Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes

[Storx]

If you've got an early or late flight then yes, you'll be using a taxi. But I always use public transport to get to the airport when it's an option, and I know loads of others who do. Especially if fares remain cheap on the bus, it can be a far better option than a taxi.

I know a couple of people who have to get to Kirkley daily and really struggle with the journey. This will be a lifeline for them and give them far better flexibility in their travel. As others have pointed out, Ponteland to Kingston Park or Morpeth also have real potential. 

It's not guaranteed to work after funding runs out, but I honestly think it will work a lot better than you think.

Personally I think it'll be dead most the time. Unless the workers, use the service then it won't have anyone on. If travelling from Morpeth it'll be much easier and just as quick to catch the X14/X15/X18 to the Regent Centre and change to the Metro which are both at least every 15 minutes.

Not to mention there's probably about 4 people max every day travelling from Morpeth to the airport daily anyway, anyone else will definitely do the above rather than changing for an hourly service.

Now if it was bolted onto the end of a 35 so you had an Newbiggin to Airport service then things might change a bit, as you'd link the two Northumberland College campuses together and additionally serve Abbey Meadows and Woodhill Drive (why it doesn't anyway I don't know - it's literally the same time). Then there's more links being opened up.

[L469 YVK]

Just thought I'd mention this in response to the discussions a few weeks back. Was a comment made on FB about the Chronicle's story and a trip report on the X18.

"Four hour Ariva bus journey? Was it the x21 from the white elephant to town?"

Bearing in mind this comment had 19 reactions.

Clearly the passengers know that time and extra stops (Red House Farm & Nedderton) have been added onto the route since the old X21 and X31/X32 that went direct via Hartford Road.

However, it would be understandable that going back to the pre 2012 stopping arrangements would be unfeasible for the X22. So with that in mind plus the need to speed up the X21 (with added time)........

X21
- Every 30 minutes
- Via Hartford Road instead of Ridge Terrace and Nedderton Village

X22
- Every 30 minutes
- No route change

42
- Every 30 minutes
- Bedlington Town Centre clockwise loop - Hazelmere Estate (Alnwick Drive) - Nedderton Village - A192 - A1068 - B1318 then as per 43 to Newcastle

43
- Every 30 minutes (only Dudley and Northern Terrace would have reduced service)
- No route change

Something would also need worked out for the 35 as that would need a higher frequency especially Monday to Friday.

[XQ Zero]

Is anyone else having problems with the Arrivabus website? When I try to find any service in the timetable section it insists there are no options. It has been doing this for about a week. The download timetables section only gives current timetables and not any for the week commencing 7th January 2024 which is what I am looking for.

[Kuyoyo]

Changes to Teesside services 15 and 17/17A and introducing NEW services 16 and 17B from 24th January 2024

https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...wmPZAzy2mo

[lloyd647]

I start at Ashington depot this week already have my PCV licence does anyone know what the current rotas/rota are like. Will I be able to get on the X18/X15/X14/X16 rota.

[solsburian]

With all of these service improvements and new services, can we expect any additions/cascades to the fleet?

[Storx]

I start at Ashington depot this week already have my PCV licence does anyone know what the current rotas/rota are like. Will I be able to get on the X18/X15/X14/X16 rota.

Unless things have changed, I believe new starters are on the 57/57A/434 boards but that might've changed with the shortage problems.

[Jimmi]

From 7th January 2024, there will be minor changes to Service 24 Hartlepool to Durham and Service 6 Durham to Cockfield.

Service 24 [emoji117] The current 2100 Monday to Friday journey from Hartlepool will depart at 2055 and run 5 minutes earlier throughout, following customer feedback.

Service 6 [emoji117] 1657, 1717 and 1742 Monday to Friday journeys from Durham will run 3 minutes later from South Road Colleges onwards following a punctuality review.

[peter]

From 7th January 2024, there will be minor changes to Service 24 Hartlepool to Durham and Service 6 Durham to Cockfield.

Service 24 [emoji117] The current 2100 Monday to Friday journey from Hartlepool will depart at 2055 and run 5 minutes earlier throughout, following customer feedback.

Service 6 [emoji117] 1657, 1717 and 1742 Monday to Friday journeys from Durham will run 3 minutes later from South Road Colleges onwards following a punctuality review.

Seemingly in coordination with the opening of the new bus station: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...nuary-2024

[tyresmoke]

With all of these service improvements and new services, can we expect any additions/cascades to the fleet?

I doubt it, PVR works out to be one less than it is now at Stockton.


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[mb134]

There is a timetable, and route, variation for the 306/308 from 24th March. Wild theories incoming...

There are also timetable changes to:
43, 44, 45, X7, X8, X21, X22.

[Storx]

There is a timetable, and route, variation for the 306/308 from 24th March. Wild theories incoming...

There are also timetable changes to:
43, 44, 45, X7, X8, X21, X22.

Not surprised to see the X7 and X8 on there, the timetable is an absolute shambles still around this time pretty much every night, especially Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

I know it'll remove the new bus stops near Miller and Carter but they really need to pull them off the A189 / Killingworth Way and avoid Sandy Lane Roundabouts. It's much quicker to go via Killingworth nowadays and demand changes for them to re serve it (ie. bus gate off Great Lime Road).

No doubt they'll change the times by 2 minutes or something again which won't do the bot of difference.

[Aaron21]

There is a timetable, and route, variation for the 306/308 from 24th March. Wild theories incoming...

There are also timetable changes to:
43, 44, 45, X7, X8, X21, X22.

306 route change will be to do with Tynemouth as they seem to be making Sea Banks Road near the priory Castle a 1 way system (towards Whitley Bay) so possibly just sending the 306 up Percy Park Road

[Shrek]

Not surprised to see the X7 and X8 on there, the timetable is an absolute shambles still around this time pretty much every night, especially Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

I know it'll remove the new bus stops near Miller and Carter but they really need to pull them off the A189 / Killingworth Way and avoid Sandy Lane Roundabouts. It's much quicker to go via Killingworth nowadays and demand changes for them to re serve it (ie. bus gate off Great Lime Road).

No doubt they'll change the times by 2 minutes or something again which won't do the bot of difference.

Do Arriva get money from the developers of those new estates around Sandy Lane at the moment? I can't be 100% sure, but I think I read something about funding for public transport links being part of their planning approval?

[Storx]

Do Arriva get money from the developers of those new estates around Sandy Lane at the moment? I can't be 100% sure, but I think I read something about funding for public transport links being part of their planning approval?

Not too sure, I'd doubt it though as the bus ran that way anyway. I'd guess the money went towards the bus stops and the 'improvements'  at Sandy Lane Roundabout.

In fact, I'm quite sure, they did as North Tyneside has bizarrely being trying to duck all responisibility for the thing since before it was even build quoting, 'it was part of the planning for the homes.'

https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/category...roundabout - Kept it up with that aswell as even they know it's a complete 'f' up to put it blunt.

[mb134]

306 route change will be to do with Tynemouth as they seem to be making Sea Banks Road near the priory Castle a 1 way system (towards Whitley Bay) so possibly just sending the 306 up Percy Park Road

You mean they won't be aligning with any of the hundreds of Coast Road suggestions on here? Shocked.

[Aaron21]

You mean they won't be aligning with any of the hundreds of Coast Road suggestions on here? Shocked.

Yea I heard from my mates dog who drives the X39 that there making that new X39 that was mentioned the other day. There withdrawn the 306/7/8/9 just make the X39

[V514DFT]

When the X7/X8 was the X4/X5, even the 363/364, they always went via Station Road/Northumbrian Way and through Westmoor that way, i understand the rerouting as it was covered by the 52/53/54 (in parts), but now an arguement could be made to send them back that way again now that Arriva no longer run those services

[Storx]

When the X7/X8 was the X4/X5, even the 363/364, they always went via Station Road/Northumbrian Way and through Westmoor that way, i understand the rerouting as it was covered by the 52/53/54 (in parts), but now an arguement could be made to send them back that way again now that Arriva no longer run those services

Only the 363/364 done that route, the X24/X25 went direct from Annitsford straight to South Gosforth pretty much. I believe they changed it though as it was quicker the route it goes now - used to be traffic problems in West Moor aswell. It was only after 2016 or so when they pissed about with Sandy Lane which now backs onto the roundabout when it got worse, which miraculously they've made even worse with the traffic lights.

I believe the 52/54 were formed when they went with the absolute crackjack idea of sending the X4/X5 via Gosforth and the Freeman respectively which went down like a lead balloon. I must admit, I never really returned since and always go for a bus or lift to the Metro and in that way instead as it's just as quick. Horrific decision and one they were pretty much forced to do.

The 52 was the 340/342, the 53 - 343/344 and the 54 - 356 before all the pissing about though, guessing you know that though.

[solsburian]

Only the 363/364 done that route, the X24/X25 went direct from Annitsford straight to South Gosforth pretty much. I believe they changed it though as it was quicker the route it goes now - used to be traffic problems in West Moor aswell. It was only after 2016 or so when they pissed about with Sandy Lane which now backs onto the roundabout when it got worse, which miraculously they've made even worse with the traffic lights.

I believe the 52/54 were formed when they went with the absolute crackjack idea of sending the X4/X5 via Gosforth and the Freeman respectively which went down like a lead balloon. I must admit, I never really returned since and always go for a bus or lift to the Metro and in that way instead as it's just as quick. Horrific decision and one they were pretty much forced to do.

The 52 was the 340/342, the 53 - 343/344 and the 54 - 356 before all the pissing about though, guessing you know that though.

Unfortunately West Moor also gets choked during the peaks too. The whole thing is a mess.