(15 Jun 2024, 2:22 pm)Economic505 wrote So , a good stable link established with SNE working it, will be shattered with the cowboys of GNE.

(15 Jun 2024, 2:29 pm)54APhotography wrote If true Nexus are seriously remiss, they already know the 317 is a disaster..

(15 Jun 2024, 6:34 pm)Thomas12 wrote It is true. Haven't you learnt by now that Nexus give the contract to the cheapest bidder?

(15 Jun 2024, 6:40 pm)54APhotography wrote Lowest bidder = Shite service. NEXUS are fielding scores of complaints about the 317, that's from their own PR team. Unfortunately they are typical of any modern company, one arm doesn't know what the other is doing.

(15 Jun 2024, 6:40 pm)54APhotography wrote Lowest bidder = Shite service. NEXUS are fielding scores of complaints about the 317, that's from their own PR team. Unfortunately they are typical of any modern company, one arm doesn't know what the other is doing.

(15 Jun 2024, 7:25 pm)Storx wrote There's a legal obligation to accept the lowest bid, they can't just pick and choose, it's how tendering works. Right or wrong.

If I was Stagecoach I'd be binning it too, it's not worth the hassle for Saturdays and Sundays for the next 8 months or whatever it is. Be interesting to know if they bid - at all. Looking at tracking today it appears they've outright refused to run anything through the tunnel at all, for most the day.

(15 Jun 2024, 7:47 pm)Dan wrote I’m inclined to suggest they likely did bid, but at a price which reflected the utter travesty that the Tyne Tunnel has become on weekends, and the increased man management associated with the contract.

I think we will find Nexus have preempted problems on weekends and the timetable will reflect that, but I do still worry about potential reliability issues on the 9 (as it wasn’t great last time it ran to North Shields!)


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(15 Jun 2024, 8:05 pm)Storx wrote I don't blame them, if I had to be honest. I'd do the same, the extra money wouldn't be worth it to damage the rest of the route. Can't see people in Whiteleas etc coming out and being accepting that it's the reason their bus is 20 minutes late.

Mind, on paper, the 9 is the best route to go through there imo. It might aswell run Jarrow to North Shields over the 10/11 extension because it runs on a complete dog leg, anyone sane would use the ferry instead and there's nothing inbetween that you can really argue that someone would actually want to go to/from North Shields for as there's nothing else at the North side of the water. Even people in North Shields don't want to go to North Shields.

(15 Jun 2024, 2:29 pm)54APhotography wrote If true Nexus are seriously remiss, they already know the 317 is a disaster..

(15 Jun 2024, 7:25 pm)Storx wrote There's a legal obligation to accept the lowest bid, they can't just pick and choose, it's how tendering works. Right or wrong.

If I was Stagecoach I'd be binning it too, it's not worth the hassle for Saturdays and Sundays for the next 8 months or whatever it is. Be interesting to know if they bid - at all. Looking at tracking today it appears they've outright refused to run anything through the tunnel at all, for most the day.

(Yesterday, 8:31 am)busmanT wrote The 317 timetable, designed and specified by Nexus, must be one of the few in an urban area in the whole of the country that has the same running time Mon-Fri peak and interpeak, and the same layover time peak and interpeak, with no allowance for increased traffic levels at peak times.
And with minimal recovery time at Whitley Bay (which includes having to go round the block).

(3 hours ago)Lewispark1509 wrote The 317 timetable was actually drafted by Stagecoach, as when they had the 317, the section between Royal Quay's and George Stephenson Way was operated commercially, which is why they swapped around with the 19's when it first was introduced. Which is probably why Go North East can't run is properly, as Stagecoach has a thing for tight timetables. According to drivers, the guy who does timetables at Stagecoach doesn't even have a bus licence, and has only been driving a car for just over a year.

(3 hours ago)Lewispark1509 wrote The 317 timetable was actually drafted by Stagecoach, as when they had the 317, the section between Royal Quay's and George Stephenson Way was operated commercially, which is why they swapped around with the 19's when it first was introduced. Which is probably why Go North East can't run is properly, as Stagecoach has a thing for tight timetables. According to drivers, the guy who does timetables at Stagecoach doesn't even have a bus licence, and has only been driving a car for just over a year.

(Yesterday, 1:17 pm)Thomas12 wrote Looked like they are running a separate service between Jarrow and North Shields split from the Jarrow to South Shields section.

(3 hours ago)Lewispark1509 wrote The 317 timetable was actually drafted by Stagecoach, as when they had the 317, the section between Royal Quay's and George Stephenson Way was operated commercially, which is why they swapped around with the 19's when it first was introduced. Which is probably why Go North East can't run is properly, as Stagecoach has a thing for tight timetables. According to drivers, the guy who does timetables at Stagecoach doesn't even have a bus licence, and has only been driving a car for just over a year.