May Changes
May Changes
(23 Apr 2023, 9:20 pm)Busu284 The 19 by gne was ran to 20 to 40 to an hour late half the time. The 19 by gct has been ran fine bar once where it ran an hour late. I'm in no way blaming I just don't see how gct can keep a time running properly to gne running it late 90% of the time11 was another that was always late, even going back to the days of it being the 17
(23 Apr 2023, 9:20 pm)Busu284 The 19 by gne was ran to 20 to 40 to an hour late half the time. The 19 by gct has been ran fine bar once where it ran an hour late. I'm in no way blaming I just don't see how gct can keep a time running properly to gne running it late 90% of the time11 was another that was always late, even going back to the days of it being the 17
(23 Apr 2023, 5:59 pm)citaro5284 Has it not got anything to do with the 4 way traffic lights on Saltmeadows Road and the roadworks?
(23 Apr 2023, 10:55 pm)Storx Aye be interesting mind if they did. Guess we'd only know though if they lost it and they take it on during the grace period. It compliments the 22 in the Howdon area aswell and makes the 1 pretty much redundant for most people who live round there, unless they hate Stagecoach for whatever reason.In theory, the 1 could be broken up into different sections:
(23 Apr 2023, 10:55 pm)Storx Aye be interesting mind if they did. Guess we'd only know though if they lost it and they take it on during the grace period. It compliments the 22 in the Howdon area aswell and makes the 1 pretty much redundant for most people who live round there, unless they hate Stagecoach for whatever reason.In theory, the 1 could be broken up into different sections:
(24 Apr 2023, 8:52 pm)L469 YVK In theory, the 1 could be broken up into different sections:Non of that makes any sense & would kill each route especially the 306/57/57A part. That would make people on Linskill Terrace lose a bus & Tynemouth Road for some reason gain a bus every 10 minutes of which it doesn't need.
- 22A - covers the section of the 1 between Byker and Wallsend (via Appletree Gardens)
- 22/22A split - 22 still to Cobalt & Silverlink every 20 minutes. 22A to North Shields (and maybe Tynemouth) every 20 minutes
- 57 & 57A extended to North Shields via 306 route but serves Tynemouth Road rather than Linskill Terrace
- 306 does the current 1 route between Tynemouth & Whitley Bay >>> much better during the evenings and gets rid of the wasted layover in Tynemouth
- 97 re-instated as was
Also.......if GNE won a bid (maybe joint with Arriva) to electrify the 307 & 309, would GNE justify a new depot in North Tyneside unless a brand new 'depot in depot' was built and maybe shared with Arriva, noting that Arriva if they won the 306 & 308 as part of that bid....would also have the 43/44/45 & 47 to account for? Maybe with GNE also having the Q3, somewhere around Sandy Lane (as previously rumoured for Arriva) could be the perfect location for both operators.
Arriva maybe won't be as dominant in Blyth in future years, so not too far from Cramlington and even Killingworth for changeovers & reliefs.
GNE would change the Q3 in Great Park and for simplicity, could do remote reliefs for both the 307 & 309 in High Farm (via Sandy Lane > NT Council Offices > Forest Hall > Whitley Road > Station Road).
(24 Apr 2023, 8:52 pm)L469 YVK In theory, the 1 could be broken up into different sections:Non of that makes any sense & would kill each route especially the 306/57/57A part. That would make people on Linskill Terrace lose a bus & Tynemouth Road for some reason gain a bus every 10 minutes of which it doesn't need.
- 22A - covers the section of the 1 between Byker and Wallsend (via Appletree Gardens)
- 22/22A split - 22 still to Cobalt & Silverlink every 20 minutes. 22A to North Shields (and maybe Tynemouth) every 20 minutes
- 57 & 57A extended to North Shields via 306 route but serves Tynemouth Road rather than Linskill Terrace
- 306 does the current 1 route between Tynemouth & Whitley Bay >>> much better during the evenings and gets rid of the wasted layover in Tynemouth
- 97 re-instated as was
Also.......if GNE won a bid (maybe joint with Arriva) to electrify the 307 & 309, would GNE justify a new depot in North Tyneside unless a brand new 'depot in depot' was built and maybe shared with Arriva, noting that Arriva if they won the 306 & 308 as part of that bid....would also have the 43/44/45 & 47 to account for? Maybe with GNE also having the Q3, somewhere around Sandy Lane (as previously rumoured for Arriva) could be the perfect location for both operators.
Arriva maybe won't be as dominant in Blyth in future years, so not too far from Cramlington and even Killingworth for changeovers & reliefs.
GNE would change the Q3 in Great Park and for simplicity, could do remote reliefs for both the 307 & 309 in High Farm (via Sandy Lane > NT Council Offices > Forest Hall > Whitley Road > Station Road).
(24 Apr 2023, 9:40 pm)Busu284 Non of that makes any sense & would kill each route especially the 306/57/57A part. That would make people on Linskill Terrace lose a bus & Tynemouth Road for some reason gain a bus every 10 minutes of which it doesn't need.
Idk why people have this idea withdrawn or changing the 1 is gonna be good foe some reason. The 1 is a profitable service which gets many people on board. The 1 is a asset to North Tyneside. Think about it. U withdrawn the 1. Metro passengers are screwed. Most the people who use the 1 to get to Newcastle are screwed & so are many people getting home. The 1 is a good service of which many people use. The withdrawal of the 97 has in some way boosted passengers numbers on the 1 from what I've been seeing. Journeys in the morning after 7am have been busy & decekrs have had really good loading. Non of what u say about splitting the 1 up would be a good idea
57/57A to North Shields via thr 306 route would just kill it
Making the 306 go to Whitley Bay on an evening instead of having the long layover in Tynemouth is daft as all hell. I've been in the 306 lates many many of times. And the bus is empty by the time the service passes North Shields so why send an empty service to Whitley Bay
(24 Apr 2023, 9:40 pm)Busu284 Non of that makes any sense & would kill each route especially the 306/57/57A part. That would make people on Linskill Terrace lose a bus & Tynemouth Road for some reason gain a bus every 10 minutes of which it doesn't need.
Idk why people have this idea withdrawn or changing the 1 is gonna be good foe some reason. The 1 is a profitable service which gets many people on board. The 1 is a asset to North Tyneside. Think about it. U withdrawn the 1. Metro passengers are screwed. Most the people who use the 1 to get to Newcastle are screwed & so are many people getting home. The 1 is a good service of which many people use. The withdrawal of the 97 has in some way boosted passengers numbers on the 1 from what I've been seeing. Journeys in the morning after 7am have been busy & decekrs have had really good loading. Non of what u say about splitting the 1 up would be a good idea
57/57A to North Shields via thr 306 route would just kill it
Making the 306 go to Whitley Bay on an evening instead of having the long layover in Tynemouth is daft as all hell. I've been in the 306 lates many many of times. And the bus is empty by the time the service passes North Shields so why send an empty service to Whitley Bay
