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Hartlepool Tall Ships 2023 Park and Ride

 
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17 Apr 2023, 6:28 am
#21
(16 Apr 2023, 8:08 am)tyresmoke It was more that they were the only bidder. I know Coatham bidded on the 1/2 and the 101 as I worked on the tenders…


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Ah, I get what you meant now.
RobinHood
17 Apr 2023, 6:28 am #21

(16 Apr 2023, 8:08 am)tyresmoke It was more that they were the only bidder. I know Coatham bidded on the 1/2 and the 101 as I worked on the tenders…


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Ah, I get what you meant now.

510
17 Apr 2023, 6:26 pm
#22
Just to clarify what happened last time Hartlepool had the tall ships they was three park and ride sites at Greatham, Tofts Farm industrial Estate and Hart Village.

Classic operated the Greatham site, Garnetts Coaches operated the Tofts Farm site and and Arriva operated the Hart Village site.

The drop off points was the interchange from Garnetts , Greenbank and Middleton Road for Arriva, and Gateway Bridge for Classic.

Richardsons also did a shuttle between Hartlepool Centre and the Headland.
col87
17 Apr 2023, 6:26 pm #22

Just to clarify what happened last time Hartlepool had the tall ships they was three park and ride sites at Greatham, Tofts Farm industrial Estate and Hart Village.

Classic operated the Greatham site, Garnetts Coaches operated the Tofts Farm site and and Arriva operated the Hart Village site.

The drop off points was the interchange from Garnetts , Greenbank and Middleton Road for Arriva, and Gateway Bridge for Classic.

Richardsons also did a shuttle between Hartlepool Centre and the Headland.

219
10 May 2023, 8:53 am
#23
Has there been any updates to who has the tall ships Park & ride
Busu284
10 May 2023, 8:53 am #23

Has there been any updates to who has the tall ships Park & ride

14 Jun 2023, 10:40 pm
#24
(10 May 2023, 8:53 am)Busu284 Has there been any updates to who has the tall ships Park & ride

Go North East has the Park and Ride.
garrymc05
14 Jun 2023, 10:40 pm #24

(10 May 2023, 8:53 am)Busu284 Has there been any updates to who has the tall ships Park & ride

Go North East has the Park and Ride.

14 Jun 2023, 11:21 pm
#25
(14 Jun 2023, 10:40 pm)garrymc05 Go North East has the Park and Ride.

£10 a day parking fee should help ensure that it's not too well used.  Complete rip off.
stagecoachbusdepot
14 Jun 2023, 11:21 pm #25

(14 Jun 2023, 10:40 pm)garrymc05 Go North East has the Park and Ride.

£10 a day parking fee should help ensure that it's not too well used.  Complete rip off.

26 Jun 2023, 9:20 am
#26
(14 Jun 2023, 11:21 pm)stagecoachbusdepot £10 a day parking fee should help ensure that it's not too well used.  Complete rip off.

If you're travelling and visiting alone, then yes. If you're taking the family or going with friends, then it's not too bad divided between 3 or 4.

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26 Jun 2023, 9:20 am #26

(14 Jun 2023, 11:21 pm)stagecoachbusdepot £10 a day parking fee should help ensure that it's not too well used.  Complete rip off.

If you're travelling and visiting alone, then yes. If you're taking the family or going with friends, then it's not too bad divided between 3 or 4.


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26 Jun 2023, 1:31 pm
#27
(26 Jun 2023, 9:20 am)Adrian If you're travelling and visiting alone, then yes. If you're taking the family or going with friends, then it's not too bad divided between 3 or 4.

Yes agreed though still seems at the upper end of what tends to get charged for P&R (up here at least), and still not great for those visiting alone/even couple.  Can't remember what it cost when it was in Sunderland a few years ago.

Anyone heard anything about which deckers GNE will be using on it yet?  Ex London stock?  And will the buses be stationed down there somewhere for the four days?
stagecoachbusdepot
26 Jun 2023, 1:31 pm #27

(26 Jun 2023, 9:20 am)Adrian If you're travelling and visiting alone, then yes. If you're taking the family or going with friends, then it's not too bad divided between 3 or 4.

Yes agreed though still seems at the upper end of what tends to get charged for P&R (up here at least), and still not great for those visiting alone/even couple.  Can't remember what it cost when it was in Sunderland a few years ago.

Anyone heard anything about which deckers GNE will be using on it yet?  Ex London stock?  And will the buses be stationed down there somewhere for the four days?

26 Jun 2023, 6:40 pm
#28
Wouldn't be surprised if the buses are parked up at the Steelworks Park and Ride in Hartlepool.

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26 Jun 2023, 6:40 pm #28

Wouldn't be surprised if the buses are parked up at the Steelworks Park and Ride in Hartlepool.


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27 Jun 2023, 2:54 pm
#29
(26 Jun 2023, 1:31 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Anyone heard anything about which deckers GNE will be using on it yet?  Ex London stock?  And will the buses be stationed down there somewhere for the four days?

The deckers will be based out of Sunderland depot at Deptford.
BFK
27 Jun 2023, 2:54 pm #29

(26 Jun 2023, 1:31 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Anyone heard anything about which deckers GNE will be using on it yet?  Ex London stock?  And will the buses be stationed down there somewhere for the four days?

The deckers will be based out of Sunderland depot at Deptford.

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27 Jun 2023, 3:56 pm
#30
Where do the shuttles go from fo they go from boro and billy and norton and stuff
Lollist
27 Jun 2023, 3:56 pm #30

Where do the shuttles go from fo they go from boro and billy and norton and stuff

3573
27 Jun 2023, 9:23 pm
#31
Shouldn't this be moved to GNE area. also the advertisment for it just say multiple buses an hour, but that could be every 30 mins, pretty crap considering the amount of parents and elderly going which may need the buggy bays.

Would be a nice for a proper timetable
Unber43
27 Jun 2023, 9:23 pm #31

Shouldn't this be moved to GNE area. also the advertisment for it just say multiple buses an hour, but that could be every 30 mins, pretty crap considering the amount of parents and elderly going which may need the buggy bays.

Would be a nice for a proper timetable

27 Jun 2023, 10:15 pm
#32
(27 Jun 2023, 9:23 pm)Unber43 Shouldn't this be moved to GNE area. also the advertisment for it just say multiple buses an hour, but that could be every 30 mins, pretty crap considering the amount of parents and elderly going which may need the buggy bays.

Would be a nice for a proper timetable
Hey, Just to clarify, what should be moved to a GNE area?
Economic505
27 Jun 2023, 10:15 pm #32

(27 Jun 2023, 9:23 pm)Unber43 Shouldn't this be moved to GNE area. also the advertisment for it just say multiple buses an hour, but that could be every 30 mins, pretty crap considering the amount of parents and elderly going which may need the buggy bays.

Would be a nice for a proper timetable
Hey, Just to clarify, what should be moved to a GNE area?

3573
28 Jun 2023, 10:15 am
#33
(27 Jun 2023, 10:15 pm)Economic505 Hey, Just to clarify, what should be moved to a GNE area?

This thread, hasn't GNE won the contract?
Unber43
28 Jun 2023, 10:15 am #33

(27 Jun 2023, 10:15 pm)Economic505 Hey, Just to clarify, what should be moved to a GNE area?

This thread, hasn't GNE won the contract?

28 Jun 2023, 12:19 pm
#34
(28 Jun 2023, 10:15 am)Unber43 This thread, hasn't GNE won the contract?

It looks like there's multiple operators involved in the event, so I'm going to move it to the 'Bus Events' section as a best fit.

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28 Jun 2023, 12:19 pm #34

(28 Jun 2023, 10:15 am)Unber43 This thread, hasn't GNE won the contract?

It looks like there's multiple operators involved in the event, so I'm going to move it to the 'Bus Events' section as a best fit.


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29 Jun 2023, 8:04 pm
#35
(28 Jun 2023, 12:19 pm)Adrian It looks like there's multiple operators involved in the event, so I'm going to move it to the 'Bus Events' section as a best fit.


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That’ll explain why it says “up to 12 double deckers will be in operation” on this post on Facebook, thought it didn’t look right as there was a lot more than that when Sunderland hosted the Tall Ships in 2018.


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TEN 6083
29 Jun 2023, 8:04 pm #35

(28 Jun 2023, 12:19 pm)Adrian It looks like there's multiple operators involved in the event, so I'm going to move it to the 'Bus Events' section as a best fit.


[Image: 6707b5506d90ef1856accdb06260acbc.jpg]

That’ll explain why it says “up to 12 double deckers will be in operation” on this post on Facebook, thought it didn’t look right as there was a lot more than that when Sunderland hosted the Tall Ships in 2018.


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29 Jun 2023, 9:10 pm
#36
(29 Jun 2023, 8:04 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 6707b5506d90ef1856accdb06260acbc.jpg]

That’ll explain why it says “up to 12 double deckers will be in operation” on this post on Facebook, thought it didn’t look right as there was a lot more than that when Sunderland hosted the Tall Ships in 2018.


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Yer the Sunderland one had 54 buses. 
https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...ast-315191
nova347
29 Jun 2023, 9:10 pm #36

(29 Jun 2023, 8:04 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 6707b5506d90ef1856accdb06260acbc.jpg]

That’ll explain why it says “up to 12 double deckers will be in operation” on this post on Facebook, thought it didn’t look right as there was a lot more than that when Sunderland hosted the Tall Ships in 2018.


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Yer the Sunderland one had 54 buses. 
https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...ast-315191

29 Jun 2023, 9:15 pm
#37
(29 Jun 2023, 8:04 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 6707b5506d90ef1856accdb06260acbc.jpg]

That’ll explain why it says “up to 12 double deckers will be in operation” on this post on Facebook, thought it didn’t look right as there was a lot more than that when Sunderland hosted the Tall Ships in 2018.


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12 does seem very few but I guess it's up to the local council what level of provision they commission.  Not sure how this contract value compares to the Sunderland one for example.  Fair few disgruntled comments from Hartlepool residents that they aren't able to use the P&R if they are in walking distance of a P&R site.  Does seem beyond stupid to force those people to drive to a park & walk site instead!  Notably when people are pointing out teh "great bus services" dont serve the marina there's no response.  This owuld have been a great opportunity to show how public transport can work.  Instead... this.
stagecoachbusdepot
29 Jun 2023, 9:15 pm #37

(29 Jun 2023, 8:04 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 6707b5506d90ef1856accdb06260acbc.jpg]

That’ll explain why it says “up to 12 double deckers will be in operation” on this post on Facebook, thought it didn’t look right as there was a lot more than that when Sunderland hosted the Tall Ships in 2018.


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12 does seem very few but I guess it's up to the local council what level of provision they commission.  Not sure how this contract value compares to the Sunderland one for example.  Fair few disgruntled comments from Hartlepool residents that they aren't able to use the P&R if they are in walking distance of a P&R site.  Does seem beyond stupid to force those people to drive to a park & walk site instead!  Notably when people are pointing out teh "great bus services" dont serve the marina there's no response.  This owuld have been a great opportunity to show how public transport can work.  Instead... this.

29 Jun 2023, 11:55 pm
#38
Someone commented on a friends Facebook post when Arriva did the Park & Rides for the 2010 Tall Ships they had around 90 buses for the event.

If there’s only 12 buses in total there are going to be some very large queues and the buses will be rammed as that would be 3 buses each for 4 Park & Ride sites. If I go I’ll probably park in Asda or the retail park across the road from the marina.


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TEN 6083
29 Jun 2023, 11:55 pm #38

Someone commented on a friends Facebook post when Arriva did the Park & Rides for the 2010 Tall Ships they had around 90 buses for the event.

If there’s only 12 buses in total there are going to be some very large queues and the buses will be rammed as that would be 3 buses each for 4 Park & Ride sites. If I go I’ll probably park in Asda or the retail park across the road from the marina.


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652
30 Jun 2023, 7:23 am
#39
The park and ride in 2010 was widely criticised as underused and a huge loss for the event. It seems the council have gone from feast to famine with his provision this year so hopefully it’s not equally panned as a disaster.

That said, the car parks have been brought in much closer this year, 2010 had Hart & Greatham as car parks - steelworks remains the same. Buses should be able to run to Grayfields and Coronation Drive in half as much time. Not sure where turning is possible on Coronation Drive mind and I’d worry about congestion close to the event if, as above, car drivers are attempting to head as close as ASDA/Anchor Retail park only to find their parking is full and heavily restricted for the event.
James101
30 Jun 2023, 7:23 am #39

The park and ride in 2010 was widely criticised as underused and a huge loss for the event. It seems the council have gone from feast to famine with his provision this year so hopefully it’s not equally panned as a disaster.

That said, the car parks have been brought in much closer this year, 2010 had Hart & Greatham as car parks - steelworks remains the same. Buses should be able to run to Grayfields and Coronation Drive in half as much time. Not sure where turning is possible on Coronation Drive mind and I’d worry about congestion close to the event if, as above, car drivers are attempting to head as close as ASDA/Anchor Retail park only to find their parking is full and heavily restricted for the event.

30 Jun 2023, 10:57 am
#40
12 double decker buses can transport 1000 people, depending on the journey length they can move a hell of a lot of people in quite a short time if it's well organised.
deanmachine
30 Jun 2023, 10:57 am #40

12 double decker buses can transport 1000 people, depending on the journey length they can move a hell of a lot of people in quite a short time if it's well organised.

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