24th March 2024 Changes
24th March 2024 Changes
(26 Mar 2024, 3:48 pm)Aaron21 I think a change is needed to the 352/353 mainlyI mean argueably i'd say the 37 is a copy of the 352 since the 352 was the 52
353 seems to be a really busy route while the 352 is a copy of the 37. An easy change could be made
Withdrawn the 352 and up the 353 to every 30 minutes. Even under Arriva the 53 was a busy route. I'm generally shocked they didn't up it to every 30 and Withdrawn the 352 as there's no need for the 352. Its just a worse version of the 37 ("But it serves Haymarket")
So the 37 drops of at more convenient places like Central/Grainger Street & Market/Pilgrim & John Dobson Street
(26 Mar 2024, 3:48 pm)Aaron21 I think a change is needed to the 352/353 mainlyI mean argueably i'd say the 37 is a copy of the 352 since the 352 was the 52
353 seems to be a really busy route while the 352 is a copy of the 37. An easy change could be made
Withdrawn the 352 and up the 353 to every 30 minutes. Even under Arriva the 53 was a busy route. I'm generally shocked they didn't up it to every 30 and Withdrawn the 352 as there's no need for the 352. Its just a worse version of the 37 ("But it serves Haymarket")
So the 37 drops of at more convenient places like Central/Grainger Street & Market/Pilgrim & John Dobson Street
(26 Mar 2024, 3:48 pm)Aaron21 I think a change is needed to the 352/353 mainly
353 seems to be a really busy route while the 352 is a copy of the 37. An easy change could be made
Withdrawn the 352 and up the 353 to every 30 minutes. Even under Arriva the 53 was a busy route. I'm generally shocked they didn't up it to every 30 and Withdrawn the 352 as there's no need for the 352. Its just a worse version of the 37 ("But it serves Haymarket")
So the 37 drops of at more convenient places like Central/Grainger Street & Market/Pilgrim & John Dobson Street
(26 Mar 2024, 3:48 pm)Aaron21 I think a change is needed to the 352/353 mainly
353 seems to be a really busy route while the 352 is a copy of the 37. An easy change could be made
Withdrawn the 352 and up the 353 to every 30 minutes. Even under Arriva the 53 was a busy route. I'm generally shocked they didn't up it to every 30 and Withdrawn the 352 as there's no need for the 352. Its just a worse version of the 37 ("But it serves Haymarket")
So the 37 drops of at more convenient places like Central/Grainger Street & Market/Pilgrim & John Dobson Street
(26 Mar 2024, 3:48 pm)Aaron21 I think a change is needed to the 352/353 mainly
353 seems to be a really busy route while the 352 is a copy of the 37. An easy change could be made
Withdrawn the 352 and up the 353 to every 30 minutes. Even under Arriva the 53 was a busy route. I'm generally shocked they didn't up it to every 30 and Withdrawn the 352 as there's no need for the 352. Its just a worse version of the 37 ("But it serves Haymarket")
So the 37 drops of at more convenient places like Central/Grainger Street & Market/Pilgrim & John Dobson Street
(26 Mar 2024, 3:48 pm)Aaron21 I think a change is needed to the 352/353 mainly
353 seems to be a really busy route while the 352 is a copy of the 37. An easy change could be made
Withdrawn the 352 and up the 353 to every 30 minutes. Even under Arriva the 53 was a busy route. I'm generally shocked they didn't up it to every 30 and Withdrawn the 352 as there's no need for the 352. Its just a worse version of the 37 ("But it serves Haymarket")
So the 37 drops of at more convenient places like Central/Grainger Street & Market/Pilgrim & John Dobson Street
(26 Mar 2024, 6:52 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Worse thing that can ever be done is push buses or suggest buses not serve bus stations or interchanges
Bus companies love the idea (Stagecoach) if they can avoid using a bus station
Haymarket I think charges 70p ish per bus to use it
We need bus stations to serve its purpose and have as many buses as possible connect start taking buses out of bus stations (which are often metro connections too) and we lose the value of a bus station
Look at 317 Stagecoach was successful in pushing it out of Wallsend Interchange (to connect with other buses/metro ) and operate a loop round the shopping centre to improve reliability I think words was used
All secured contracts should have minimum requirements that they must serve as many metro stations or bus stations as possible and supermarkets and industrial estates!
Eg 351 after asda at whitley Road I would make it turn left towards Palmersville metro but take a right and through the industrial estate and back onto whitley Road making a closer connection to Palmersville metro (and when extended to Northumberland park) it provides a quick suspension metro link tools well as servicing an industrial estate As oppose to the walk
(26 Mar 2024, 6:52 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Worse thing that can ever be done is push buses or suggest buses not serve bus stations or interchanges
Bus companies love the idea (Stagecoach) if they can avoid using a bus station
Haymarket I think charges 70p ish per bus to use it
We need bus stations to serve its purpose and have as many buses as possible connect start taking buses out of bus stations (which are often metro connections too) and we lose the value of a bus station
Look at 317 Stagecoach was successful in pushing it out of Wallsend Interchange (to connect with other buses/metro ) and operate a loop round the shopping centre to improve reliability I think words was used
All secured contracts should have minimum requirements that they must serve as many metro stations or bus stations as possible and supermarkets and industrial estates!
Eg 351 after asda at whitley Road I would make it turn left towards Palmersville metro but take a right and through the industrial estate and back onto whitley Road making a closer connection to Palmersville metro (and when extended to Northumberland park) it provides a quick suspension metro link tools well as servicing an industrial estate As oppose to the walk
(26 Mar 2024, 7:12 pm)Storx A bit off topic but I kinda disagree about bus stations.
Bus stations are a complete waste of time if you ask me, unless it's an interchange where you change between a bus and a tube / train like many places in London where you can't control timings so are forced to wait.
Personally, on paper (not saying do it), I'd much rather have a bus which looped around Newcastle so I could get on/off where I actually wanted to be, rather than being dumped off at Haymarket which is miles to the North of most places.
Not to mention personally, I feel more secure at a bus stop than an unstaffed bus station in the evening. Haymarket is an unpleasant place, as an understatement, especially with the undesirables hanging around outside the pub.
Most people who know the timetable, won't be there for longer than 5 minutes max. Now if the bus station was near Central Station then it would be a different kettle of fish.
(26 Mar 2024, 7:12 pm)Storx A bit off topic but I kinda disagree about bus stations.
Bus stations are a complete waste of time if you ask me, unless it's an interchange where you change between a bus and a tube / train like many places in London where you can't control timings so are forced to wait.
Personally, on paper (not saying do it), I'd much rather have a bus which looped around Newcastle so I could get on/off where I actually wanted to be, rather than being dumped off at Haymarket which is miles to the North of most places.
Not to mention personally, I feel more secure at a bus stop than an unstaffed bus station in the evening. Haymarket is an unpleasant place, as an understatement, especially with the undesirables hanging around outside the pub.
Most people who know the timetable, won't be there for longer than 5 minutes max. Now if the bus station was near Central Station then it would be a different kettle of fish.
Rather than throwing money at all these secured Micky Mouse services, some of which only turn up once an hour and are off no use unless dependant.......is better bus / metro integration with local and major routes not the way forward? Seamless ticketing and guaranteed connections. Obviously would never work under the existing private / secured service model.....but bigger picture needs looked at.
Fine example.....308 / 309 in North Tyneside.......passengers ride through to Northumberland Park instead and straight onto Metro....route lengths cut down, more connections and useful links created rather than just another bus along the Coast Road to Newcastle running late as **** some days and sitting in all that traffic. Not saying to scrap them by any means yeah? But just a prime example
(26 Mar 2024, 9:23 pm)Shrek I'm the opposite. I'm much happier waiting for a bus in the Haymarket over a bus stop on a street in town. The fact I can keep dry being one thing, but it's lighter and feels safer to me too.
On the other side of that argument, I hate waiting at Regent Centre. That really doesn't feel a safe place. The stairwell to the car park is disgusting too.
(26 Mar 2024, 9:23 pm)Shrek I'm the opposite. I'm much happier waiting for a bus in the Haymarket over a bus stop on a street in town. The fact I can keep dry being one thing, but it's lighter and feels safer to me too.
On the other side of that argument, I hate waiting at Regent Centre. That really doesn't feel a safe place. The stairwell to the car park is disgusting too.
(27 Mar 2024, 7:15 am)thw1008 More teething problems on the X78 last night. Perhaps a lack of route knowledge.
(27 Mar 2024, 7:15 am)thw1008 More teething problems on the X78 last night. Perhaps a lack of route knowledge.
(26 Mar 2024, 4:27 pm)OrangeArrow49 The 37 is a copy of the 352 as the 352 was registered first. 37 is a duplicate of the 38, but goes to Cramlington. Stagecoach having a shortage of buses should withdraw the 37.
(26 Mar 2024, 4:27 pm)OrangeArrow49 The 37 is a copy of the 352 as the 352 was registered first. 37 is a duplicate of the 38, but goes to Cramlington. Stagecoach having a shortage of buses should withdraw the 37.
(27 Mar 2024, 11:29 am)OrangeArrow49 The X78 seemed to run fine last night, just to a bit of a delay later on. 5491 looks to be the allocated vehicle for the X78.
(27 Mar 2024, 11:29 am)OrangeArrow49 The X78 seemed to run fine last night, just to a bit of a delay later on. 5491 looks to be the allocated vehicle for the X78.
(27 Mar 2024, 11:29 am)OrangeArrow49 5491 looks to be the allocated vehicle for the X78.
(27 Mar 2024, 1:40 pm)mb134 You mean apart from 5500 being on it on Monday?
It'll likely just be whichever single decker is available at the time, which meets the contracted spec.
(27 Mar 2024, 1:40 pm)mb134 You mean apart from 5500 being on it on Monday?
It'll likely just be whichever single decker is available at the time, which meets the contracted spec.
(27 Mar 2024, 4:52 pm)V514DFT Does the 317 have no destination display, i missed a bus today because it just said "Go North East"
(27 Mar 2024, 4:52 pm)V514DFT Does the 317 have no destination display, i missed a bus today because it just said "Go North East"
(27 Mar 2024, 4:52 pm)V514DFT Does the 317 have no destination display, i missed a bus today because it just said "Go North East"
(27 Mar 2024, 4:52 pm)V514DFT Does the 317 have no destination display, i missed a bus today because it just said "Go North East"
(26 Mar 2024, 6:52 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Look at 317 Stagecoach was successful in pushing it out of Wallsend Interchange (to connect with other buses/metro ) and operate a loop round the shopping centre to improve reliability I think words was used
(26 Mar 2024, 6:52 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Look at 317 Stagecoach was successful in pushing it out of Wallsend Interchange (to connect with other buses/metro ) and operate a loop round the shopping centre to improve reliability I think words was used
(27 Mar 2024, 5:27 pm)Thomas12 8322 doesn’t, everything else does. I assume it wasn’t updated in time when it transferred from Washington. Surely there’s something else they could have used in the meantime though?
8322 doesn’t, everything else does. I assume it wasn’t updated in time when it transferred from Washington. Surely there’s something else they could have used in the meantime though?
(27 Mar 2024, 5:27 pm)Thomas12 8322 doesn’t, everything else does. I assume it wasn’t updated in time when it transferred from Washington. Surely there’s something else they could have used in the meantime though?
8322 doesn’t, everything else does. I assume it wasn’t updated in time when it transferred from Washington. Surely there’s something else they could have used in the meantime though?
(27 Mar 2024, 11:09 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Looks like Nexus has enforced additional costs onto contracts that have just been awarded contracts
The price will now be 80p per departure from Haymarket
Looks like Nexus has enforced additional costs onto contracts that have just been awarded contracts
The price will now be 80p per departure from Haymarket
(27 Mar 2024, 11:09 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Looks like Nexus has enforced additional costs onto contracts that have just been awarded contracts
The price will now be 80p per departure from Haymarket
(27 Mar 2024, 11:09 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Looks like Nexus has enforced additional costs onto contracts that have just been awarded contracts
The price will now be 80p per departure from Haymarket
(27 Mar 2024, 11:09 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Looks like Nexus has enforced additional costs onto contracts that have just been awarded contracts
The price will now be 80p per departure from Haymarket
