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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Multi21 - 14 Nov 2018 (02 Nov 2018, 9:37 pm)RobinHood The obvious flaw with your suggestion is the requirement for additional vehicles to do it. I dont think Arriva intend to use any more than the 9 buses on Service 5/5A now. That works if they curtail the 5A to Guisborough as it will save 30 minutes per trip. The problem is if it saves 30 minutes that's a bus in the PVR and if they can save a bus they will. RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - tvd - 14 Nov 2018 (14 Nov 2018, 12:45 am)Multi21 You many be right, but the main priority shouldnt be to save a bus or two - especially on a Sapphire route, these are supposed to be profitable main routes which if anything deserve more investment. Ive emailed Arriva with my thoughts and I know they are still considering what to do with the 5 and 5A, but the 'problem' part of the routes are definitely between Swans Corner and Middlesbrough bus station. At the other end it could be argued that Easington doesnt need as many buses as it currently gets, but they need to turn round somewhere. Theres also variations such as Liverton Mines and Skinningrove to take into account, and a growing demand for a bus to Skelton Asda from East Cleveland. Its tough balancing all these demands with trying to get to and from Middlesbrough in a reasonable amount of time. RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Andreos1 - 14 Nov 2018 (14 Nov 2018, 2:29 pm)tvd You many be right, but the main priority shouldnt be to save a bus or two - especially on a Sapphire route, these are supposed to be profitable main routes which if anything deserve more investment. The retail park is only going to get bigger and more popular. I've a feeling it will expand in to the industrial area behind before long. However, there is limited public transport and as you say, a growing demand from south of Skelton. I wonder if the retail park owners push for or encourage anything? I wonder if the bus saved on the 5/5a could be dropped in to an extended X3A? RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - S830OFT - 14 Nov 2018 (14 Nov 2018, 2:38 pm)Andreos1 The retail park is only going to get bigger and more popular. I think the X5 should be brought back, but keeping the X4 in the process. So between Loftus and Redcar it's Every 30 minutes combined as service X4 would get reduced. Then make the service between Saltburn and Middlesbrough every 20 minutes with all 3 services operating hourly, but combining to form the Every 20 minutes frequency. RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael Euston - 15 Nov 2018 No need to over complicate this. There's nothing wrong with the X4 despite it's summer delays. The X3 and X3A seem to work fine. Keep the 5A running to Skelton as the all-stops route. Run the 5 as an X5 during the day. Run it via the bypass and have it stop only at Brambles Farm, Ormesby Crossroads and Swans Corner [as the X93 does now] and then all stops to Easington. It is now 7-10 minutes earlier and has probably now passed the 5A. That leaves time to go to the retail park and still do the variations to Skinningrove and Liverton Mines once an hour. Brotton and Loftus have a service to Asda. (14 Nov 2018, 3:57 pm)S830OFT I think the X5 should be brought back, but keeping the X4 in the process. So between Loftus and Redcar it's Every 30 minutes combined as service X4 would get reduced. Then make the service between Saltburn and Middlesbrough every 20 minutes with all 3 services operating hourly, but combining to form the Every 20 minutes frequency. RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 15 Nov 2018 (14 Nov 2018, 2:29 pm)tvd You many be right, but the main priority shouldnt be to save a bus or two - especially on a Sapphire route, these are supposed to be profitable main routes which if anything deserve more investment. Well said RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 15 Nov 2018 PB0002032/340 Registered ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD Route: Cramlington to North Shields Service number: 53 (53) Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 06 Jan 2019 RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - V514DFT - 16 Nov 2018 (15 Nov 2018, 7:11 pm)Michael PB0002032/340 Registered Timings? RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 04 Dec 2018 PB0002032/557 Registered (Short notice) ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD Route: Newcastle to Holystone Park Service number: 51A (51A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 06 Jan 2019 PB0002032/458 Registered (Short notice) ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD Route: Newcastle to Whitley Bay Service number: 51 (51) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 06 Jan 2019 RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 21 Dec 2018 PB0002717/474 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: North Hylton to Bracken Hill Service number: ED4 (ED4) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/428 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: EDC Peterlee Campus to EDC Houghall Campus Service number: ED3 (ED3) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/427 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Blackfell to EDC Peterlee Campus Service number: ED2 (ED2) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/429 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Burnopfield to EDC Houghall Campus Service number: ED1 (ED1) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/341 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Bishop Auckland to Toft Hill Service number: 86 (86) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/256 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Durham to Hartlepool Service number: 57 (57, 57A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/30 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Durham to Bishop Auckland Service number: 56 (56A, 56) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/430 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Cockfield to Barnard Castle Service number: 6 (6) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/258 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Durham to Cockfield Service number: 6 (6) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/239 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Durham Service number: X12 (X12) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 24 Dec 2018 From the NEXUS site - changes start on 6.1.19: 43 - Newcastle - Cramlington/Morpeth - Revised Route & Timetable - https://nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/043-nms-060119.pdf 51/51A - Newcastle - Hadrian Lodge - Holystone Park/Whitley Bay - Revised Timetable - https://nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/051-051a-nms-060119.pdf 53 - North Shields - Shiremoor - Killingworth - Cramlington - Revised Route Timetable Unchanged - https://nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/053-nms-060119.pdf RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 03 Jan 2019 PB0002717/316 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Nunthorpe Service number: 29 (29) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/315 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Lingdale/Stokesley Service number: 28 (28, 28A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/321 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Kingsmead/Stockton Service number: 17 (17, 17A, X17) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/296 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Easington Service number: 5 (5, 805, 5A, X5) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/335 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Peterlee Service number: X22 (X22) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/318 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Roseworth to Ingleby Barwick Service number: 15 (15) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/314 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Overfields Service number: 9 (9) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/454 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Netherfields Service number: 8 (8) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/291 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Hurworth to Trees Park Village Service number: 12 (12) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/397 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Skerne Park to Mowden/Harrowgate Hill Service number: 3 (3, 3A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/292 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to Tow Law Service number: 1 (X1, 1) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/380 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Peterlee to Sunderland Service number: X21 (X21) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/219 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to Peterlee Service number: X21 (X21) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/432 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Tow Law to Stanhope Service number: X1 (X1) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/396 Cancelled ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to Tow Law Service number: X1 (X1) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/200 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Middlesbrough to Darlington Service number: X66 (X66, X67, 66) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/273 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to West Park Service number: 19 (19) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/209 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to Firth Moor Service number: 13A (13A, 13B) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/205 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to Ferryhill Service number: 8 (8, 8A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/290 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to Durham Service number: 7 (7) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/211 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to Bishop Auckland Service number: 5 (5A, 5) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/203 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Darlington to Minors Crescent Service number: 4 (4) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 PB0002717/201 Registered ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD Route: Red Hall to Branksom Service number: 2 (2) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 17 Feb 2019 RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 04 Jan 2019 (03 Jan 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael PB0002717/316 Registered Revised Route and Timetable: 5/5a/805/X5 (Option 1 of the Consultation reportedly - 5a cut back to Guisborough, 5 via Skelton Hollybush and reinstated peak time express X5) 28/28a 3/3a/3b 29 (note no mention of the 29a) 12 1/X1 (X1 registration merged into the 1 registration) The rest are revised timetables. RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Adrian - 12 Jan 2019 (21 Dec 2018, 7:49 pm)Michael PB0002717/256 Registered Service 56 Durham to Bishop Auckland • Some minor retiming of up to 5 minutes on some journeys. • Outbound journeys from Durham to operate via Hallgarth St rather than Church St in a further attempt to address punctuality concerns. Service 57/57A Durham to Kelloe/Hartlepool • Some minor retiming of up to 5 minutes on some journeys. • Outbound journeys from Durham to operate via Hallgarth St rather than Church St in a further attempt to address punctuality concerns. Service X12 Durham to Middlesbrough • Outbound journeys from Durham to operate via Hallgarth St rather than Church St in a further attempt to address punctuality concerns. So there'll be no stop between the Three Tuns stop on the Old Elvet/New Elvet junction and Maiden Castle on all 56/57/57A/X12 outbound journeys, as there isn't a stop on Hallgarth Street. The 6 will continue to serve Church Street and South Road, but there'll not be a bus observing the Palatine Centre (Science Site) anymore on outbound trips. RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - S830OFT - 13 Jan 2019 (12 Jan 2019, 11:21 pm)Adrian Service 56 Durham to Bishop Auckland So will the outbound departures follow the 58 route out of Durham? RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 13 Jan 2019 (13 Jan 2019, 12:14 am)S830OFT So will the outbound departures follow the 58 route out of Durham? No, as he said, the Arriva services will operate via Hallgarth St. Service 58 goes though Winney Hill. RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - TyneWearTeesGNE - 13 Jan 2019 What website was this on? RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Adrian - 13 Jan 2019 (13 Jan 2019, 7:46 am)TyneWearTeesGNE What website was this on? It isn't yet, but that is the information they've provided to external stakeholders. Also from the 17th Feb: Service 6 Durham to Cockfield • Minor timetable changes with no level of service issues. • Early journey from Barnard Castle to run up to 16 minutes earlier. Service 7 Darlington to Durham • Revised evening and Sunday timetable allowing standardised evening and Sunday departure times, plus increase layover in Durham to aid punctuality. • Afternoon journeys will no longer serve Framwellgate Moor for New College owing to increasing punctuality issues. Journeys can continue to be made by changing at Durham North Rd/Bus Station. RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Jimmi - 13 Jan 2019 (13 Jan 2019, 11:43 am)Adrian It isn't yet, but that is the information they've provided to external stakeholders. Hoping that means some of the other Darlington services will also have issues with punctuality in the afternoon resolved as it's been rather dire for a while now, just no longer possible to get from Darlington Town Centre to Harrowgate Hill in 12 minutes on a afternoon anymore (17 minutes late afternoon) Would imagine similar changes would be implemented to the 5A on evenings and Sundays as the frequency combines with the 7 between Darlington and Newton Aycliffe. Only the first afternoon Framwellgate Moor trip really picked anybody up from my experiences anyway and odd Fram - Durham passenger. Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - 2bagstew - 13 Jan 2019 (13 Jan 2019, 11:43 am)Adrian It isn't yet, but that is the information they've provided to external stakeholders. Arriva X21 & Arriva X22 Have you got any info on what the changes will be on these 2 services. Sent from my iPhone 8+ using Tapatalk |