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31 Jan 2023, 9:46 am #21
(31 Jan 2023, 6:04 am)Michael Sure GNE etc will investigate, but they can't just take every Versa off the road, until an investigation is done, plus GNE don't have the buses to replace them.
They will probably re instate one of the ex Quay City versa's as a replacement.
ian foster
31 Jan 2023, 9:46 am #21

(31 Jan 2023, 6:04 am)Michael Sure GNE etc will investigate, but they can't just take every Versa off the road, until an investigation is done, plus GNE don't have the buses to replace them.
They will probably re instate one of the ex Quay City versa's as a replacement.

31 Jan 2023, 3:21 pm #22
(31 Jan 2023, 5:53 am)Michael Why? Because a few have set themselves on fire?

Do you think the same for car companies?

Should Ford pull every Ford Model off the road, because of a few car fires?, same as Nissan, Honda etc
If there's any make of cars that should be pulled of the cars, it's Tesla's. But that's a completely different kettle of fish.

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31 Jan 2023, 3:21 pm #22

(31 Jan 2023, 5:53 am)Michael Why? Because a few have set themselves on fire?

Do you think the same for car companies?

Should Ford pull every Ford Model off the road, because of a few car fires?, same as Nissan, Honda etc
If there's any make of cars that should be pulled of the cars, it's Tesla's. But that's a completely different kettle of fish.


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31 Jan 2023, 8:09 pm #23
Has anyone heard anything more about the green arrow that caught fire a bit ago?
itsadam
31 Jan 2023, 8:09 pm #23

Has anyone heard anything more about the green arrow that caught fire a bit ago?

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31 Jan 2023, 8:46 pm #24
(31 Jan 2023, 9:46 am)ian foster They will probably re instate one of the ex Quay City versa's as a replacement.


5334 was reinstated (having been mothballed for a day!)


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Dan
31 Jan 2023, 8:46 pm #24

(31 Jan 2023, 9:46 am)ian foster They will probably re instate one of the ex Quay City versa's as a replacement.


5334 was reinstated (having been mothballed for a day!)


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31 Jan 2023, 8:55 pm #25
(31 Jan 2023, 8:46 pm)Dan 5334 was reinstated (having been mothballed for a day!)


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So are the citaros going? If so when?
Unber43
31 Jan 2023, 8:55 pm #25

(31 Jan 2023, 8:46 pm)Dan 5334 was reinstated (having been mothballed for a day!)


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So are the citaros going? If so when?

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31 Jan 2023, 9:00 pm #26
(31 Jan 2023, 8:55 pm)Unber43 So are the citaros going? If so when?


5327 has been withdrawn. It should have been withdrawn back in November last year when GNE lost the contract to operate scholars service 889 to Park View.

5334-36 are due to be mothballed as soon as possible (likely to be when 5386-88 are repainted and return to service at Riverside). Note they aren’t being withdrawn as they may be required to be reinstated if GNE wins additional contracts or reinstates the frequency of some of the temporarily reduced services.

5388 has now been repainted into fleet livery and is undergoing preparation for service at Riverside.


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31 Jan 2023, 9:00 pm #26

(31 Jan 2023, 8:55 pm)Unber43 So are the citaros going? If so when?


5327 has been withdrawn. It should have been withdrawn back in November last year when GNE lost the contract to operate scholars service 889 to Park View.

5334-36 are due to be mothballed as soon as possible (likely to be when 5386-88 are repainted and return to service at Riverside). Note they aren’t being withdrawn as they may be required to be reinstated if GNE wins additional contracts or reinstates the frequency of some of the temporarily reduced services.

5388 has now been repainted into fleet livery and is undergoing preparation for service at Riverside.


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31 Jan 2023, 9:06 pm #27
(31 Jan 2023, 9:00 pm)Dan 5327 has been withdrawn. It should have been withdrawn back in November last year when GNE lost the contract to operate scholars service 889 to Park View.

5334-36 are due to be mothballed as soon as possible (likely to be when 5386-88 are repainted and return to service at Riverside). Note they aren’t being withdrawn as they may be required to be reinstated if GNE wins additional contracts or reinstates the frequency of some of the temporarily reduced services.

5388 has now been repainted into fleet livery and is undergoing preparation for service at Riverside.


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Deptford only has the 60/X20 as temporarily reduced. Which are more than likely staying reduced. 

So 5386-88 going for the 61? but its a PVR 4
Unber43
31 Jan 2023, 9:06 pm #27

(31 Jan 2023, 9:00 pm)Dan 5327 has been withdrawn. It should have been withdrawn back in November last year when GNE lost the contract to operate scholars service 889 to Park View.

5334-36 are due to be mothballed as soon as possible (likely to be when 5386-88 are repainted and return to service at Riverside). Note they aren’t being withdrawn as they may be required to be reinstated if GNE wins additional contracts or reinstates the frequency of some of the temporarily reduced services.

5388 has now been repainted into fleet livery and is undergoing preparation for service at Riverside.


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Deptford only has the 60/X20 as temporarily reduced. Which are more than likely staying reduced. 

So 5386-88 going for the 61? but its a PVR 4

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31 Jan 2023, 9:07 pm #28
(31 Jan 2023, 9:06 pm)Unber43 Deptford only has the 60/X20 as temporarily reduced. Which are more than likely staying reduced. 

So 5386-88 going for the 61? but its a PVR 4


Riverside don’t operate the 61!


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31 Jan 2023, 9:07 pm #28

(31 Jan 2023, 9:06 pm)Unber43 Deptford only has the 60/X20 as temporarily reduced. Which are more than likely staying reduced. 

So 5386-88 going for the 61? but its a PVR 4


Riverside don’t operate the 61!


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31 Jan 2023, 9:12 pm #29
(31 Jan 2023, 9:07 pm)Dan Riverside don’t operate the 61!


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Yes, so why would the Ex-QuayCity's getting repainted affect the citaros on the 61
Unber43
31 Jan 2023, 9:12 pm #29

(31 Jan 2023, 9:07 pm)Dan Riverside don’t operate the 61!


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Yes, so why would the Ex-QuayCity's getting repainted affect the citaros on the 61

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31 Jan 2023, 9:15 pm #30
(31 Jan 2023, 9:12 pm)Unber43 Yes, so why would the Ex-QuayCity's getting repainted affect the citaros on the 61

Because they could displace buses at Riverside which would transfer to Deptford to replace the Citaros?
S813 FVK
31 Jan 2023, 9:15 pm #30

(31 Jan 2023, 9:12 pm)Unber43 Yes, so why would the Ex-QuayCity's getting repainted affect the citaros on the 61

Because they could displace buses at Riverside which would transfer to Deptford to replace the Citaros?

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31 Jan 2023, 9:19 pm #31
(31 Jan 2023, 9:15 pm)S813 FVK Because they could displace buses at Riverside which would transfer to Deptford to replace the Citaros?
Oh that makes sense. 

Probs going to get those awful 10 plate versas...great another downgrade
Unber43
31 Jan 2023, 9:19 pm #31

(31 Jan 2023, 9:15 pm)S813 FVK Because they could displace buses at Riverside which would transfer to Deptford to replace the Citaros?
Oh that makes sense. 

Probs going to get those awful 10 plate versas...great another downgrade

31 Jan 2023, 10:51 pm #32
Here's a shock reverlation, maybe there was nothing wrong with the bus and the fire was caused by third party equipment such as a ticket machine or maybe someone mobile phone / laptop battery going faulty and causing a fire, and when those kind of batteries do go, they do go in spectacular fashion.

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Rapidsnap
31 Jan 2023, 10:51 pm #32

Here's a shock reverlation, maybe there was nothing wrong with the bus and the fire was caused by third party equipment such as a ticket machine or maybe someone mobile phone / laptop battery going faulty and causing a fire, and when those kind of batteries do go, they do go in spectacular fashion.


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01 Feb 2023, 3:22 am #33
(31 Jan 2023, 10:51 pm)Rapidsnap Here's a shock reverlation, maybe there was nothing wrong with the bus and the fire was caused by third party equipment such as a ticket machine or maybe someone mobile phone / laptop battery going faulty and causing a fire, and when those kind of batteries do go, they do go in spectacular fashion.

I had a lithium battery catch fire in my hand a few years ago when disassembling a phone, can confirm, it was spectacular and rather warm.
Luckily I had my explosion containment pie dish at the ready and only slightly burnt my finger

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streetdeckfan
01 Feb 2023, 3:22 am #33

(31 Jan 2023, 10:51 pm)Rapidsnap Here's a shock reverlation, maybe there was nothing wrong with the bus and the fire was caused by third party equipment such as a ticket machine or maybe someone mobile phone / laptop battery going faulty and causing a fire, and when those kind of batteries do go, they do go in spectacular fashion.

I had a lithium battery catch fire in my hand a few years ago when disassembling a phone, can confirm, it was spectacular and rather warm.
Luckily I had my explosion containment pie dish at the ready and only slightly burnt my finger

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01 Feb 2023, 6:21 am #34
(31 Jan 2023, 10:51 pm)Rapidsnap Here's a shock reverlation, maybe there was nothing wrong with the bus and the fire was caused by third party equipment such as a ticket machine or maybe someone mobile phone / laptop battery going faulty and causing a fire, and when those kind of batteries do go, they do go in spectacular fashion.

I agree with this one and that is what I thought when it happend.
NEbushopper
01 Feb 2023, 6:21 am #34

(31 Jan 2023, 10:51 pm)Rapidsnap Here's a shock reverlation, maybe there was nothing wrong with the bus and the fire was caused by third party equipment such as a ticket machine or maybe someone mobile phone / laptop battery going faulty and causing a fire, and when those kind of batteries do go, they do go in spectacular fashion.

I agree with this one and that is what I thought when it happend.

01 Feb 2023, 6:39 am #35
(01 Feb 2023, 6:21 am)NEbushopper I agree with this one and that is what I thought when it happend.
Weren't the Citaro fires caused by third party equipment rather than a Mercedes part?
Or am I misremembering?

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streetdeckfan
01 Feb 2023, 6:39 am #35

(01 Feb 2023, 6:21 am)NEbushopper I agree with this one and that is what I thought when it happend.
Weren't the Citaro fires caused by third party equipment rather than a Mercedes part?
Or am I misremembering?

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01 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm #36
IIRC the Citaro fires, particularly the bendy bus versions in London were something to do with the fuel hose splitting and spraying diesel all over.

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Rapidsnap
01 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm #36

IIRC the Citaro fires, particularly the bendy bus versions in London were something to do with the fuel hose splitting and spraying diesel all over.


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01 Feb 2023, 6:36 pm #37
Thing is (and this may sound daft) but any vehicle can have a fire from the minute it rolls out the factory, but the older a vehicle gets, then there is a greater CHANCE of it catching fire, it could be 1 factor, 3 factors, or 10 factors and/or more as to why 8330 went up in smoke, look at 8303, that was 8 year old when that caught fire, 8330 would of been 12 this year

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V514DFT
01 Feb 2023, 6:36 pm #37

Thing is (and this may sound daft) but any vehicle can have a fire from the minute it rolls out the factory, but the older a vehicle gets, then there is a greater CHANCE of it catching fire, it could be 1 factor, 3 factors, or 10 factors and/or more as to why 8330 went up in smoke, look at 8303, that was 8 year old when that caught fire, 8330 would of been 12 this year


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03 Feb 2023, 4:17 pm #38
(01 Feb 2023, 6:39 am)streetdeckfan Weren't the Citaro fires caused by third party equipment rather than a Mercedes part?
Or am I misremembering?

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Allegedly one was down to wiring of the e-fans fitted during their refurbishments.

others may have been down to wonderful design features such as fuel return pipes and injectors directly above the exhaust manifold.

I’m by no means an expert, but it looks like that one started near the front, so another cause could have been a binding brake.
xpm
03 Feb 2023, 4:17 pm #38

(01 Feb 2023, 6:39 am)streetdeckfan Weren't the Citaro fires caused by third party equipment rather than a Mercedes part?
Or am I misremembering?

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Allegedly one was down to wiring of the e-fans fitted during their refurbishments.

others may have been down to wonderful design features such as fuel return pipes and injectors directly above the exhaust manifold.

I’m by no means an expert, but it looks like that one started near the front, so another cause could have been a binding brake.

05 Feb 2023, 1:48 am #39
(01 Feb 2023, 6:36 pm)V514DFT Thing is (and this may sound daft) but any vehicle can have a fire from the minute it rolls out the factory, but the older a vehicle gets, then there is a greater CHANCE of it catching fire, it could be 1 factor, 3 factors, or 10 factors and/or more as to why 8330 went up in smoke, look at 8303, that was 8 year old when that caught fire, 8330 would of been 12 this year

Since you mention it, Scania L94UB - Wright Solar number 4939 (NK51OLA) was one of those few vehicles to be destroyed by fire before entering service, hence the gap in the numbers and that 4954 or 4955 was delivered as it's replacement, it was also why GNE had a Scania Wright Solar demo YN51MGU on loan (I nicknamed it Pingu as it had cartoon Penguins on it) https://www.flickr.com/photos/thetranspo...2056141783

However it wasn't by mechanical issue that caused the fire, I believe the vehicle was displayed at one of them Bus and Coach Shows where manufactuers show off their latest vehicles, 4939 was there on display as an example of the Scania L94UB / Wright Solar on the Scania stand. Anyway it was at Hogarth Coachworks in Birtley (on behalf of Scania) when a serial arsonist struck the premises destroying several vehicles (mainly trucks) of which 4939 was amongst them. Article about fire here - https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/7...ire-arson/

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Rapidsnap
05 Feb 2023, 1:48 am #39

(01 Feb 2023, 6:36 pm)V514DFT Thing is (and this may sound daft) but any vehicle can have a fire from the minute it rolls out the factory, but the older a vehicle gets, then there is a greater CHANCE of it catching fire, it could be 1 factor, 3 factors, or 10 factors and/or more as to why 8330 went up in smoke, look at 8303, that was 8 year old when that caught fire, 8330 would of been 12 this year

Since you mention it, Scania L94UB - Wright Solar number 4939 (NK51OLA) was one of those few vehicles to be destroyed by fire before entering service, hence the gap in the numbers and that 4954 or 4955 was delivered as it's replacement, it was also why GNE had a Scania Wright Solar demo YN51MGU on loan (I nicknamed it Pingu as it had cartoon Penguins on it) https://www.flickr.com/photos/thetranspo...2056141783

However it wasn't by mechanical issue that caused the fire, I believe the vehicle was displayed at one of them Bus and Coach Shows where manufactuers show off their latest vehicles, 4939 was there on display as an example of the Scania L94UB / Wright Solar on the Scania stand. Anyway it was at Hogarth Coachworks in Birtley (on behalf of Scania) when a serial arsonist struck the premises destroying several vehicles (mainly trucks) of which 4939 was amongst them. Article about fire here - https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/7...ire-arson/


Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

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