USB-C charging ports!!! That's about exciting as things get.
https://x.com/liamhall24/status/1777410323437265331 confirms tthey will have USBs, I hope the Drifters get them when they get repainted later this year (hopefully in the same livery)
It will be intresting if the Durham Diamond Livery has changed
(08 Apr 2024, 7:37 pm)Unber43 All the ex-london buses ive been on are absolutely shocking.Not just any USB charging, USB-C charging ports!!! That's about exciting as things get.
https://x.com/liamhall24/status/1777410323437265331 confirms tthey will have USBs, I hope the Drifters get them when they get repainted later this year (hopefully in the same livery)
It will be intresting if the Durham Diamond Livery has changed
(12 Apr 2024, 11:41 am)Jimmi Not just any USB charging, USB-C charging ports!!! That's about exciting as things get.
Only other plus is separate wheelchair and buggy bays, which makes up a fair number of the complaints in the promo post on Facebook page concerning much of the current ex London stock.
(12 Apr 2024, 11:41 am)Jimmi Not just any USB charging, USB-C charging ports!!! That's about exciting as things get.
Only other plus is separate wheelchair and buggy bays, which makes up a fair number of the complaints in the promo post on Facebook page concerning much of the current ex London stock.
