(05 Oct 2014, 12:10 pm)Kuyoyo wrote I know some, but there's only a few that can truely be revealed:

As you might be able to tell from the starting dates, service 58 and 61 will be reintroduced on evenings and Sundays on an hourly bases. As such, evening and Sunday 59s will no longer operate round Hardwick and instead will terminate at North Tees Hospital. An interworking pattern of 59/61/58 is planned - not as good as the old 'Magic Roundabout' evening pattern of years gone by but still. Although the 13 is also listed as the change starting on the Sunday (30th November), not sure yet whether that is also operating evenings/Sundays.

(05 Oct 2014, 12:24 pm)Michael wrote Thats good that they're reintroducing a evening service, not from the area but do u think they will be used well?

(03 Oct 2014, 5:56 pm)Michael wrote Anyone have any idea on the Stockton/Boro changes in December?

(13 Oct 2014, 8:10 pm)benambro wrote Sounds very good, the 34 should benefit to every 20 minutes, it gives extra buses from Billingham to Middlesbrough as well as another bus an hour from Billingham stops to its town. The changes it should stop the 36/37/38 being late causing two buses to always come, reducing the queues and hopefully stopping pusher iners. Not too sure about the service 10, it may do well considering its connecting a big part of Middlesbrough to the hospital and if its quicker than the 12 thats always a bonus - hate going round hemo'. I know its super early but I wonder if the 10/11/12/13/14 will be next routes to get new buses? (I doubt I'll be lucky enough for it to be the 52)

(09 Oct 2014, 3:48 pm)AXG675 wrote No idea - the 61 might do well considering the main idea behind the evening/Sunday service (along with a few other changes) is to take on Leven Valley. Likely to improve the number of Megarider sales along the 61 route.

On behalf of LVC Ltd can I say that I can see a great deal of common sense behind the December Stagecoach changes. I do not subscribe to the 'take on Leven Valley' approach. The appearance of more Leven services in the Stockton area was largely driven by attempting to keep options open for areas that could have been left 'busless'.

Our approach has largely been successful and though some changes will be inevitable Leven's approach has never been to undermine or 'cherry pick' the excellent efforts of Arriva and Stagecoach. We see ourselves as Public Transport SERVANTS rather than utterly commercial and try, not always successfully, to enhance rather than to conflict in provision of services in Cleveland.

Obviously additional services may detract from numbers using  Leven's routes and affect viability. That is part of life in public transport. I have dealt with that reasonably well over almost thirty years and though I am taking less and less daily control of matters plans are afoot on both vehicle and service fronts to continue, hopefully, enhancing public transport alongside (and occasionally underfoot) the two excellent major operators.

It is vital in this divisive and combative world to expect the best and try to keep a sense of good humour on the rare occasions that it does not happen.

Paul Thompson.

(16 Oct 2014, 4:00 pm)Cock Robin wrote The author of that post has a habit of jumping to conclusions!

(31 Oct 2014, 3:53 pm)Michael wrote Tad late but:

PB0001987/97 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough Bus Station and Middlesbrough Bus Station given service number 10A/11A effective from 30-Nov-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

Also:

http://www.stagecoachbus.com/uploads/teesside_bus_map_web.pdf - new map has now being re-uploaded 

(31 Oct 2014, 5:38 pm)Cock Robin wrote What's changing apart from the route numbers?

(31 Oct 2014, 5:39 pm)Michael wrote I'm not sure, i'm not from the area, the best person to answer that would be Kuyoyo. 

(31 Oct 2014, 6:56 pm)tyresmoke wrote As far as I can tell there are no route changes, apart from maybe withdrawing the run around Eagle Park estate?

(31 Oct 2014, 8:34 pm)Kuyoyo wrote From the looks of the re-uploaded map, the 10A will operates out via Albert Road and Borough Road to Marton Road rather than via Corporation Road and Cineworld.

(05 Nov 2014, 3:57 pm)Jimmi wrote PB0001987/17 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middlesbrough Bus Station and Acklam Baldoon Sands given service number 14 effective from 01-Dec-2014. To amend Timetable.