Stagecoach NE Transfers
Stagecoach NE Transfers
(29 Mar 2023, 12:41 pm)Dyllan7817 Appears to be tracking as 39702i think 39701 or 702 has been replaced at shields by one of the scottish E300s, and the 200 has transferred to slatyford for parts removal
(29 Mar 2023, 12:41 pm)Dyllan7817 Appears to be tracking as 39702i think 39701 or 702 has been replaced at shields by one of the scottish E300s, and the 200 has transferred to slatyford for parts removal
(29 Mar 2023, 12:41 pm)Dyllan7817 Appears to be tracking as 39702Look at the 17 diagram it was on the turn in between 37301 and 39702.
(29 Mar 2023, 2:18 pm)toward6931 i think 39701 or 702 has been replaced at shields by one of the scottish E300s, and the 200 has transferred to slatyford for parts removal27631 is the replacement for 39701, that's gone. 39702 goes this weekend.
(29 Mar 2023, 12:41 pm)Dyllan7817 Appears to be tracking as 39702Look at the 17 diagram it was on the turn in between 37301 and 39702.
(29 Mar 2023, 2:18 pm)toward6931 i think 39701 or 702 has been replaced at shields by one of the scottish E300s, and the 200 has transferred to slatyford for parts removal27631 is the replacement for 39701, that's gone. 39702 goes this weekend.
Now that 27248 has moved to Slatyford, can anyone explain how it seems to spend some of the day tracking in Newcastle then suddenly starts tracking in Teesside.
I seem to recall that Stagecoach vehicles are tracked using data from the baseplate on the vehicle. This should mean that a vehicle cannot track as anything other than its true identify - or am I missing something ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated !!
(24 Apr 2023, 11:32 pm)N391OTY Now that 27248 has moved to Slatyford, can anyone explain how it seems to spend some of the day tracking in Newcastle then suddenly starts tracking in Teesside.Errors happen all the time, often service 10 will show Lemington, Grangetown, Lingfield etc. 27248 lost its ticket machine to 22570, seems the new and old are conflicting.
I seem to recall that Stagecoach vehicles are tracked using data from the baseplate on the vehicle. This should mean that a vehicle cannot track as anything other than its true identify - or am I missing something ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated !!
(24 Apr 2023, 11:32 pm)N391OTY Now that 27248 has moved to Slatyford, can anyone explain how it seems to spend some of the day tracking in Newcastle then suddenly starts tracking in Teesside.Errors happen all the time, often service 10 will show Lemington, Grangetown, Lingfield etc. 27248 lost its ticket machine to 22570, seems the new and old are conflicting.
I seem to recall that Stagecoach vehicles are tracked using data from the baseplate on the vehicle. This should mean that a vehicle cannot track as anything other than its true identify - or am I missing something ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated !!
(25 Apr 2023, 7:19 am)54APhotography Errors happen all the time, often service 10 will show Lemington, Grangetown, Lingfield etc. 27248 lost its ticket machine to 22570, seems the new and old are conflicting.
(25 Apr 2023, 7:19 am)54APhotography Errors happen all the time, often service 10 will show Lemington, Grangetown, Lingfield etc. 27248 lost its ticket machine to 22570, seems the new and old are conflicting.
(25 Apr 2023, 8:45 am)Kuyoyo 22428 is the vehicle with a baseplate that shares 27248’s details. 22570 is tracking as 22570.22570 got the machine first apparently if only temporarily. Still doesn't explain why often a vehicle will be on a service in Newcastle yet every other turn be duplicated with one in Sunderland..
Stagecoach’s vehicle data comes from the baseplate not the machine (as does Wayfayer) - unlike Ticketer where the machine holds all the data.
(25 Apr 2023, 8:45 am)Kuyoyo 22428 is the vehicle with a baseplate that shares 27248’s details. 22570 is tracking as 22570.22570 got the machine first apparently if only temporarily. Still doesn't explain why often a vehicle will be on a service in Newcastle yet every other turn be duplicated with one in Sunderland..
Stagecoach’s vehicle data comes from the baseplate not the machine (as does Wayfayer) - unlike Ticketer where the machine holds all the data.
ive been hearing rumors of an ALX300 transferring to Sunderland, sounds abit of a strange transfer, can anyone confirm this?
(29 Apr 2023, 5:32 pm)toward6931 ive been hearing rumors of an ALX300 transferring to Sunderland, sounds abit of a strange transfer, can anyone confirm this?22341 has gone up to Sunderland as Harry posted last night but someone has put it down as local which isn’t Harry’s user, so who knows why it’s gone up…
(29 Apr 2023, 5:32 pm)toward6931 ive been hearing rumors of an ALX300 transferring to Sunderland, sounds abit of a strange transfer, can anyone confirm this?22341 has gone up to Sunderland as Harry posted last night but someone has put it down as local which isn’t Harry’s user, so who knows why it’s gone up…
(15 May 2023, 6:49 pm)AlexRPlays Any updates on Hartlepool Depot for any vehicle transfers?
(15 May 2023, 6:49 pm)AlexRPlays Any updates on Hartlepool Depot for any vehicle transfers?
(16 May 2023, 8:26 am)col87 Unfortunately not. My guess would be though that if and when the Saltburn services start 4 buses will likely be swapped with 4 darts/Enviro 200 going to Stockton and 4 Man/ Enviro 300 coming to Hartlepool in return. I think at least as a short term solution although it might get to the point where the Saltburn 1/2 goes the same way as the 18 did with it registered but the start date been put back a few times before it eventually quietly gets dropped.
(16 May 2023, 8:26 am)col87 Unfortunately not. My guess would be though that if and when the Saltburn services start 4 buses will likely be swapped with 4 darts/Enviro 200 going to Stockton and 4 Man/ Enviro 300 coming to Hartlepool in return. I think at least as a short term solution although it might get to the point where the Saltburn 1/2 goes the same way as the 18 did with it registered but the start date been put back a few times before it eventually quietly gets dropped.
(16 May 2023, 8:41 am)Kuyoyo The plan for the 1/2 was changed late into the original planned start date from E200s from Hartlepool to E200MMCs from the home fleet - simply because Hartlepool cannot maintain any E300s, hence why 27805/12 have entered service at Stockton as replacements for the ALX300s rather than Hartlepool and the two MANs that were due off last month have undergone MOT.Which I don’t get considering until 2010 the current depot managed Volvo B10 Bristol RE, Volvo Olympians, Leyland Lynx Leyland national, Dennis Falcons so I don’t really see what has changed since then.
(16 May 2023, 8:41 am)Kuyoyo The plan for the 1/2 was changed late into the original planned start date from E200s from Hartlepool to E200MMCs from the home fleet - simply because Hartlepool cannot maintain any E300s, hence why 27805/12 have entered service at Stockton as replacements for the ALX300s rather than Hartlepool and the two MANs that were due off last month have undergone MOT.Which I don’t get considering until 2010 the current depot managed Volvo B10 Bristol RE, Volvo Olympians, Leyland Lynx Leyland national, Dennis Falcons so I don’t really see what has changed since then.
(16 May 2023, 10:48 am)col87 Which I don’t get considering until 2010 the current depot managed Volvo B10 Bristol RE, Volvo Olympians, Leyland Lynx Leyland national, Dennis Falcons so I don’t really see what has changed since then.yes because they haven't updated any of the equipment in the engineering department since the 1960s...
(16 May 2023, 10:48 am)col87 Which I don’t get considering until 2010 the current depot managed Volvo B10 Bristol RE, Volvo Olympians, Leyland Lynx Leyland national, Dennis Falcons so I don’t really see what has changed since then.yes because they haven't updated any of the equipment in the engineering department since the 1960s...
(16 May 2023, 11:56 am)F114TML yes because they haven't updated any of the equipment in the engineering department since the 1960s...They had full size buses in 2010 still nothing has changed. A quick google shows that the current enviro 300 enviro 400 and mans are actually about the same as the Volvos where back in 2010 so the excuse of them not fitting over the pits seems slightly weak.
Seems to me it's less an issue of the bus physically fitting in the building, and more the size of the pits themselves?
(16 May 2023, 11:56 am)F114TML yes because they haven't updated any of the equipment in the engineering department since the 1960s...They had full size buses in 2010 still nothing has changed. A quick google shows that the current enviro 300 enviro 400 and mans are actually about the same as the Volvos where back in 2010 so the excuse of them not fitting over the pits seems slightly weak.
Seems to me it's less an issue of the bus physically fitting in the building, and more the size of the pits themselves?
Actually it could well be down to the size of the pits. It's possible the pits are about 11 metres long, so could cope with the likes of the Leyland Lynx, and various high floor single deckers, as back then they didn't have to build to the full 12 metre length to make up for the lost of seats which modern low floor vehicles suffer from due to front wheel arch intrusion and provision of wheelchair and buggy bays. Plus the last of the high floor single deckers Hartlepool had were the Volvo B10M which are mid engined vehicles with the engine in the middle of the bus.
(16 May 2023, 11:37 pm)Rapidsnap Actually it could well be down to the size of the pits. It's possible the pits are about 11 metres long, so could cope with the likes of the Leyland Lynx, and various high floor single deckers, as back then they didn't have to build to the full 12 metre length to make up for the lost of seats which modern low floor vehicles suffer from due to front wheel arch intrusion and provision of wheelchair and buggy bays. Plus the last of the high floor single deckers Hartlepool had were the Volvo B10M which are mid engined vehicles with the engine in the middle of the bus.if that is the case then questions really need to be asked why Stagecoach have not invested on the depot. Saying that the depot used to have a fleet of coaches as well which I think might have been more than 11M and think the RE where about and was plenty of them still about when they moved in that depot am sure they was even a delay in moving there because they had to do work to make sure the pits where big enough. Simple fact is though if the service reductions happen the darts and Manviro won’t cope so they going to have put bigger buses on. I think what eventually happen though is that the depot will close and they will use a small outstation somewhere with most of the fleet then been based at Stockton. They had plenty of chances over the years to extend the depot but now aldi and a pub have been built next to it instead.
(16 May 2023, 11:37 pm)Rapidsnap Actually it could well be down to the size of the pits. It's possible the pits are about 11 metres long, so could cope with the likes of the Leyland Lynx, and various high floor single deckers, as back then they didn't have to build to the full 12 metre length to make up for the lost of seats which modern low floor vehicles suffer from due to front wheel arch intrusion and provision of wheelchair and buggy bays. Plus the last of the high floor single deckers Hartlepool had were the Volvo B10M which are mid engined vehicles with the engine in the middle of the bus.if that is the case then questions really need to be asked why Stagecoach have not invested on the depot. Saying that the depot used to have a fleet of coaches as well which I think might have been more than 11M and think the RE where about and was plenty of them still about when they moved in that depot am sure they was even a delay in moving there because they had to do work to make sure the pits where big enough. Simple fact is though if the service reductions happen the darts and Manviro won’t cope so they going to have put bigger buses on. I think what eventually happen though is that the depot will close and they will use a small outstation somewhere with most of the fleet then been based at Stockton. They had plenty of chances over the years to extend the depot but now aldi and a pub have been built next to it instead.
Again even though the coaches were 12 metres, they were mid-engined. Plus Hartlepool isn't exactly a money spinner for Stagecoach no matter how hard they have tried.
