Boxing Day Services
Boxing Day Services
(26 Dec 2023, 10:57 am)Ambassador My 21 ran full from low fell.
Always a positive, but the highlight was spotting Dan at st Mary’s place
(26 Dec 2023, 10:27 am)RobinHood They would have done, if NCC or Nexus had bothered to send the details to Arriva to include...
(26 Dec 2023, 10:27 am)RobinHood They would have done, if NCC or Nexus had bothered to send the details to Arriva to include...
(26 Dec 2023, 10:58 am)L469 YVK The W*** RBB Tridents were awful on the 308 after being hammered on the 602 and to the extent that Jesmond never sent them out on the 306 on Sundays with B10BLE's or Palatines / 7445-46 used instead.
DB300's I think are okay.......but not as rapid as the E400MMC, not forgetting the DB300 is powered by a 205BHP Cummins unit whereas the E400/E400MMC is powered by a 240/250BHP Cummins unit. Got up to speed fairly quick this morning too!
The original E400 allocated (7501-06) were a bag of ***** as Arriva Blyth didn't look after their buses then contrary to Ashington's examples on the X31/X32/X33 (7507-13) which had a bit more TLC. In fact, anything that never touched the 308 or X93 out of that batch were sound.
(26 Dec 2023, 10:58 am)L469 YVK The W*** RBB Tridents were awful on the 308 after being hammered on the 602 and to the extent that Jesmond never sent them out on the 306 on Sundays with B10BLE's or Palatines / 7445-46 used instead.
DB300's I think are okay.......but not as rapid as the E400MMC, not forgetting the DB300 is powered by a 205BHP Cummins unit whereas the E400/E400MMC is powered by a 240/250BHP Cummins unit. Got up to speed fairly quick this morning too!
The original E400 allocated (7501-06) were a bag of ***** as Arriva Blyth didn't look after their buses then contrary to Ashington's examples on the X31/X32/X33 (7507-13) which had a bit more TLC. In fact, anything that never touched the 308 or X93 out of that batch were sound.
(26 Dec 2023, 5:10 pm)Storx In fairness that's just a choice of the engine they chose I guess, I'd imagine they could've had the higher BHP Cummins engine if someone wanted but no-one touched VDL vehicles because Arriva were the dealer.
The VDL DB300's even now give a better passenger experience than the brand new MMC's which are riddled with rattles already and they've been in service just over a year.
ADL vehicles, generally, are a pile of crap imo. Sadly Wright have followed them in recent years as the Streetdeck (awful) is pretty much the replacement for the DB300. I'm still surprised there hasn't been a 2 axle Volvo Decker using the 8 litre engine found in some single deckers and the 3 axle decker they currently produce.
(26 Dec 2023, 5:10 pm)Storx In fairness that's just a choice of the engine they chose I guess, I'd imagine they could've had the higher BHP Cummins engine if someone wanted but no-one touched VDL vehicles because Arriva were the dealer.
The VDL DB300's even now give a better passenger experience than the brand new MMC's which are riddled with rattles already and they've been in service just over a year.
ADL vehicles, generally, are a pile of crap imo. Sadly Wright have followed them in recent years as the Streetdeck (awful) is pretty much the replacement for the DB300. I'm still surprised there hasn't been a 2 axle Volvo Decker using the 8 litre engine found in some single deckers and the 3 axle decker they currently produce.
(26 Dec 2023, 2:11 pm)Dan Of course, a proactive operator would have asked Nexus or Northumberland CC - even if Arriva aren’t running buses today, it is in their interests to publish the information.
Especially given they went to the effort of producing printed publicity last year.
What changed?
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(26 Dec 2023, 2:11 pm)Dan Of course, a proactive operator would have asked Nexus or Northumberland CC - even if Arriva aren’t running buses today, it is in their interests to publish the information.
Especially given they went to the effort of producing printed publicity last year.
What changed?
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(26 Dec 2023, 5:10 pm)Storx In fairness that's just a choice of the engine they chose I guess, I'd imagine they could've had the higher BHP Cummins engine if someone wanted but no-one touched VDL vehicles because Arriva were the dealer.See, I think the days of true heavyweight deckers are over especially since covid with only Stagecoach ordering Scania N250 E400MMCs.......although the standard ADL/Cummins E400MMC can handle most work if well looked after. The Stagecoach examples used on the 308 didn't seem to have any major rattles and both power deliveries felt very smooth compared to the usual Arriva DB300's.
The VDL DB300's even now give a better passenger experience than the brand new MMC's which are riddled with rattles already and they've been in service just over a year.
ADL vehicles, generally, are a pile of crap imo. Sadly Wright have followed them in recent years as the Streetdeck (awful) is pretty much the replacement for the DB300. I'm still surprised there hasn't been a 2 axle Volvo Decker using the 8 litre engine found in some single deckers and the 3 axle decker they currently produce.
(26 Dec 2023, 5:10 pm)Storx In fairness that's just a choice of the engine they chose I guess, I'd imagine they could've had the higher BHP Cummins engine if someone wanted but no-one touched VDL vehicles because Arriva were the dealer.See, I think the days of true heavyweight deckers are over especially since covid with only Stagecoach ordering Scania N250 E400MMCs.......although the standard ADL/Cummins E400MMC can handle most work if well looked after. The Stagecoach examples used on the 308 didn't seem to have any major rattles and both power deliveries felt very smooth compared to the usual Arriva DB300's.
The VDL DB300's even now give a better passenger experience than the brand new MMC's which are riddled with rattles already and they've been in service just over a year.
ADL vehicles, generally, are a pile of crap imo. Sadly Wright have followed them in recent years as the Streetdeck (awful) is pretty much the replacement for the DB300. I'm still surprised there hasn't been a 2 axle Volvo Decker using the 8 litre engine found in some single deckers and the 3 axle decker they currently produce.
(26 Dec 2023, 2:09 pm)Dan I’m just disappointed you didn’t say hello and allow me to buy you a pint! ‘Tis the season…
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(26 Dec 2023, 2:09 pm)Dan I’m just disappointed you didn’t say hello and allow me to buy you a pint! ‘Tis the season…
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(26 Dec 2023, 10:03 pm)RobinHood What changed this year was the lack of any information provided.
A 'proactive' operator can only include what is sent, by the deadlines it is needed.
(26 Dec 2023, 10:03 pm)RobinHood What changed this year was the lack of any information provided.
A 'proactive' operator can only include what is sent, by the deadlines it is needed.
(26 Dec 2023, 11:48 pm)Ambassador I was in a rather large noisy group, I will stop by next time!I paid in much more than I normally would for a day shift, if you want comparison, however it would be about right for a standard early shift.
Looks like the Angels recovered post match. The 3.50 I got home was pretty empty and had 15 wait time at Eldon.
With most major retailers again closed on Boxing Day, it would be interesting to see how well used the services were without the match
(26 Dec 2023, 11:48 pm)Ambassador I was in a rather large noisy group, I will stop by next time!I paid in much more than I normally would for a day shift, if you want comparison, however it would be about right for a standard early shift.
Looks like the Angels recovered post match. The 3.50 I got home was pretty empty and had 15 wait time at Eldon.
With most major retailers again closed on Boxing Day, it would be interesting to see how well used the services were without the match
(27 Dec 2023, 9:41 am)F114TML I paid in much more than I normally would for a day shift, if you want comparison, however it would be about right for a standard early shift.
(27 Dec 2023, 9:41 am)F114TML I paid in much more than I normally would for a day shift, if you want comparison, however it would be about right for a standard early shift.
(27 Dec 2023, 10:17 am)Ambassador Ah that's interesting! Looking at the weather today the likes of next, johnlewis and m&s might not see the footfall they were hoping for!
Lack of trains on Boxing Day will help numbers too no doubt.
(27 Dec 2023, 10:17 am)Ambassador Ah that's interesting! Looking at the weather today the likes of next, johnlewis and m&s might not see the footfall they were hoping for!
Lack of trains on Boxing Day will help numbers too no doubt.
