28th January 2024 changes
28th January 2024 changes
(09 Jan 2024, 9:55 am)Aaron21 Knew the X20 would be BSIP. Called it. Gne just using it every second of the day.20A will continue to run evenings and Sundays hourly.
These changes are pathetic to anyone.
X45/47/6 all to serve Metrocentre Coach Park in the morning. (Nothing mentioned)
93/94 serving Glasshouse (Sage) again. Didn't work the first time
27 every 30 on an evening. (Forgot the metro stops running after 8pm)
X20 back yet not mentioned what's happened to the 20A
65 was meant to have time changes (not anywhere)
74 mentioned its stopping on Claremont Road in Newcastle both ways (already does that)
These changes to me look to have been done in a rush and yet 4 change again are using BSIP. Yet people will come on here and say "well arriva are wasting it on a new service and stagecoach are doing terrible with it"
(09 Jan 2024, 9:55 am)Aaron21 Knew the X20 would be BSIP. Called it. Gne just using it every second of the day.20A will continue to run evenings and Sundays hourly.
These changes are pathetic to anyone.
X45/47/6 all to serve Metrocentre Coach Park in the morning. (Nothing mentioned)
93/94 serving Glasshouse (Sage) again. Didn't work the first time
27 every 30 on an evening. (Forgot the metro stops running after 8pm)
X20 back yet not mentioned what's happened to the 20A
65 was meant to have time changes (not anywhere)
74 mentioned its stopping on Claremont Road in Newcastle both ways (already does that)
These changes to me look to have been done in a rush and yet 4 change again are using BSIP. Yet people will come on here and say "well arriva are wasting it on a new service and stagecoach are doing terrible with it"
(09 Jan 2024, 9:55 am)Aaron21 Knew the X20 would be BSIP. Called it. Gne just using it every second of the day.
These changes are pathetic to anyone.
X45/47/6 all to serve Metrocentre Coach Park in the morning. (Nothing mentioned)
93/94 serving Glasshouse (Sage) again. Didn't work the first time
27 every 30 on an evening. (Forgot the metro stops running after 8pm)
X20 back yet not mentioned what's happened to the 20A
65 was meant to have time changes (not anywhere)
74 mentioned its stopping on Claremont Road in Newcastle both ways (already does that)
These changes to me look to have been done in a rush and yet 4 change again are using BSIP. Yet people will come on here and say "well arriva are wasting it on a new service and stagecoach are doing terrible with it"
(09 Jan 2024, 9:55 am)Aaron21 Knew the X20 would be BSIP. Called it. Gne just using it every second of the day.
These changes are pathetic to anyone.
X45/47/6 all to serve Metrocentre Coach Park in the morning. (Nothing mentioned)
93/94 serving Glasshouse (Sage) again. Didn't work the first time
27 every 30 on an evening. (Forgot the metro stops running after 8pm)
X20 back yet not mentioned what's happened to the 20A
65 was meant to have time changes (not anywhere)
74 mentioned its stopping on Claremont Road in Newcastle both ways (already does that)
These changes to me look to have been done in a rush and yet 4 change again are using BSIP. Yet people will come on here and say "well arriva are wasting it on a new service and stagecoach are doing terrible with it"
(08 Jan 2024, 9:47 pm)Dan Presumably you are looking at the departure times (ie those quoted on the website), not arrival (as they probably aren’t on the website).
A 10+ minute saving in journey time is quite attractive, in my opinion. It could be sped up further but there is a balance to be struck with actually stopping to allow people to use the service for something that isn’t just end to end traffic.
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(08 Jan 2024, 9:47 pm)Dan Presumably you are looking at the departure times (ie those quoted on the website), not arrival (as they probably aren’t on the website).
A 10+ minute saving in journey time is quite attractive, in my opinion. It could be sped up further but there is a balance to be struck with actually stopping to allow people to use the service for something that isn’t just end to end traffic.
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(09 Jan 2024, 7:10 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Have to agree here, considering there's only about a 20 min difference between the "fast" train and the stopping train NCL-KGX, cutting 10 mins from a 50ish mins journey is pretty decent IMO.
(09 Jan 2024, 7:10 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Have to agree here, considering there's only about a 20 min difference between the "fast" train and the stopping train NCL-KGX, cutting 10 mins from a 50ish mins journey is pretty decent IMO.
Since it's been funded by the council imo something like the below would be better, purple areas being stopping and black being non stop:
You could have the whole route every 30 minutes, with extra shorts running between the two P&R sites and then scrap the PR1 and save money there rather than having buses duplicating each other (this is how it works in York). Plus Doxford Park should be served all day imo, but it's just as quick to go via Silksworth and would open new links South.
The 20/20A would stay as it is now.
(09 Jan 2024, 9:22 pm)Drifter60 The 65 changes have cut the layover time at Seaham from 14 minutes to 5 minutes. Haven’t checked the layover at Durham as it interworks with the 20.Its got 7 mins at Durham (baring in mind the 65 now takes 1hour 1 min, it used to take 56 mins), then 7 mins in Sunderland then to goes onto a long 20 which has 3 mins at Hosptial but then about 6 at Durham Bus Station
(09 Jan 2024, 9:22 pm)Drifter60 The 65 changes have cut the layover time at Seaham from 14 minutes to 5 minutes. Haven’t checked the layover at Durham as it interworks with the 20.Its got 7 mins at Durham (baring in mind the 65 now takes 1hour 1 min, it used to take 56 mins), then 7 mins in Sunderland then to goes onto a long 20 which has 3 mins at Hosptial but then about 6 at Durham Bus Station
(09 Jan 2024, 10:10 pm)Aaron21 So the 93/94 mention "additionally serving The Glasshouse between Gateshead and Saltmeadows Road"Services 93/94
Well did they forget to tell people. Its only evenings
Nice to see they finally added the
(09 Jan 2024, 10:10 pm)Aaron21 So the 93/94 mention "additionally serving The Glasshouse between Gateshead and Saltmeadows Road"Services 93/94
Well did they forget to tell people. Its only evenings
Nice to see they finally added the
(09 Jan 2024, 11:10 pm)James101 Spacing between departures from Durham to Sunderland isn’t great. X20 just 3 minute after a 20 and sharing the same stand. It won’t be helpful for X20 loadings as this effectively narrows the time saving down to 5 minutes to Houghton.
(09 Jan 2024, 11:10 pm)James101 Spacing between departures from Durham to Sunderland isn’t great. X20 just 3 minute after a 20 and sharing the same stand. It won’t be helpful for X20 loadings as this effectively narrows the time saving down to 5 minutes to Houghton.
(09 Jan 2024, 9:55 am)Aaron21 Knew the X20 would be BSIP. Called it. Gne just using it every second of the day.
(09 Jan 2024, 9:55 am)Aaron21 Knew the X20 would be BSIP. Called it. Gne just using it every second of the day.
(09 Jan 2024, 8:38 pm)Storx Since it's been funded by the council imo something like the below would be better, purple areas being stopping and black being non stop:
You could have the whole route every 30 minutes, with extra shorts running between the two P&R sites and then scrap the PR1 and save money there rather than having buses duplicating each other (this is how it works in York). Plus Doxford Park should be served all day imo, but it's just as quick to go via Silksworth and would open new links South.
The 20/20A would stay as it is now.
(09 Jan 2024, 8:38 pm)Storx Since it's been funded by the council imo something like the below would be better, purple areas being stopping and black being non stop:
You could have the whole route every 30 minutes, with extra shorts running between the two P&R sites and then scrap the PR1 and save money there rather than having buses duplicating each other (this is how it works in York). Plus Doxford Park should be served all day imo, but it's just as quick to go via Silksworth and would open new links South.
The 20/20A would stay as it is now.
(10 Jan 2024, 8:30 am)DeltaMan Think what I may do is start a bus company. Introduce a temporary timetable for staffing reasons and then get the tax payer to pay for me to restore the previous service levels. Job done.
Same goes for Arriva before anybody pipes up.
(10 Jan 2024, 8:30 am)DeltaMan Think what I may do is start a bus company. Introduce a temporary timetable for staffing reasons and then get the tax payer to pay for me to restore the previous service levels. Job done.
Same goes for Arriva before anybody pipes up.
(10 Jan 2024, 10:06 am)F114TML Eek! You might want to dive it through Farringdon - there's a reason Stagecoach only use that route as a diversin or by driver discretion.
(10 Jan 2024, 10:06 am)F114TML Eek! You might want to dive it through Farringdon - there's a reason Stagecoach only use that route as a diversin or by driver discretion.
(10 Jan 2024, 3:59 am)Dan Well done to Go North East for improving their bus services, using funding allocated by local authorities as part of the… Bus Service Improvement Plan!
Such a novel idea.
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(09 Jan 2024, 11:10 pm)James101 Spacing between departures from Durham to Sunderland isn’t great. X20 just 3 minute after a 20 and sharing the same stand. It won’t be helpful for X20 loadings as this effectively narrows the time saving down to 5 minutes to Houghton.
(10 Jan 2024, 3:59 am)Dan Well done to Go North East for improving their bus services, using funding allocated by local authorities as part of the… Bus Service Improvement Plan!
Such a novel idea.
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(09 Jan 2024, 11:10 pm)James101 Spacing between departures from Durham to Sunderland isn’t great. X20 just 3 minute after a 20 and sharing the same stand. It won’t be helpful for X20 loadings as this effectively narrows the time saving down to 5 minutes to Houghton.